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 Zeal Queen
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       Location: TEXAS | I don't understand why all those people stayed knowing the hurricane was coming and how bad it was going to be. Now they all need rescuing!! Someone please explain this thinking to me?    |
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 Too Skinny
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   Location: LA Lower Alabama | Some areas were not expecting the flooding like they got so I can understand that. I saw a picture of an assisted living home and it really made me mad at the workers and owners but I have to rememebr that they were safe from the hurricane just not the crazy flooding going on. |
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | They were told for days that they would be having "catastrophic" flooding. I would have packed up and gone for high ground. It doesn't take a mandatory evacuation order to motivate me. |
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       Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | This has bothered me since this whole thing started. Not only did they put their own lives at risk, but now the lives of hundreds of rescue workers. I have friends that stayed due to the amount of livestock they had, but the people that lived in downtown just blow my mind. My godmothers niece stayed initially and tried to leave yesterday, she was stranded on top of her car for almost 5 hours. |
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| Having lived in the area, I'm not surprised. People constantly are getting cars flooded out in the areas the natives know floods every time it rains.
It's like the people that pay astronomical prices to live in parts of California with mudslides and fires, and then when nature eats their house do they take the hint and move on? No, they rebuild and watch insurance rates triple. |
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| Evacuating Houston would be impossible. They tried it, a couple of hurricanes ago. People died in their vehicles, stuck in traffic jams. There's way, way too many people.
Leaving voluntarily on a shoe string budget probably isn't feasible. When you've got $60 to last you till Friday, "The possibility of heavy rains", probably isn't going to be worth leaving for, or even be possible.
Just my thoughts.
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       Location: "Si Fi" Ville | Mixed messages of officials, some said stay in place, some said evacuate. Some people did not have the means, elderly,disabled, poor, and those on fixed incomes.
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| classicpotatochip - 2017-08-28 9:01 AM
Evacuating Houston would be impossible. They tried it, a couple of hurricanes ago. People died in their vehicles, stuck in traffic jams. There's way, way too many people.
Leaving voluntarily on a shoe string budget probably isn't feasible. When you've got $60 to last you till Friday, "The possibility of heavy rains", probably isn't going to be worth leaving for, or even be possible.
Just my thoughts.
This is the most realistic answer. Will add that many areas have never flooded before and the water came up fast, plus it was during the night and people could not get out in the dark. The son of a teacher down the hall from me lives in one of the towns around Houston and they had no idea that there area would flood and the water was up in there house in the middle of the night. A neighbor came and got them after daylight. She does not even know where they are right now but they let her know they are safe. |
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Some had at least the means to move their belongings to an upper floor etc...and didn't. Yes...some can't leave or don't have means...but many are just foolish. I feel for those who do not have means to go or take their things to high ground...but when every news channel and weather channel is saying "Catastrophic" flooding is coming...why would you not take every precaution you can?
And I will never understand folks deciding to drive into water. I get if the water comes up fast and catches you...but to deliberately drive into it? |
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         Location: Bandera, TX | classicpotatochip - 2017-08-28 9:01 AM Evacuating Houston would be impossible. They tried it, a couple of hurricanes ago. People died in their vehicles, stuck in traffic jams. There's way, way too many people. Leaving voluntarily on a shoe string budget probably isn't feasible. When you've got $60 to last you till Friday, "The possibility of heavy rains", probably isn't going to be worth leaving for, or even be possible. Just my thoughts.
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Nut Case Expert
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | Another thing bothered me. The people walking in water with the electricity on. There is footage of lamps plugged in with the cords submerged in water and people chasing fish around in their houses. I mean HELLO if there is water running thru your electric sockets it might be time to flip off the main breaker to you home. Has nobody mentioned what happens to people who use the hair dryer while taking a bath?? |
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| SC Wrangler - 2017-08-28 10:32 AM
Another thing bothered me. Β The people walking in water with the electricity on. Β There is footage of lamps plugged in with the cords submerged in water and people chasing fish around in their houses. Β I mean HELLO if there is water running thru your electric sockets it might be time to flip off the main breaker to you home. Β Has nobody mentioned what happens to people who use the hair dryer while taking a bath??
