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Location: Oklahoma | I am pretty sure saddle fits. and it only rolls when I made a run the other day but he hit so hard around the barrels and after running I realize there is some issues that need to be worked out. only had horse a week. I have even sweat patterns and no back soreness. I am wondering if maybe pad a little too thick, or girth might be a little long? The saddle was tight when I got done running. If saddle fits but rolls what is your opinion that would make a saddle roll? He is cow bred but has some withers to him. |
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| I would try a thin pad first. |
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Location: Stephenville, TX | I had a saddle roll because the tree was too wide. Bought the same saddle in the standard width and no more roll. Didn't appreciate doing the fender drag at a major race. Lol. Didn't matter what thickness or pad I tried. |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| You may be able to stop it rolling by changing the pad, if that does not work you could try shims, if it still rolls you need a different saddle. |
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| Turnburnsis - 2017-11-05 8:08 PM I am pretty sure saddle fits. and it only rolls when I made a run the other day but he hit so hard around the barrels and after running I realize there is some issues that need to be worked out. only had horse a week. I have even sweat patterns and no back soreness. I am wondering if maybe pad a little too thick, or girth might be a little long? The saddle was tight when I got done running. If saddle fits but rolls what is your opinion that would make a saddle roll? He is cow bred but has some withers to him.
Saddles that fit correct typically don't roll (especially if the horse has withers) and they don't slide backwards or forwards. With that being said, maybe try a pad with a longer cutback to accommodate the length of the wither. Caldwell sells a couple that they designed that have a 10" or 13" cutback - I have found this pad to be a difference maker. |
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 Coyote Country Queen
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| I'm dealing with the same issue, my saddle slides back and rolls during a run. I've tried saddles with wide, narrow, and medium trees. The same with my pads. Had him fitted by a saddle company, and couldn't even lope a circle without their saddle all but rolling off the side. I played around with my saddles and pads to get the best fit I could. I'm currently using a really thick pad (stole my husband's thick roping pad) and a tree with a medium gullet width. It's not perfect, but for now it works. I don't have much advice, just try some different combinations to see what works. |
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  Sock eating dog owner
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Don't use a fleece like bottom pad. A wool blanket or those cheap blankets against the back then your standard pad should eliminate roll if your saddle fits. Don't use a one inch pad,use 2 blankets and 1/2 inch pad. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | If your saddle is truely rolling then you will be constantly straightening it out during your everyday riding. It will never feel tight, but your cinch will be plenty tight. That would mean your saddle is not fitting. Mine was due to it being too narrow.
Give it more time and try some different pads & cinches. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Thank you all. I was thinking trying a thinner pad. But I wasn't sure if the length of the girth made a lot of difference in the roll. The horse that I am riding is a Dual Ray, he is built like a cow horse. Most saddles fit him. I'm riding for a friend and may have to go get her saddle but I don't want to bc I love mine. Of course whatever better for horse. I have even sweat marks and he is not upset when I saddle or after I ride. And it has even pressure from front and back and no rock. I had so many saddle issues with my horse that what I have learned this saddle fits. It does not roll when riding everyday in it. It just rolled and not much but enough to feel it go to the outside a little and not be centered. But it was the first time I ran him and he hit hard 3/4 of the turn. He is not using himself correctly and that may be why and once I figure that out we may be ok on the saddle and pad. I am riding in a 5star 7/8 pad (I think it is 7/8) So I will try changing the pad first. thanks again! |
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| Evidently you are riding a mutton withered horse and need all the grab you can
get ...
A good snug fitting 3" wide breast collar with lugs hooked to saddle or girth D's
and a wide mohair roper girth and snug up your back girth too ...
Try to find you a real horse hair felt pad and use a single or double layer wool
Aztec wool blanket over it for more compression and they are pretty too.
and stop spraying your horses back with WD 40 ... lol |
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| I think you said it yourself, too long of cinch and too thick of pad. Try a shorter cinch (and if you are using a string cinch I would try either a felt lined or a neoprene cinch instead) and a 3/4" pad. Good place to start. |
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| Girth length can definitely make a difference. I've met very few horses that can truly use a 34 or 36 inch girth. My 16h gelding wore a 32. He's now in a 28, but thats with a drop rigging treeless saddle. What length is your girth and how big is your horse? My little gelding is in a 28 with a treed saddle. |
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