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| Help??? Any information or opinions help.
I currently have my 1D Barrel gelding on 6 pumps of DAC Oil, 1 scoop a day of GastroPLUS, and 1 packet of ForeFront AllStar. However, I wanted to try and find a good all around product from one company.
I want my supplements to promote skin care, prevent against ulcers, and also help joint, digestive, respiratory, and product against inflamination.
A lot of barrel racers I see use Oxy-gen products, and I go recommended to buy the Mag - Max. Which also has some magnesium in it which I wanted to try to see if it would help my gelding not act like so much of a mare about certain things.
However, my vet is really pushing me to try Platinum Preformance CJ and then if we see he needs help in certain areas, we can always add other supplements by PP to the mix.
Both are expensive, but I want to see what would best help my gelding. I know both brands both have good top barrel racers using them, however my vet said for one, the Oxy-gen website and products show no scientific research about anything, and also it's strange how on some of the products, their top ingredients are grain products and forage. So basically feed, and they don't even bother to put in what grain products you're really feeding.
My gelding is already running 1D on his current supplements I have him on. Would it just be best to keep him on what I already have and not switch to anything else?
I would appreciate just experience with these two products and not anything else at the moment!
Edited by ArrowTRanch 2017-08-08 11:17 AM
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | I feed the oxygen XT10, which is the magmax that is coated with turmeric. I could see a difference in my horses in a week. Contact Rosie Bradley, she can explain the science. Both of my 1d horses are also full time ranch horses so I felt like they needed an all around boost. I LOVE the results I have seen. We also feed the mega oil by oxygen. |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | All oxygen products are backed by years of scientific research. The products were developed by a vet. Please call your local rep, or the main number on the website, and someone will be happy to explain all of this. I am a rep in TX, feel free to PM me if you want. MagMax is a great all around product. It covers lungs, joints and ulcer prevention with not only magnesium but also aloe gel which is 80% more absorb-able than aloe juice. It will put a great top line and shine on them also. I used platinum before switching to oxygen and never really saw any results. Vets push it because they carry it and make money off it. Also, if you watch the show Racer's Edge, we had a whole episode about how our products are made and all ingredients are grown by Oxygen so we know exactly what goes into every product. |
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| My vet did say that of course to much of magnesium can obviously cause heart problems and other sorts. Is this product safe enough to not have to worry about adding problems like that?
I have called and talked to a local rep and she was very knowledgeable and is the person that I ordered the mag-max I have currently from.
I just want to make sure if I'm spending this kind of money I'm getting the most bang for my buck. I guess PP really caught my eye because veterinarians across the country support it, but my regular vet and two others I spoke with didn't hear or know much about Oxy-gen which concerns me if it is so great at helping horses. You think veterinarians would be more keen to recommend something like that.
Edit to fix my wording to make more sense!
Edited by ArrowTRanch 2017-08-08 12:03 PM
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| Have you checked into Exceed 6-Way by MVP?
Exceed is clinically proven and comes recommended by veterinarians. Exceed provides the highest level of support for Joints, Gastric Function, Muscle, Hooves, Skin/Coat, and digestion. The best part it, it comes in ONE pelleted product, therefore you aren't feeding a scoop of this, and a scoop of that.
MVP ingredients are pharmaceutical grade and are certified for potency and purity. You can trust what you are getting exactly what is printed on the label. It also is much more affordable than Platinum Performance.
If interested, send me a PM. I can provide you with a pretty neat introductory offer.
http://www.unitedvetequine.com/horse-joint-supplements/Exceed-6-Way-MVP-horse-joint-supplements.asp |
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| I have looked into Exceed, but doesn't look like it covers respiratory and that is something I need in my supplements as my horse seems to get very minor allergy symptoms in the middle of the summer and hoping to have an added supplement that can go to aid against that as well, both of which PP and Oxy-gen have already in their products.
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Location: Southern Indiana | If you like THE gastro plus, why not go with the muscle mass blend? You can add whatever you need to it. |
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| I used to feed PP and quit riding so I stopped feeding it. I am considering going back to it. Looking back, my horse looked and felt great on it. It didn't make him high, he just looked and felt great.
Just wanted to add that I had a mare cut her tendon in a fence accident, the vet told me she had a 50/50 chance to even survive. I called PP and they told me how much PP to feed her. The vet couldn't believe how well she was healing and wanted to know what I was doing for her. When I told him I was doing what he told me plus feeding PP, he asked for their number, he wanted to check it out. She is ok now for light trail riding now.
