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HJS26
Reg. Nov 2017
Posted 2017-11-02 9:32 AM
Subject: Ulcer Prevention


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Hey ya’ll I’m looking for everyone’s opinion on the best ulcer prevention. I have a 7 year old mare that has had ulcers before with the previous owner. She started slowing down on her grain which is not normal for her, sometimes she will just walk away and won’t finish it. I’m wanting to get her on a good prevention, maybe treatment as she is going to the vet next week so I know for sure what I’m dealing with. I use bio gut on my horses but I’m looking for something strictly for ulcers. Any input would be greatly appreciated! ??
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-11-02 9:58 AM
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Hey there! THis is a topic that is frequently asked on here. If you want to read some of the previous threads on the subject, just google " Ulcer prevention Barrel horse world" and it will bring up tons of threads where people have discussed their opinions. However, make sure your horse has forage in front of them 24/7 to begin with. Limit any grain to less than 2 pounds per feeding, one pound is even better. For your horse, I would make sure they were not receiving any molasses. As for products.... U guard pellets are a simple and economical daily antacid. If you want something better, curost stomach, MVP gastroplex, etc.. Tons of options. Hope that helps!
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RedHead84
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2017-11-02 10:17 AM
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If you think you already have an issue, I would consult with your vet. More than likely he'd suggest 28 days of Gastrogard or Ulcergard. Then, you can pick a supplement for ongoing treatment. There is a lot to choose from as the poster above mentioned.
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MidWest1452
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2017-11-02 10:49 AM
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Ulcer prevents are pretty much delaying the inevitable of dealing with ulcers again if you don't fix the cause. Its a vicious cycle that you can keep chasing if you don't change something.

Cut back grain and push forage. The digestive system can take a long time to completely heal itself. This includes the hindgut which many people forget about. The whole system needs to be happy and healthy for nutrients to be absorbed.

Don't rely on equine antacids( which many ulcer prevents are). This is like you taking tums everyday to help your heatburn after you eat taco bell.

I would first look at your feed program before spending money on any prevents or treatments.

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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2017-11-02 11:57 AM
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Make sure whatever you use will treat both fore and hind gut ulcers. I use Cool Gut by Dac. It’s very affordable and works.
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2017-11-02 5:51 PM
Subject: RE: Ulcer Prevention


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Get on the best diet you can for them-free choice roughage. Either in quality hay or pasture. I hear alfalfa is beneficial too. I hate processed grains for any horse that is prone to ulcers. If you do all this and still have a horse that frets or gets nervous, they can still end up with ulcers. Sometimes your most mellow horse will have ulcers because they fret inside.
THE makes GastroPLUS which is great for ulcers and as a preventitive 30 scoops is $110. If you don't need something so strong they make GI Ulcer Support 80 scoops is $80 
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2017-11-02 8:52 PM
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 I Love THE gastro plus products. Has anyone used Redmond daily gold for ulcer prevention?
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-11-02 10:36 PM
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WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-11-02 6:52 PM

 I Love THE gastro plus products. Has anyone used Redmond daily gold for ulcer prevention?

I started it on two horses and they both had a colic episode. My vet suspected the clay like material got balled up in them. Just my personal experience.
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2017-11-02 11:02 PM
Subject: RE: Ulcer Prevention


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FLITASTIC - 2017-11-02 10:36 PM

WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-11-02 6:52 PM

 I Love THE gastro plus products. Has anyone used Redmond daily gold for ulcer prevention?

I started it on two horses and they both had a colic episode. My vet suspected the clay like material got balled up in them. Just my personal experience.

 I wondered about this. All I've been reading it says to only feed for 2 to 4 weeks. Redmond products are great products... So why with such information out there on how to feed bentonite clay, why are they advising to feed it daily as a preventative?
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tracies
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2017-11-03 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: Ulcer Prevention


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 I am a firm believer that the right prebiotics and probiotics will help prevent ulcers.  I have a horse that was constantly ulcery "acting" since he was a baby.  Once I put him on a feed and a probiotic supplement that together have a wide spectrum of pre and probiotics, he hasn't had any trouble since. Could be coincindence, but I don't think so.
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-11-03 9:36 AM
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WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-11-02 9:02 PM

FLITASTIC - 2017-11-02 10:36 PM

WetSaddleBlankets - 2017-11-02 6:52 PM

 I Love THE gastro plus products. Has anyone used Redmond daily gold for ulcer prevention?

I started it on two horses and they both had a colic episode. My vet suspected the clay like material got balled up in them. Just my personal experience.

 I wondered about this. All I've been reading it says to only feed for 2 to 4 weeks. Redmond products are great products... So why with such information out there on how to feed bentonite clay, why are they advising to feed it daily as a preventative?

I know! I knew something was up because both horses had mild colicky symptoms on the SAME DAY, within a couple hours of each other. Nothing else had changed, weather etc. I brought my product with me to the vet and she looked it over and first thing she said was " This is full of bentonite clay, its what most poultices are made of. When its wet it gets thick gooey, I would use it on my horses legs, but I certainly wouldnt feed it." It was only a mild colic and she didn't even oil them, after 24 hours and they had passed it all they were back to being normal. Never another problem after that.
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Meep.Meep
Reg. Jun 2017
Posted 2017-11-03 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: Ulcer Prevention


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tracies - 2017-11-03 8:53 AM

 I am a firm believer that the right prebiotics and probiotics will help prevent ulcers.  I have a horse that was constantly ulcery "acting" since he was a baby.  Once I put him on a feed and a probiotic supplement that together have a wide spectrum of pre and probiotics, he hasn't had any trouble since. Could be coincindence, but I don't think so.

Unlimited forage, and a good pre/probiotic.

A lot of horse people like to think things are more complex, but the more natural/simple the better!!!
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-11-03 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: Ulcer Prevention



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Believe me.... I would LOVEEEEEEEEEEE to only feed a small amount of whole oats with my supplement but I have a mare that will TIE UP something fierce on oats.... They have unlimited forage and very natural diets... BUT I can't risk it with her. I have even consulted with Dr. Schell about it but not much help there since he can't physically see my mare. lol
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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2017-11-03 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: Ulcer Prevention



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I use MVP Gastro-Plex, haven't had an ulcer issue in over a year so far which was when I started it. There's a couple posts on here with the full story of my experience with ulcers. I do feed a high fat, low starch feed and try to keep alfalfa around them as often as I can during the day, but I've always done that so that isn't new. If you're interested in trying the Gastro-Plex you can message me for details about any offers going on right now. I'm an Ambassador for MVP so I can help you with any deals we have going on.
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treasurehunter
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2017-11-04 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: Ulcer Prevention



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I have a friend who is feeding softer alfalfa cubes and unlimited forage along with a supplement to around 30 head, with no signs of ulcers in a year. She swears by it.

So far I’ve been feeding a little Purina Healthy Edge to balance the diet along with a cup of Outlast which is specifically for Ulcer Prevention at every feeding, soft cubes, Bermuda hay, and alfalfa.

Numerous horses, all at different levels of riding and competition stressors AND no signs of ulcers.

I used the Outlast for a friends horse that I rode for 30 Days. Horse was thin when she arrived, got very picky, very grumpy, and I added a cup of Outlast to her feed and hay diet.
She went back to eating,gained weight, and became relaxed while still under a heavy riding schedule.
That was the only thing I did differently. I’m impressed with it.
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