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Location: PA | I just bought a new horse. She comes with papers, but no signed transfer. The current owner listed on the papers is not who I bought her off of. Is there still a way for me to get her transfered to me? Can AQHA help?? |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | If you could get in touch with the old owner listed on the paper that would be your best bet. AQHA will require each, subsequent owner (which could be more than just the lady you bought her from), to transfer to their name(s) and then into yours.
If the old owner is willing to sign transfer papers directly to you that's the easiest (although not AQHA's preferred) method to do it if you get what I mean.
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Location: PA | Ok, that is sort of what I figured. I'll have to see if I can find the current owner listed, and ask if she'd sign a transfer. |
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| Normally, if you can't seem to contact the previous owner on your own, call the AQHA and they will help. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Good luck, it took my cousin a year! So annoying, I don't know why people don't just sign the flipping paperwork! |
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Location: PA | SmokinGirlie - 2017-08-01 2:40 PM Good luck, it took my cousin a year! So annoying, I don't know why people don't just sign the flipping paperwork!
Oh Ugh....im not TOO worried about it. If I can't transfer her, I can't transfer her. I have no plans to breed her or anything. She's a new one for Kaiden.  |
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Location: California | I have known several people to just fill out the transfer with the owner listed and then sign it for them and send it in. Never had an issue, can't see there being one unless the horse was stolen. I never transfer but I do always keep the signed one for potential buyer. |
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Location: North Dakota | I have 4 horses I have in my name-all with transfers and bills of sale etc. I called AQHA and they told me what I had to do and it was done in no time. I've never understood why you wouldn't call them first and see what they say-it's not like this thing doesn't happen every day-an seriously the AQHA wants your money so they aren't going to make things impossible for you! |
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Location: PA | LMS - 2017-08-01 3:18 PM I have 4 horses I have in my name-all with transfers and bills of sale etc. I called AQHA and they told me what I had to do and it was done in no time. I've never understood why you wouldn't call them first and see what they say-it's not like this thing doesn't happen every day-an seriously the AQHA wants your money so they aren't going to make things impossible for you!
I plan on calling AQHA. I do not have her home, or her papers in hand yet, so figured I'd ask on here in case someone had been in the same boat.
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I don't know why but my cousin had to go through the ringer, tracking down previous owners that weren't listed on her papers etc. It was a mess and yes she contacted AQHA right when she got mare to see what to do. Numerous letters had to be mailed to the previous owner that wasn't listed etc. |
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Location: NW. Florida | I would not call AQHA, just call the last name on the papers and get them to sign a transfer. If the name on the papers won't sign a transfer, you just have an unregistered mare. |
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Location: SW New Mexico | BRcwgrl81 - 2017-08-02 1:24 PM
LMS - 2017-08-01 3:18 PM I have 4 horses I have in my name-all with transfers and bills of sale etc. I called AQHA and they told me what I had to do and it was done in no time. I've never understood why you wouldn't call them first and see what they say-it's not like this thing doesn't happen every day-an seriously the AQHA wants your money so they aren't going to make things impossible for you!
I plan on calling AQHA. I do not have her home, or her papers in hand yet, so figured I'd ask on here in case someone had been in the same boat.
I wish it was that easy..
My brother traded for a nice head /heel horse, 18 years old..
The papers were the original AQHA papers, with the breeder listed as owner..
This horse was 18 ,,had numerous owners, never transferred the papers to a current owner. In order for us to update the papers we'd had to find the breeder from 18 years ago, who was deceased.. This horse couldn't be updated. Had to settle for as grade . Ropers are especially bad about trading without signed transfers ...it seems.
This is a pet peeve of mine. Sellers advertising a papered horse, but if there's no transfer from last recorded owner, you're in for a potentially long process ... sleuthing around , trying to track these people down, some of which aren't happy the product of their breeding or training program's paperwork wasn't updated with each owner..
Edited by jettster 2017-08-01 3:26 PM
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Location: Texas | AQHA called me a year or so ago about a horse I'd sold 10 years prior. The person had the papers and no transfer. They sent me a form, I signed it, and they transferred the horse. (They'd asked me who I'd sold the horse to, and I didn't remember the guy's name.) |
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Location: California | LMS - 2017-08-01 12:18 PM I have 4 horses I have in my name-all with transfers and bills of sale etc. I called AQHA and they told me what I had to do and it was done in no time. I've never understood why you wouldn't call them first and see what they say-it's not like this thing doesn't happen every day-an seriously the AQHA wants your money so they aren't going to make things impossible for you! That's interesting to me, it took me almost a year, tons and tons of phone calls, written letters, etc, to get a mare into my name. I had her original papers and bill of sale and they were not good to work with. Had I known it would take that long and I would potentially not get her papers, honestly I would have probably fibbed on a transfer paper. I bought her to be a broodmare, and I'm sorry, without proof of who she is, it drastically cuts down the price on the horse.
Although this is the only hassle I've ever had with AQHA, I wouldn't buy a horse without a signed transfer paper again.
Edited by *almost there* 2017-08-01 4:47 PM
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| There was a thread about this a short time ago. There were a lot of people who never bother to transfer papers. Every horse that I ever bought was transferred into my name and I had the papers back within a week. To get them transferred without a filled out transfer is a major problem. AQHA has specific rules that they strictly adhere to. If the papers are not in order, I move on. |
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Location: PA | I found someoneon Facebook with the same name that used to live in the city/state listed on the papers as the current owner. I think i'll send her a message and see if she'll just sign the transfer for me. I mean...i would do it, if someone asked me too! Not sure why someone wouldn't.....
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Location: North Dakota | huh, sounds like I was lucky when I called in, wish I would have gotten the gals name i spoke with-she was amazing-she asked me who the previous owners were (to my knowledge) if I knew their addresses (which on 1 I did and the other I did not) and she took it from there. What a pain- I would be tempted to call AQHA until I found someone who was decent..... I can see why people would lie on the papers-which is one of my biggest pet peeves because it seems to happen all the time. Hope your issue is resolved easily. |
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| Im not saying you should just sign the persons name and send it in, but Im saying sign the persons name and send it in lol. |
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| scwebster - 2017-08-02 12:57 PM
Im not saying you should just sign the persons name and send it in, but Im saying sign the persons name and send it in lol.
That's a little sketchy. I personally would not care but if that horse was part of a dispute and the previous owner figured it out they might come after someone for forgery. Bad news. |
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Location: North Dakota | It's a pain in the arse but it can be done.
It took 9 months for me to get a horse we bought into my name b/c we didn't have the signed transfer reports. They send letters to everyone they can track down, and literally give them 60 days to respond to the letter. I understand why they do it (to try to minimize STOLEN horses changing hands) but it takes a looooong time.
And found out with my ordeal you actually DO NOT need to send AQHA your bill of sale. They don't even use it. That was a surprise to me because I always send it in.
Edited by r_beau 2017-08-03 10:25 AM
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