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Location: Willows, CA | If you are on the West Coast, or other area where enteroliths are known to occur, you might not want to add a significant magnesium source to the diet. This is the largest single component in enteroliths.
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| TheDutchMan01 - 2017-08-08 1:47 PM If you like THE gastro plus, why not go with the muscle mass blend? You can add whatever you need to it. I completely agree!!! If you want to stick to something that covers all the bases, won't break the bank and have results you can see, I second Total Health Enhancement!!!! All of my guys are on Muscle Mass with the blends. I have used both PP and Oxy-Gen products but it got really expensive! THE all the way!!!!!!
**Also wanted to add... if you send Bob a CBC and Chemistry panel for your horse, they will make you something specific for your horse :)
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| I fed Mag-Max all last season and I've fed Exceed 6-way in the past.
The whole barn is on Platinum Performance. It's the first one that I've seen the "wow" factor in the way my horses look and feel.
We don't feed the CJ, just the regular. Im not a huge believer in the feed through joint supplements but I'm starting my good horse on ActiFlex4000 tonight after some of the reviews given here. As a preventative more than anything - I notice he sometimes has some extra fluid in one front leg. It's cost effective if we see results. |
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| I have tried them all. I read the information about Platinum Performance an decided it would be more cost effective than the multiple supplements that I was feeding. I have been feeding Platinum Performance for about 6 years now. I did feed Platinum CJ to one horse that had some issues and did not realize how much it helped until I quit feeding it He has kissing spines and several bone chips in his knee. Retired him. He is a picky eater and would eat the CJ. |
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| I've already bought mag-max (24lb Pail) so I'm thinking of trying that supplement first. (Unless I can find someone to buy it off me) And if I don't notice anything is changing, I think I'm going to follow my vet and go with PP or try and find out more about THE. Thank you everyone for your replies, it all helps greatly! |
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Location: SW New Mexico | If it ant broke ..don't fix it...
Stay with what works.....
That said, My vet put Brother Dave on Platinum Performance CJ, as he has a few issues with his joints from his hard use at the race track.
He's doing well on it. |
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Location: Arkansas | ArrowTRanch - 2017-08-08 5:18 PM
I've already bought mag-max (24lb Pail) so I'm thinking of trying that supplement first. (Unless I can find someone to buy it off me) And if I don't notice anything is changing, I think I'm going to follow my vet and go with PP or try and find out more about THE. Thank you everyone for your replies, it all helps greatly!
Hope the Mag-Max works for you since you already bought it! I'm a Platinum believer; from our 10 year old to my 38 year old (OLD!) man, our herd looks and feels amazing. Good luck, and I hope you and your gelding continue to do well  |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Chandler's Mom - 2017-08-08 10:50 PM ArrowTRanch - 2017-08-08 5:18 PM I've already bought mag-max (24lb Pail) so I'm thinking of trying that supplement first. (Unless I can find someone to buy it off me) And if I don't notice anything is changing, I think I'm going to follow my vet and go with PP or try and find out more about THE. Thank you everyone for your replies, it all helps greatly! Hope the Mag-Max works for you since you already bought it! I'm a Platinum believer; from our 10 year old to my 38 year old (OLD! ) man, our herd looks and feels amazing. Good luck, and I hope you and your gelding continue to do well
For the horses you don't compete on do you feed 1 scoop or 2 scoops per feeding? Mine is now injured is on 2 scoops, thinking of dropping down to 1 scoop, he's done for the season. |
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Location: Arkansas | Dan (38 year old) and Sonny (recovering from hairline fracture) are on 2 scoops a day and other 3 get 1 a day. What is his injury? |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Not sure yet, he goes for an MRI in a week at Tufts - 4 hour drive! He stumbled at a barrel, vet thinks its the deep digital flexon tendon and refered us out. Had to call my young one up from the minors to finish the season. :) |
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| Mainer-racer - 2017-08-09 1:05 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2017-08-08 10:50 PM ArrowTRanch - 2017-08-08 5:18 PM I've already bought mag-max (24lb Pail) so I'm thinking of trying that supplement first. (Unless I can find someone to buy it off me) And if I don't notice anything is changing, I think I'm going to follow my vet and go with PP or try and find out more about THE. Thank you everyone for your replies, it all helps greatly! Hope the Mag-Max works for you since you already bought it! I'm a Platinum believer; from our 10 year old to my 38 year old (OLD! ) man, our herd looks and feels amazing. Good luck, and I hope you and your gelding continue to do well
We compete on all of ours and they all get 1 scoop a day. They look and feel great and are otherwise healthy and issue free. I usually give my good horse a "healthy scoop" when we are traveling though. |
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