They have told people to turn off the electricity. |
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The Houston mayor told them to shelter in place.Our governor was telling people to evacuate, but the mayor threw a fit and told people to shelter in place. The last time, 2005, an evacuation took place thousands got caught on the highway during the hurricane and there were 100 or so killed. At least that is what the papers reported and they went so far as to speculate that it was a political fight between a Republican governor and a Democrat mayor. |
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | streakysox - 2017-08-28 10:35 AM
SC Wrangler - 2017-08-28 10:32 AM
Another thing bothered me. Β The people walking in water with the electricity on. Β There is footage of lamps plugged in with the cords submerged in water and people chasing fish around in their houses. Β I mean HELLO if there is water running thru your electric sockets it might be time to flip off the main breaker to you home. Β Has nobody mentioned what happens to people who use the hair dryer while taking a bath??
They have told people to turn off the electricity.
Again I do not understand some of the responses (or non-responses) to the warnings that have been issued. People were talking about waking up and stepping into water on their floors. How do you sleep while awaiting catastrophic flooding from 2' to 5' of predicted rain? Not just a minor news blip, but days of continual coverage. Is it just a case of sticking the head in sand and refusing to accept what is happening? When in doubt I cannot understand how the self-preservation instinct does not kick in. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Please dont be judging these poor people, alot of these places are places that has never flooded, this is a flood making history..    |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If anyone else is feeling confused over all this, just think how confused the flood victums must feel.. They are at a total lost at what to do at this point in their lives. :( |
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Nut Case Expert
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | I don't think anyone is making a judgement, just trying to understand the responses. |
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 You get what you give
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     Location: Texas | I would hope people would feel more compassion than finger pointing. There are many homes and neighborhoods that have NEVER flooded in the past. I know parts of Wharton are going to take on water that haven't flooded since the 1800s.
I remember trying to evacuate with Rita- Houston was deadlocked in traffic. Horses were dumped on the side of the road from dying in trailers. PEOPLE died of heat exhaustion/stroke on the roads and no one could get to them. One of the vets I work with said by the time one client finally turned around and made it to the clinic one of the horses in his trailer had already died. Had all those people been out on the roads when this flooding hit, where would they have gone? how many cars would have been swept away?
I know people, GOOD people, SMART people, who barely got out in time before their homes took in water. They've called this an "800 year flood." It's so easy for people on the outside looking in to point fingers and cast judgment. None of the TV reports mentioned 50 inches of rain until we had already received 24 inches of it with more to come. The only report I saw of anyone mentioning 50 inches of rain was some shady Facebook repost that was getting shared... and it ended up being true.
They've had to open reservoir dams and flood homes to spare others... they say those homes will be under water for months.
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| As someone who is going through the flood these posts irritate me. I have no idea what the national news is reporting as my TV has been on the local channels for up to date reporting. Yes, there are those who live in flood prone areas who know to evacuate and the majority of those did but you still have the few who refuse to leave and then need help. The majority of what you are seeing are neighborhoods that were told if you have not flooded before stay where you are. That quickly changed and people who were following the recommendations of authorities were caught off guard. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2017-08-28 1:42 PM As someone who is going through the flood these posts irritate me. I have no idea what the national news is reporting as my TV has been on the local channels for up to date reporting. Yes, there are those who live in flood prone areas who know to evacuate and the majority of those did but you still have the few who refuse to leave and then need help. The majority of what you are seeing are neighborhoods that were told if you have not flooded before stay where you are. That quickly changed and people who were following the recommendations of authorities were caught off guard.
Yep this thread irritated me too, and now another big problem is fixing to happen, the rivers are going to be cutting loose and this brings more threats even to my town and we were spared all the rain that was forcasted. We got 10 inches out here but thats nothing. |
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