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| I have a horse with significant front right foot lameness. Only visible in a circle on hard ground. Went to the vet and it didn't change with nerve blocks in every part of the foot/leg. Shoulder and Elbow are normal after hard flexion. Cervical Verrebrate X-rays are normal. His soreness is bad enough that he refuses his first barrel (right) and is extremely gate sour. Completely at loss of what to do. Vet suggested running him hard until it's very obvious what hurts. I can't bring myself to do that to him especially when he is in enough pain that he refuses barrels. I have gotten 3 different vet's opinions. Any suggestions/prayers is appreciated. |
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| Did the vet use hoof testers on him? Did he x-ray the foot? He could be sore in his frog or heels. I am currently dealing with this, that's why it was my first thought.
How is he shod? Does he have pads on? |
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| Have you checked the suspensory? Be sure to ultrasound as a tear or injury wont show up on an xray.. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Is this the same horse that you had a thread on Standing weird? |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-08-08 10:22 AM
Is this the same horse that you had a thread on Standing weird?
Yes, this was the first time the vet actually found lameness. |
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| RedHead84 - 2017-08-08 10:17 AM
Did the vet use hoof testers on him? Did he x-ray the foot? He could be sore in his frog or heels. I am currently dealing with this, that's why it was my first thought.
How is he shod? Does he have pads on?
She used hoof testers and blocked his heels and feet. She said his feet and shoe job look great. Normal shoes |
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| veintiocho - 2017-08-08 10:17 AM
Have you checked the suspensory? Be sure to ultrasound as a tear or injury wont show up on an xray..
Didn't improve when they nerve blocked that area so she didn't think we needed to ultrasound or X-ray anything |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IowaCanChaser - 2017-08-08 10:34 AM veintiocho - 2017-08-08 10:17 AM Have you checked the suspensory? Be sure to ultrasound as a tear or injury wont show up on an xray.. Didn't improve when they nerve blocked that area so she didn't think we needed to ultrasound or X-ray anything
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2017-08-08 10:51 AM
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| Southtxponygirl - 2017-08-08 10:48 AM
IowaCanChaser - 2017-08-08 10:34 AM veintiocho - 2017-08-08 10:17 AM Have you checked the suspensory? Be sure to ultrasound as a tear or injury wont show up on an xray.. Didn't improve when they nerve blocked that area so she didn't think we needed to ultrasound or X-ray anything
^^^THIS. Get the x-rays. Even though his right seems to be the problem, get both fronts done. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | We know a young lady that had her horse to several vets for lameness with no answers. This went on over a period of time and every time he appeared to be getting better, he would come up lame again. Turns out the horse had Lyme disease. Got the horse proper treatment and he is back to winning again. I know it was a long and frustrating process for the family. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | I also second x-ray both front feet - possible founder or navicular. |
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| I had a gelding like that, and he did great when the vet did the blocks. The vet told me he thought it was a high suspensory injury, probably near/at the knee. |
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Location: Texas | Can you go into further detail about the nerve blocks the vet did- how many, where and what the response was? I know you said the foot and leg was blocked and no response but there's a lot of places that can be blocked and I just want to be thorough.
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Location: OH. IO | Get x-rays on feet.in the long run it will save you money and it's a good idea to have Base line x-rays anyways. I can't believe three or four vets now have not done them! At this point you should INSIST THAT THEY DO!!! THEN GO FROM THERE.GOOD LUCK AND KEEP US POSTED;) |
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| My last gelding was the type to always go in and run a pattern - it might be ugly but we'd make 3 circles around 3 barrels.
One night at a rodeo we got behind #2 and he took off straight back to the timer line like something bit him on the a**. Totally not like him at all. Made a vet appt the next day.
Trotting circle on concrete, very obviously lame.
His angles didn't look bad from the outside but a hoofpick in between the bulbs of his heels on one side revealed extreme soreness. X-rays revealed his toes were far too long and heels too low for what was actually going on inside of the hoof. He was stressing his suspensory and I'm glad I took him to the vet instead of just training on him, easily could have torn it.
Shoed him to the X-rays, problem solved.
I would defiantly look at that more and xray the feet, ultrasound the lower leg and fetlock.
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| Any vet that recommends riding a lame horse instead of a referral. . . .
Find a better lameness vet. And for your horse's sake, sooner rather than later. |
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| Collateral ligament tear, my horse was lame only in a circle to the left, nerve blocks did not improve the lameness (common with collateral ligament tears), we x rayed, injected coffin joints, special shoeing...we did it all. Finally the vet did an ultrasound on her medial collateral ligament (we did leverage testing to determine if it was the medial or lateral collateral ligament that was bothering her) and we saw the tear. We were lucky to see it on ultrasound because sometimes it is to deep and can only be seen with MRI. Treatment was a denoix collateral ligament shoe, shockwave therapy and time off. She had about a year off total. This could be your problem, or not but just like to throw this out there is weird lameness cases because it is an under diagnosed/misdiagnosed problem a lot because it can be hard to diagnose without MRI. |
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| Love2runbarrels - 2017-08-09 3:58 PM
Collateral ligament tear, my horse was lame only in a circle to the left, nerve blocks did not improve the lameness (common with collateral ligament tears), we x rayed, injected coffin joints, special shoeing...we did it all. Finally the vet did an ultrasound on her medial collateral ligament (we did leverage testing to determine if it was the medial or lateral collateral ligament that was bothering her) and we saw the tear. We were lucky to see it on ultrasound because sometimes it is to deep and can only be seen with MRI. Treatment was a denoix collateral ligament shoe, shockwave therapy and time off. She had about a year off total. This could be your problem, or not but just like to throw this out there is weird lameness cases because it is an under diagnosed/misdiagnosed problem a lot because it can be hard to diagnose without MRI.
Is this in the stifle? And did it show up in the exam as front or hunt leg lameness? |
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Location: North Dakota | IowaCanChaser - 2017-08-08 10:34 AM veintiocho - 2017-08-08 10:17 AM Have you checked the suspensory? Be sure to ultrasound as a tear or injury wont show up on an xray.. Didn't improve when they nerve blocked that area so she didn't think we needed to ultrasound or X-ray anything
So you've got a lame horse that the vet can't find what's wrong but she won't even do basic x-rays or ultrasound???
I would absolutely do those two things. Sure, might come back normal, but that's 2 more things you can rule off your list.
I just can't fathom not doing those things, andthen she suggest to ride him hard when he's already giving you problems. That's a sure-fire way to sour a barrel horse.  (glad you are not taking her advice on that)
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Location: Texas | hannahbug - 2017-08-09 8:13 AM Any vet that recommends riding a lame horse instead of a referral. . . . Find a better lameness vet. And for your horse's sake, sooner rather than later.
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