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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | These lone wolf attacks just don't stop.
8 dead, 9 injured, at least. |
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     Location: OH. IO | How sad:(. And the Halloween parade starts there in a couple hours,I pray everyone will be safe
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | I think in our future, sadly, this will become our "new normal" .... Instead of guns, ISIS is promoting the idea that "homegrown" terrorists (in all countries) use vehicles to hit and kill as many as possible. |
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    Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Its the underground Goverment still trying to get the public so enraged so they can take our guns from us. Watch the politicions say we need more gun laws. You want to stop this. Make everyone carry a gun. Look at Israel. Everybody is trained and carrys. The only reason it happens here is the bad guys have the advantage. Shooting fish in a bowl. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Guns had nothing to do with this. |
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| I caught the tail end of the story on the news... but I believe they said they confiscated a paintball gun from him. He was shot but survived, wonder if we will get any answers from him. |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | want2chase3 - 2017-10-31 5:21 PM I caught the tail end of the story on the news... but I believe they said they confiscated a paintball gun from him. He was shot but survived, wonder if we will get any answers from him.
True....apparently, he had a paintball gun and a pellet gun....IMO, it was his suicide by cop scenario......thinking that they would shoot and kill him! |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | If these vehicle attacks continue, just stop for a minute and imagine.
Anywhere you have crowds of people or crowded sidewalks will be vulnerable. They will put up barricades here and there, but there's no way of stopping them. Clearly all this news is just going to inspire copycat aspiring terrorists. This attack is nothing compared to what happened in Nice, France last year during Bastile day. That bastard killed about 90 and injured a couple hundred more with a truck.
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| NJJ - 2017-10-31 5:30 PM want2chase3 - 2017-10-31 5:21 PM I caught the tail end of the story on the news... but I believe they said they confiscated a paintball gun from him. He was shot but survived, wonder if we will get any answers from him. True....apparently, he had a paintball gun and a pellet gun....IMO, it was his suicide by cop scenario......thinking that they would shoot and kill him!
Yep, wanted to die a martyr |
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| BS Hauler - 2017-10-31 5:09 PM Its the underground Goverment still trying to get the public so enraged so they can take our guns from us. Watch the politicions say we need more gun laws. You want to stop this. Make everyone carry a gun. Look at Israel. Everybody is trained and carrys. The only reason it happens here is the bad guys have the advantage. Shooting fish in a bowl.
Nope, copycat from other vehicle attacks happening in Europe |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stop with the gun paranoia. This has nothing to do with guns.
Read about the incident, for God's sake. You sound stupid. |
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| Bear - 2017-10-31 8:50 PM Stop with the gun paranoia. This has nothing to do with guns. Read about the incident, for God's sake. You sound stupid.
One could argue that the current gun laws are sufficient since he did not use a gun, he was carrying a pellet and paint gun. |
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        Location: Kansas | This guy was here on a Diversity Immigration Visa, something manufactured by Chuck Schumer, to allow immigrants from countries who don't often enter the U.S., into the U.S.................thanks Chuck.
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Heard a quote on a couple of differnt news outlets late last night and this morning.
Verbatim
"the suspect was apparently shouting God is Great"
Let that soak in for a minute.
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        Location: Kansas | lttllace - 2017-11-01 8:23 AM So funny how people grab one quote from DT's twitter (that he got from Fox news this morning) and run with it. I would encourage you to do a little research to understand all of the facts, who all wrote and passed the bill, and the circumstances around it. Maybe, just maybe, we should be working together to prevent another attack instead of politicizing what happened, and think about the victims and their families. Just a thought. . . . Cheers!
It's not easy to work around the open borders policies of past decades.
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| lttllace - 2017-11-01 8:23 AM So funny how people grab one quote from DT's twitter (that he got from Fox news this morning) and run with it. I would encourage you to do a little research to understand all of the facts, who all wrote and passed the bill, and the circumstances around it. Maybe, just maybe, we should be working together to prevent another attack instead of politicizing what happened, and think about the victims and their families. Just a thought. . . . Cheers! Just like the respect given the victims of Las Vegas, the call for more gun control laws started the very same day. Neither “side” can claim they give respect and do not politicize a situation, give me a break. No media “reports new” they all spin and promote their agenda. Morning Joe said Trumps tweet calling for more vetting is Trump saying all our problems are caused by by immigrants -Trump said no such thing, he did not even imply it, MSNBC spreads more lies, hate and division then the best out there.
Under the program, the State Department offers 50,000 visas to each year to immigrants from parts of the world with relatively low immigration rates over the previous five years. Most visas go to people from African nations, as The Washington Post has reported.
To qualify, applicants must have a high school education or two years in an occupation in that requires formal training. Those who meet eligibility requirements are selected at random from a computer lottery. The State Department refers to them as “diversity immigrants.”
