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Location: North Dakota | I do Equimax after the 3rd or 4th hard frost up here in ND. |
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| Only when a fecal says I should. Routine worming contributes to parasite resistance. And when quest plus and equimax stop working, we are in real trouble. |
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Location: TEXAS | hannahbug - 2017-08-23 11:50 AM Only when a fecal says I should. Routine worming contributes to parasite resistance. And when quest plus and equimax stop working, we are in real trouble.
Great answer....hadn't thought of that |
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| hannahbug - 2017-08-23 11:50 AM
Only when a fecal says I should. Routine worming contributes to parasite resistance. And when quest plus and equimax stop working, we are in real trouble.
So how often are you going to run fecals? Its just not a realistic option for those with several horses. |
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Location: North Dakota | Whiteboy - 2017-08-23 1:58 PM
hannahbug - 2017-08-23 11:50 AM
Only when a fecal says I should. Routine worming contributes to parasite resistance. And when quest plus and equimax stop working, we are in real trouble.
So how often are you going to run fecals? Its just not a realistic option for those with several horses.
Fecals only show two kinds of worms.
We deworm twice a year and it works good for us up here in ND. We did fecals for several years after they first became popular and our fecals always came back with almost zero eggs, that doesn't mean they didn't need deworming at least in the fall to take care of bots my vet said. When he told me that I quit the fecals and just stuck to our twice a year. I rotate every spring and Ivermectin based in the late late fall for the bots. |
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Location: Texas | MidWest1452 - 2017-08-23 6:02 PM
Whiteboy - 2017-08-23 1:58 PM
hannahbug - 2017-08-23 11:50 AM
Only when a fecal says I should. Routine worming contributes to parasite resistance. And when quest plus and equimax stop working, we are in real trouble.
So how often are you going to run fecals? Its just not a realistic option for those with several horses.
Fecals only show two kinds of worms.
We deworm twice a year and it works good for us up here in ND. We did fecals for several years after they first became popular and our fecals always came back with almost zero eggs, that doesn't mean they didn't need deworming at least in the fall to take care of bots my vet said. When he told me that I quit the fecals and just stuck to our twice a year. I rotate every spring and Ivermectin based in the late late fall for the bots.
standard fecals show mostly ascarids and strongyles which contribute to the majority of the parasite burden in horses. You can do other tests like fecal sedimentation to look for flukes and tapes. And if you are curious about protozoans (mostly small animal diarrhea) you can do a direct smear which is where you smear a small amount on a slide and then put a coverslip over it or stain it and look for organisms. And if you are curious about pin worms you can do the tape trick and look at that under a scope. But when you order a fecal at a clinic unless the horse is sick a standard fecal float is usually only what is run.
My adult horses that I own we deworm 2-3 times a year, mostly with an ivermectin/praziquantel or moxidectin/praziquantel paste and then once a year with a fenbendazole. The babies get dewormed with fenbendazole until they are big enough.
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Location: Texas | Whiteboy - 2017-08-23 1:58 PM
hannahbug - 2017-08-23 11:50 AM
Only when a fecal says I should. Routine worming contributes to parasite resistance. And when quest plus and equimax stop working, we are in real trouble.
So how often are you going to run fecals? Its just not a realistic option for those with several horses.
It depends on your farm and your management practices. PM me or find me on FB and I can see what would be best for you |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | MidWest1452 - 2017-08-23 5:02 PM Whiteboy - 2017-08-23 1:58 PM hannahbug - 2017-08-23 11:50 AM Only when a fecal says I should. Routine worming contributes to parasite resistance. And when quest plus and equimax stop working, we are in real trouble. So how often are you going to run fecals? Its just not a realistic option for those with several horses. Fecals only show two kinds of worms. We deworm twice a year and it works good for us up here in ND. We did fecals for several years after they first became popular and our fecals always came back with almost zero eggs, that doesn't mean they didn't need deworming at least in the fall to take care of bots my vet said. When he told me that I quit the fecals and just stuck to our twice a year. I rotate every spring and Ivermectin based in the late late fall for the bots.
This is what I do too except for those I am hauling or anything left in the corral. We run a lot of stock through our corrals-cattle and father in law's sheep. So they often need more often. |
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Location: South Georgia | I always go by the Valley Vet deworming rotation chart. |
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| simple and easy to remember and falls into the 60 and 90 day
effectiveness of both wormers .. give a full tube ..
NEW YEARS
QUEST
IVERMECTIN FOR THESE HOLIDAYS
EASTER
MEMORIAL DAY
LABOR DAY
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| The sweet young teacher down the hall from me had her masters in Equine Parasitology. She said the two wormers that horses DID NOT BUILD UP A RESISTANCE to were ivermectin and moxidectin. They are in the same family of wormers. I worm every 90 days with ivermectin. Vet recommends a double dose of ivermectin once a year. It doesn't hurt to worm once a year with Quest, too. Personally, I found that the Valley Vet rotation wormer was not very efficient.
You can call this anything you want....worming, deworming, treating for parasites. Whatever butters your bread. I got it. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | streakysox - 2017-08-24 7:12 PM The sweet young teacher down the hall from me had her masters in Equine Parasitology. She said the two wormers that horses DID NOT BUILD UP A RESISTANCE to were ivermectin and moxidectin. They are in the same family of wormers. I worm every 90 days with ivermectin. Vet recommends a double dose of ivermectin once a year. It doesn't hurt to worm once a year with Quest, too. Personally, I found that the Valley Vet rotation wormer was not very efficient. You can call this anything you want....worming, deworming, treating for parasites. Whatever butters your bread. I got it.
See and here in WY they are noticing a huge resisitance to Ivermectin in cattle and I have been told horses as well. It's all most people use year after year. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2017-08-25 9:13 PM
streakysox - 2017-08-24 7:12 PM The sweet young teacher down the hall from me had her masters in Equine Parasitology. She said the two wormers that horses DID NOT BUILD UP A RESISTANCE to were ivermectin and moxidectin. They are in the same family of wormers. I worm every 90 days with ivermectin. Vet recommends a double dose of ivermectin once a year. It doesn't hurt to worm once a year with Quest, too. Personally, I found that the Valley Vet rotation wormer was not very efficient. You can call this anything you want....worming, deworming, treating for parasites. Whatever butters your bread. I got it.
See and here in WY they are noticing a huge resisitance to Ivermectin in cattle and I have been told horses as well. It's all most people use year after year.
Well, I guess I just learned something. I really thought cattle had a different digestive system and different parasites. Guess I need to rotate. |
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