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| There are numerous posts on FB of Red Cross shelters turning away food donations. One post that is verified as true, I know all the posts may not be, is turning away 300 hamburgers donated by a fast food company-all food items have to be purchased and go thru RC. This is at shelter where they have had one meal in 24 hours. The little town of Belleville which I live right next-door to, Chamber of Commerce put out an official notice that Red Cross was not welcome in their town and they would not work with any Red Cross volunteers. I understand liability etc. but these are desperate times, people are coming and wet and hungry and they are sticking to the red tape guidelines
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Location: Arkansas | This quite literally makes me want to puke. . . . You hear everything on the internet these days, so it's hard to know what to believe, but I had read about the RC before maybe not being on the up and up. . . |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | The RC has to follow their corporate guidelines. It is true they don't take outside food etc. they must get it through their "system". People is some cases are better served going through a local church or even putting up signs saying they will be at such and such a place at a certain time with food. They did that locally here during the tornado recovery and it worked well. |
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Location: Arkansas | 3canstorun - 2017-09-03 8:18 AM
The RC has to follow their corporate guidelines. It is true they don't take outside food etc. they must get it through their "system". People is some cases are better served going through a local church or even putting up signs saying they will be at such and such a place at a certain time with food. They did that locally here during the tornado recovery and it worked well.
I remember during Katrina, when so many "refugees" were in Lake Village, different churches and other organizations took turns feeding everyone usually at the local school since it could hold that many people. |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | I sort of have a problem with their head honcho having a salary of half a million dollars a year. I guess big administrative overhead just kind of offends my view of how "non-profits" should operate. |
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| I posted something a couple of days ago that really wasn't a rant but be careful about where you make donations. Since NOT ONE PERSON responded I assumed that most people on here really do not care to donate or had decided to donate to Red Cross. Friday at school I looked up the salary of the CEO of the RedCross. Try $651,000+. I have not donated to the Red Cross in about 25 years. (Because of personal experience). Today, on CBS SUNDAY MORNING, the person being interviewed stated that what they need much more than unusable donations was money in any disaster situation. I guess you can make donations to Red Cross as you check out at Walmart. I am sure that their CEO will appreciate everything you donate. There are a few other nationwide organizations that are managed better. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I dont donate to the Red Cross, dont trust on where my money is going, I rather donate to smaller groups that has the heart to make darn sure my money is going where I want it to be going for. Alot of the groups like Red Cross horde money I have heard, when I donate anything I want it to go for what is happening at the time.. Like when Katrina happen I think is was the Red Cross that was giving gift cards to the victums and lots were buying fancy purse's and other stuff that was not needed and was not going on food and other important things they were needing, because food stamps took care of that, so after that no more donate to the Red Cross. Now theres alot of good places to donate on my thread about Harvey and thats were my money is going. So if any body is planning on donating go to my Harvey thread, there it will be use for what is needed and will be used now.
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Location: OH. IO | streakysox - 2017-09-03 11:20 AMI posted something a couple of days ago that really wasn't a rant but be careful about where you make donations. Since NOT ONE PERSON responded I assumed that most people on here really do not care to donate or had decided to donate to Red Cross. Friday at school I looked up the salary of the CEO of the RedCross. Try $651,000+. I have not donated to the Red Cross in about 25 years. (Because of personal experience). Today, on CBS SUNDAY MORNING, the person being interviewed stated that what they need much more than unusable donations was money in any disaster situation. I guess you can make donations to Red Cross as you check out at Walmart. I am sure that their CEO will appreciate everything you donate. There are a few other nationwide organizations that are managed better. Do not assume no one read your post or don't care.Heck I made a post on tornadoes the other other day and just got a bump lololol.But I know they were in everyone's prayers.I donated heavily to private organizations and im sure most people on here are trying to help the horses,cattle,and farmers:))
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Location: never in the right place | this makes me very sad. I am in the Northeast and about 14 million was donated to the RC from all over the US. Our local TV stations had telethons to donate to them and people think they are helping those in Texas but only filling the RC coffers to pay their personnel. We have all seen the posts of the salaries of various "main" groups for donations but it is very hard to know which smaller ones will actually give the money where it is needed. I know in CT we have sent truck loads of food, water, diapers etc down there, I hope it is all getting in the proper hands. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Chandler's Mom - 2017-09-03 8:22 AM 3canstorun - 2017-09-03 8:18 AM The RC has to follow their corporate guidelines. It is true they don't take outside food etc. they must get it through their "system". People is some cases are better served going through a local church or even putting up signs saying they will be at such and such a place at a certain time with food. They did that locally here during the tornado recovery and it worked well. I remember during Katrina, when so many "refugees" were in Lake Village, different churches and other organizations took turns feeding everyone usually at the local school since it could hold that many people.
Same here. Our church has a commercial kitchen and we cooked/brought food for Katrina refugees. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | streakysox - 2017-09-03 10:20 AM I posted something a couple of days ago that really wasn't a rant but be careful about where you make donations. Since NOT ONE PERSON responded I assumed that most people on here really do not care to donate or had decided to donate to Red Cross. Friday at school I looked up the salary of the CEO of the RedCross. Try $651,000+. I have not donated to the Red Cross in about 25 years. (Because of personal experience). Today, on CBS SUNDAY MORNING, the person being interviewed stated that what they need much more than unusable donations was money in any disaster situation. I guess you can make donations to Red Cross as you check out at Walmart. I am sure that their CEO will appreciate everything you donate. There are a few other nationwide organizations that are managed better.
Many of us already knew. I found a local person I trusted and sent money straight to them to be used for those who needed assistance. Our church is also fundraising through the United Methodist conference, so it goes straight to local area churches. |
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Location: CTX | That is one of the reasons we only donate to the Salvation Army and not the goodwill stores... S.A. gets it to the people that need it. goodwill to their CEO..