The program did originate in part in a bill introduced in 1990 by Schumer, who was then a member of the House. He proposed making a set numbers of visas available each year to “diversity immigrants” from “low-admission” countries.Under the program, the State Department offers 50,000 visas to each year to immigrants from parts of the world with relatively low immigration rates over the previous five years. Most visas go to people from African nations, as The Washington Post has reported. To qualify, applicants must have a high school education or two years in an occupation in that requires formal training. Those who meet eligibility requirements are selected at random from a computer lottery. The State Department refers to them as “diversity immigrants.” The program did originate in part in a bill introduced in 1990 by Schumer, who was then a member of the House. He proposed making a set numbers of visas available each year to “diversity immigrants” from “low-admission” countries. Schumer’s measure was absorbed into a broader House immigration bill, which was sponsored by Schumer and 31 others, including several Republicans. The legislation passed in a bipartisan vote of 231-192. The Senate version, which contained the “diversity immigrants” provision, passed in an overwhelming 89-8 vote and was signed into law by President George H.W. Bush at the end of 1990. For the past decade or so, political leaders have debated whether to keep issuing diversity visas.
Schumer’s measure was absorbed into a broader House immigration bill, which was sponsored by Schumer and 31 others, including several Republicans. The legislation passed in a bipartisan vote of 231-192. The Senate version, which contained the “diversity immigrants” provision, passed in an overwhelming 89-8 vote and was signed into law by President George H.W. Bush at the end of 1990.
For the past decade or so, political leaders have debated whether to keep issuing diversity visas.
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| 1DSoon - 2017-11-01 7:48 AM Heard a quote on a couple of differnt news outlets late last night and this morning.
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"the suspect was apparently shouting God is Great"
Let that soak in for a minute.
Facts are no longer a requirement, more important to not offend, push your agenda, interpret and tell people how to think. |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | rodeomom3 - 2017-11-01 9:12 AM lttllace - 2017-11-01 8:23 AM So funny how people grab one quote from DT's twitter (that he got from Fox news this morning) and run with it. I would encourage you to do a little research to understand all of the facts, who all wrote and passed the bill, and the circumstances around it. Maybe, just maybe, we should be working together to prevent another attack instead of politicizing what happened, and think about the victims and their families. Just a thought. . . . Cheers! Just like the respect given the victims of Las Vegas, the call for more gun control laws started the very same day. Neither “side” can claim they give respect and do not politicize a situation, give me a break. No media “reports new” they all spin and promote their agenda. Morning Joe said Trumps tweet calling for more vetting is Trump saying all our problems are caused by by immigrants -Trump said no such thing, he did not even imply it, MSNBC spreads more lies, hate and division then the best out there. Under the program, the State Department offers 50,000 visas to each year to immigrants from parts of the world with relatively low immigration rates over the previous five years. Most visas go to people from African nations, as The Washington Post has reported. To qualify, applicants must have a high school education or two years in an occupation in that requires formal training. Those who meet eligibility requirements are selected at random from a computer lottery. The State Department refers to them as “diversity immigrants.” The program did originate in part in a bill introduced in 1990 by Schumer, who was then a member of the House. He proposed making a set numbers of visas available each year to “diversity immigrants” from “low-admission” countries.Under the program, the State Department offers 50,000 visas to each year to immigrants from parts of the world with relatively low immigration rates over the previous five years. Most visas go to people from African nations, as The Washington Post has reported. To qualify, applicants must have a high school education or two years in an occupation in that requires formal training. Those who meet eligibility requirements are selected at random from a computer lottery. The State Department refers to them as “diversity immigrants.” The program did originate in part in a bill introduced in 1990 by Schumer, who was then a member of the House. He proposed making a set numbers of visas available each year to “diversity immigrants” from “low-admission” countries. Schumer’s measure was absorbed into a broader House immigration bill, which was sponsored by Schumer and 31 others, including several Republicans. The legislation passed in a bipartisan vote of 231-192. The Senate version, which contained the “diversity immigrants” provision, passed in an overwhelming 89-8 vote and was signed into law by President George H.W. Bush at the end of 1990. For the past decade or so, political leaders have debated whether to keep issuing diversity visas. Schumer’s measure was absorbed into a broader House immigration bill, which was sponsored by Schumer and 31 others, including several Republicans. The legislation passed in a bipartisan vote of 231-192. The Senate version, which contained the “diversity immigrants” provision, passed in an overwhelming 89-8 vote and was signed into law by President George H.W. Bush at the end of 1990.For the past decade or so, political leaders have debated whether to keep issuing diversity visas. WHY are we always SO intent on jumping on the first band wagon that rolls along.....and continually trying to point fingers at the other party and divide the country more????? The post above PROVES that it was NOT just a Democratic bill but sponsored and helped to pass by MANY Republicans .....
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