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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2017-10-01 7:21 PM
Subject: Hot Shot (Nate Shilabar)


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Did any of you see Hot Shot up close? How tall was he? Was he well-conformed (any flaws)? He seemed to have massive hindquarters. What made him so formidable? All input appreciated. Thanks in advance, all.
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2017-10-01 7:41 PM
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texpat - 2017-10-01 7:21 PM Did any of you see Hot Shot up close? How tall was he? Was he well-conformed (any flaws)? He seemed to have massive hindquarters. What made him so formidable? All input appreciated. Thanks in advance, all.

I got to meet him in Memphis, acutally the Showplace not really in Memphis, around 2003-2004. We went without an entry just to see the great Hotshot. The family was very gracious. I didn't measure him but he wasn't a tall horse.  I'm guessing 14.2-14.3 tops. Very well put together. Wide as a tank!! Very, very good natured horse at the stall.

We were in the presense of greatness and it showed. Buckskin has always been my favorite color too.

My favorite horse of all time that was owned by someone else is and always will be Marshian Moon. Probably knowing the Lettermans so well and seeing MM so often but Hotshot was the better horse.

But when I start thinking about all time horses I am drawn to memories of Rooster.


I would love to see Hotshot and Rooster hook up with both in their prime.
 
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2017-10-01 7:43 PM
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He didn't seem conformation-wise nearly on the same level as Lisa Lockhart's Louie but had a lot of good things going for him. Obviously he loved his job and was darn good at it.  There are just those "special" horses out there and he was one of them.   I think a lot of us would have liked to have seen him enjoy a few retirement years.


 
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-10-01 7:47 PM
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I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-10-01 7:58 PM
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Hadn't thought about Hotshot's pedigree but I would say he got his speed from Master Hand, Steel Bars and Gay Bar King.
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-10-01 7:58 PM
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 I was fortunate enough to see him run a few times, he had a big stride for a not so big horse.   He loved his job and he never slowed down around the barrel, never stalled, always had tremendous forward motion, always one smooth motion.
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Meep.Meep
Reg. Jun 2017
Posted 2017-10-01 8:10 PM
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streakysox - 2017-10-01 7:47 PM

I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.

Peyton made it to the NFR first on him, the gal that trained him.
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Meep.Meep
Reg. Jun 2017
Posted 2017-10-01 8:11 PM
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Frodo - 2017-10-01 7:43 PM

He didn't seem conformation-wise nearly on the same level as Lisa Lockhart's Louie but had a lot of good things going for him. Obviously he loved his job and was darn good at it.  There are just those "special" horses out there and he was one of them.   I think a lot of us would have liked to have seen him enjoy a few retirement years.


 

I don't think Hot Shot had near the soundness issues Louie has had though, but I could be wrong. When they'd try to leave Hot Shot home he'd get upset, I don't think he wanted to retire :-)
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2017-10-01 8:18 PM
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Meep.Meep - 2017-10-01 8:11 PM
Frodo - 2017-10-01 7:43 PM He didn't seem conformation-wise nearly on the same level as Lisa Lockhart's Louie but had a lot of good things going for him. Obviously he loved his job and was darn good at it.  There are just those "special" horses out there and he was one of them.   I think a lot of us would have liked to have seen him enjoy a few retirement years.


 
I don't think Hot Shot had near the soundness issues Louie has had though, but I could be wrong. When they'd try to leave Hot Shot home he'd get upset, I don't think he wanted to retire :-)
 He had some soundness issues or an injury, I don't know what but I remember an interview they gave and said that was the reason the put the younger sister on him, less weight.  Edited to add this was toward the latter years of his career and nothing unusual for a horse competing at that level fir that many years 

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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2017-10-01 8:20 PM
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streakysox - 2017-10-01 7:47 PM I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.

 Janet didn't qualify on him, her horse was hurt so Peyton called her and offered to let her run Hotshot at the finals.  Janet got most of her advice about running him from the late great Ed Wright.  She called him every night after her run to see what she should do different.  Stienhoff's were already using him and bought him while Janet had him at the finals.  The broadcasters announced on tv that he had just sold as a Christmas presant to a young girl (stienhoff).
That is what Uncle Ed said about Janet & Hotshot's time at the NFR anyway.

 
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2017-10-01 8:33 PM
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they were at perry and was standing by my son mare speedy  speedy was barely 14.3 and he was a tad smaller   he was a quarter horse sectratreit <sp>

?80,000 if my memory is right was what they paid or announce   he was awesome to watch 
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Turnburnsis
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2017-10-01 8:42 PM
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One of my best friend is Peyton and the stories that she has of him! He was a little horse. Peyton says the reason he was so great was not bc he could run fast but he beat them in his turns! For those of you that have horses hard to train if you believe in them keep after it Hotshot is proof they can come around and be something! It was not an easy road to get him finished and he still had some quirks! I love it when he comes up because he surely is not forgotten!
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Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2017-10-01 8:42 PM
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Way back when he was a youngster, he ran locally at the jackpots and beat everybody. He wasn't very big.  
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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2017-10-01 8:45 PM
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Thanks S.S. So he did have quite a bit of speed. As an afterthought, did he have a nice head? Not necessarily a halter-quality head but not a head like an anvil either.
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2017-10-01 8:59 PM
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He wasn't very big and he wasn't very pretty. That's my opinion. He was wide and stout. No one can argue his record. But he wasn't a horse that you saw and went..."WOW! Now THAT'S a really pretty animal".

His head was ok. It wasn't pretty, but it wasn't like it was huge and ugly either. Everything about him, except for his ability, was pretty nondescript.
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Ashley Lynn
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2017-10-01 9:21 PM
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Hot Shot was very plain and pretty common looking until he entered the arena. I was fortunate enough to watch my best friend set the arena record at the Josey Ranch on him in 2000. The 15.596 that he ran there still stands as the arena record today.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-10-01 9:46 PM
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streakysox - 2017-10-01 7:47 PM

I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.

Peyton made it to the NFR first on him, the gal that trained him.

I didn't say that Janet trained him. I said Janet put her touch on his training. She can tweet mine anytime.
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Meep.Meep
Reg. Jun 2017
Posted 2017-10-01 9:51 PM
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streakysox - 2017-10-01 9:46 PM

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streakysox - 2017-10-01 7:47 PM

I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.

Peyton made it to the NFR first on him, the gal that trained him.

I didn't say that Janet trained him. I said Janet put her touch on his training. She can tweet mine anytime.

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Quick3
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2017-10-02 9:02 AM
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Living in eastern Oklahoma, I got to see Hotshot run quite often.  HE NEVER SLOWED DOWN!  From the time he entered the alley to the time he left.  He had a remarkable efficient turn and maintained speed all the way around.  I remember his first fun back after a suspensory injury, when Tierney started riding him.  I wanted to watch to see if he could make a comeback.  He won the jackpot by 4 tenths!  I kind of feel like Hotshot created the need for a 5D because he would often be in the 1D all by himself, even at big races.  There will never be another one like him!   
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2017-10-02 9:03 AM
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When I saw him at Guthrie, I remember seeing shoes on him that were built up pretty high in the back.  It was like seeing a person with orthopedic shoes.  You couldn't miss it.

 
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