This time I donated to JJ Watt, adn also to a local girl that bought hay, grain and other stuff and drove it down to one of the small towns that got hit hard. That way I know it gets to the people that are really needing it. |
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| ctdrumrunr - 2017-09-03 11:33 AM
this makes me very sad. I am in the Northeast and about 14 million was donated to the RC from all over the US. Our local TV stations had telethons to donate to them and people think they are helping those in Texas but only filling the RC coffers to pay their personnel. We have all seen the posts of the salaries of various "main" groups for donations but it is very hard to know which smaller ones will actually give the money where it is needed. I know in CT we have sent truck loads of food, water, diapers etc down there, I hope it is all getting in the proper hands.
The person who was being interviewed this morning was not from the Red Cross. The things she said were amazing. She said that most people think that these folks have lost everything and can use anything you send. These were some examples. Prom dresses sent to Africa. Bales of coats sent to Haiti or some tropical country. She said that water and diapers were the most usable and easily stored as far as longevity. She showed pictures of clothes that had been unloaded on a beach that were finally burned. Money sent could be used to purchase needed items in the area which would boost the economy. Ever heard of care packages? I lived in Nigeria in the early 1970's. Down in the market you could buy Care packages everywhere...cheap. The people there did not eat canned corn or green beans. They took the flour and canned milk out and didn't know what to do with the rest.
The thing that bothers me is the churches around Texas who have made food and Red Cross throws it away. Makes me want to puke.
Here are a few organizations that do not have highly paid executives.
The Catholic Church can get the job done! I am not Catholic. I do send them money pretty regularly
Salvation Army
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | The red cross is a business fronting as a charity.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | streakysox - 2017-09-03 1:04 PM ctdrumrunr - 2017-09-03 11:33 AM this makes me very sad. I am in the Northeast and about 14 million was donated to the RC from all over the US. Our local TV stations had telethons to donate to them and people think they are helping those in Texas but only filling the RC coffers to pay their personnel. We have all seen the posts of the salaries of various "main" groups for donations but it is very hard to know which smaller ones will actually give the money where it is needed. I know in CT we have sent truck loads of food, water, diapers etc down there, I hope it is all getting in the proper hands. The person who was being interviewed this morning was not from the Red Cross. The things she said were amazing. She said that most people think that these folks have lost everything and can use anything you send. These were some examples. Prom dresses sent to Africa. Bales of coats sent to Haiti or some tropical country. She said that water and diapers were the most usable and easily stored as far as longevity. She showed pictures of clothes that had been unloaded on a beach that were finally burned. Money sent could be used to purchase needed items in the area which would boost the economy. Ever heard of care packages? I lived in Nigeria in the early 1970's. Down in the market you could buy Care packages everywhere...cheap. The people there did not eat canned corn or green beans. They took the flour and canned milk out and didn't know what to do with the rest. The thing that bothers me is the churches around Texas who have made food and Red Cross throws it away. Makes me want to puke. Here are a few organizations that do not have highly paid executives. The Catholic Church can get the job done! I am not Catholic. I do send them money pretty regularly Salvation Army Operation Blessing (700Club ).
catholic charities does good work on a local level.
They fall off in a big way in big disater situations like this
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| ctdrumrunr - 2017-09-03 11:33 AM
this makes me very sad. I am in the Northeast and about 14 million was donated to the RC from all over the US. Our local TV stations had telethons to donate to them and people think they are helping those in Texas but only filling the RC coffers to pay their personnel. We have all seen the posts of the salaries of various "main" groups for donations but it is very hard to know which smaller ones will actually give the money where it is needed. I know in CT we have sent truck loads of food, water, diapers etc down there, I hope it is all getting in the proper hands.
Don't ever think that your donations are not appreciated here in Texas. They definitely are. Texas is a big state and I live about 5 hours from there. I was going to head down there for horse cattle rescue but by the time I get there they will either be dead or rescued. I know that not all Texans are on the level---Enron, Billy Sol Estes but we never lose our sense of humor or stop looking out for each other.
Please remember that there are a LOT of people in that area. The water will not recede for another 10 days or so. There are many animals that have been displaced and all kinds of shelters are full. There are many small towns that no one has ever heard of that need help too. Please do not stop donating. Find some organization that you trust and make some contribution.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | We quit donating to Red Cross in the 70's after we watched them in action after my parent's lost their home in a tornado.
I have friends and family that have been doing various different things and we've been donating to them. I know what I send will get to the people and animals.
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Location: Kansas | Believe me I have to go a long way back to the memory of my history teacher Mr. Brazil in high school. He served in the Korean War and was not afraid to talk about it. Here was his take on the Red Cross vs Salvation Army.
Soldiers were "sold" cigarettes by the Red Cross. Soldiers were "given" cigarettes by the Salvation Army. He despised the Red Cross.
Don't think in terms of the dangers of cigarettes. This was just an example he used and every soldier smoked cigarettes to calm their nerves.
I sent my donations to Texas with a volunteer from a company we work with in Wichita. I know they were going where they will be needed. Good guy.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Red Cross is getting a beat down on FB and I will say...It's well deserved and about time. The BS they do outweighs the little they do. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | SC Wrangler - 2017-09-04 8:37 AM I sort of have a problem with their head honcho having a salary of half a million dollars a year. I guess big administrative overhead just kind of offends my view of how "non-profits" should operate.
Same reason I won't buy Girl Scout cookies. Those kids get something like 25 cents out of a 4.50 box of over priced cookies. Check out the salaries of those in charge. |
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