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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Why? Why is this important? What was wrong with having Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts? This is political correctness taken to an extreme. Am I missing something?
The world has gone nuts, I swear. |
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| I AGREE! What in THE hell is happening to our country?? We're a bunch of whiney, offended snowflakes. |
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| Next is going to be boys in the girl scouts.... it is sad |
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Location: Kansas | My generation is a bunch of whiney babies, I'm so embarrassed to be considered one of them. |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| If they are going to allow girls in the boys and boys in the girls, why don't they just call it Scouts and teach everyone everything??
Boys need to be able to sew and cook, etc, and girls need to know how to tie knots and use a knife, etc.
But the reason they were separate was for the comradere (sp?) and knowing you could be independent on your own because you were a fearless boy or girl. I don't understand the point if they are mixed. It's just another club then.
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | As a girl scout growing up I was a member of a rural troop. We did all of the outdoor camping, hiking, knife skills, fire making etc etc that I suppose the boy scouts did. I also learned basic cooking skills (again...mostly outdoor on a campfire). Sure we did crafts and learned Morse code and other more indoor stuff...but the point was we learned to work together with other girls and built social skills as well. And...my gold and silver awards were included on my college applications etc.
I see absolutely no need for girls to join a boy scout troop. Unless there isn't a girl scout troop in their area possibly. It just seems to be a solution in search of a problem...and some publicity/drama. |
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Location: Texas | Truly can't say I'm surprised. SMH |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | From what I read, they have been admitting girls in limited programs already and the plan looks like one where they will still have gender separated 'dens' for local programs and allow girls to become eagle scouts which hasn't been allowed in the more limited admissions they had done previously. I don't honestly see any harm in that, especially if they are still keeping things generally separated and just letting girls they were already allowing in access to certain honors.
It does seem misleading to still call it boy scouts though. They should just call it Scouts as someone else said. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I think this was one of those rare topics where I couldn't imagine anyone offering a remotely sensible explanation for this change.
I'm sure someone will come up with some convoluted, albeit twisted, rationale. I can't imagine what that will be. |
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Location: East Texas | As an eagle scout, I long ago quit supporting the BSA when they got away from the morals and principles they were founded on. It is a sad commentary on society in general. |
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Location: Kansas | Do youngsters even join anymore. I don't know a lot of kids these days but never hear any speak of being a member of Scouts. The ones I do know, unless it involved a laptop or a cellphone, wouldn't think it was "cool."
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| Frodo - 2017-10-12 9:44 AM Do youngsters even join anymore. I don't know a lot of kids these days but never hear any speak of being a member of Scouts. The ones I do know, unless it involved a laptop or a cellphone, wouldn't think it was "cool."
All but one of our Girl Scout camps on the eastern side of Iowa have closed. Girls just weren't coming because it got too expensive and then there were the ones who couldn't leave the AC for more than 5 min. |
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| Oh yeah this is the biggest problem BSA has ever had! Forget all of the rape that has been going on within this organization. We must draw the line at allowing girls to join. |
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| Frodo - 2017-10-12 9:44 AM
Do youngsters even join anymore. I don't know a lot of kids these days but never hear any speak of being a member of Scouts. The ones I do know, unless it involved a laptop or a cellphone, wouldn't think it was "cool."
Oh yeah they join, I know because their PARENTS come to WORK to sell the cookies and popcorn (which is a WHOLE other topic). |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | SloRide - 2017-10-12 9:58 AM
Oh yeah this is the biggest problem BSA has ever had! Forget all of the rape that has been going on within this organization. We must draw the line at allowing girls to join.
Why am I not surprised? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | SloRide - 2017-10-12 9:58 AM
Oh yeah this is the biggest problem BSA has ever had! Forget all of the rape that has been going on within this organization. We must draw the line at allowing girls to join.
So, I'm just curious. Because of the incidents, to which you refer, would you favor the Boy Scouts of America simply go away? |
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| CrossDRanch - 2017-10-12 9:34 AM
As an eagle scout, I long ago quit supporting the BSA when they got away from the morals and principles they were founded on. It is a sad commentary on society in general.
Yup same here, the BSA had a decent program, but any organization so willing to cave to the politically correct protesters for fear of a law suit deserves to become extinct. The LDS church makes up about half of BSA in the US and even the church has been withdrawing as fast as they can. BSA has put the nail in their own coffin with this change. |
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Location: California | 100% agree!! I think there needs to still be something in this world where girls can have their own thing and boys can also have their own thing. Why does everything have to be all mixed up?! I'm all for equality and what not, but this is on a whole other level. |
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Location: East Texas | oija - 2017-10-12 8:41 AM
From what I read, they have been admitting girls in limited programs already and the plan looks like one where they will still have gender separated 'dens' for local programs and allow girls to become eagle scouts which hasn't been allowed in the more limited admissions they had done previously. I don't honestly see any harm in that, especially if they are still keeping things generally separated and just letting girls they were already allowing in access to certain honors.
It does seem misleading to still call it boy scouts though. They should just call it Scouts as someone else said.
That's where I see the problem... they won't keep it separated:
The change takes effect in 2018 when girls can begin signing up for Cub Scouts and the release says Cub Scout packs will remain single gender. Existing Boy Scout packs (which is for children aged 11-17) can choose between three options: make a new all-girl pack, make a co-ed a pack for girls and boys or remain an all-boy pack. A In 2018, the program for older girls to earn the Eagle Scout rank will be announced, which be implemented in 2019.
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| Wondering if its actually a numbers thing to keep the clubs going? enrollment is dropping, they have raised their dues, and pass it off as being "forward thinking" but really it was that or go under? Now our county is charging a fee for 4H membership. |
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