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Location: Cocoa, Florida | Realized after this weekend I need to make some major changes, I have a 14.3 hand horse that is very quick and catty and if I want to be able to really reach her potential I need to shed some lbs and get stronger in my core. My friend told me about the keto diet and I researched it thoroughly, it’s been 3 days now with NO bread at all and I’m doing well. Has anyone else done this diet and had success on it? Pros and cons? | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | RnRJack - 2018-01-17 5:40 PM Realized after this weekend I need to make some major changes, I have a 14.3 hand horse that is very quick and catty and if I want to be able to really reach her potential I need to shed some lbs and get stronger in my core. My friend told me about the keto diet and I researched it thoroughly, it’s been 3 days now with NO bread at all and I’m doing well. Has anyone else done this diet and had success on it? Pros and cons?
really are no cons except it's very restictive.
If all you cut out is bread you won't see much of a result.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | 1DSoon - 2018-01-17 4:43 PM
RnRJack - 2018-01-17 5:40 PM Realized after this weekend I need to make some major changes, I have a 14.3 hand horse that is very quick and catty and if I want to be able to really reach her potential I need to shed some lbs and get stronger in my core. My friend told me about the keto diet and I researched it thoroughly, it’s been 3 days now with NO bread at all and I’m doing well. Has anyone else done this diet and had success on it? Pros and cons?
really are no cons except it's very restictive.
If all you cut out is bread you won't see much of a result.
Technically I meant all carbs, it’s a high fat low carb diet. Trying to stay under 30 carbs a day | |
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| I LOVE IT.
I've lost weight- better yet, I FEEL amazing. I also fast a good bit, too. The keto diet combined with fasting has helped me lose more than 50 lbs since July. I was sick of haunting this website so much and wanted to get my ass back in the saddle, but first it had to fit back in it!
I took a break from keto over Christmas and gained a few pounds back- I felt gross from the carbs- got back on keto a week and a half ago and am back down and have energy again :)
I was so skeptical at first because it is SO backwards from the traditional "dieting" mindset. But it is so worth it! I feel and look so much better and I swear I can even see better! Lol My husband says that it's like I'm on drugs.
I've learned that it is a complete lifestyle change and not a quick fix (even though I lost the weight fast). I had a few cheat days along the way and they set me back. I'm back on keto now and plan to be more dedicated- I don't have that much more weight to lose but I definitely want to keep feeling this awesome. | |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | That’s awesome that it got you back into riding!!!! I know it’s a very hard diet, believe me it sucked eating hamburger patties with cheese amd pickles with no buns but it’s so going to be worth it!! I even went to the gym after work tonight, did cardio for an hour so hopefully the diet will kick in faster!
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| I did it for about 6 weeks last winter. I did lose weight. I also felt like crud. Even after the initial “keto flu” period they talk about. I did think about doing it again this winter to shed some holiday lbs, but I just don’t think my body accepted it well. By the numbers I was doing everything correctly.
I try to keep my lean protein high and my carbs complex. I could do better, but I’m slowly getting back to my mid summer weight, so there’s that. | |
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| That's funny you mentioned that- that's EXACTLY what's on the menu tonight! Lol
Buy lots of almond flour! I've tried a few bread/muffin recipes with it and I've learned to love it. The best advice I can give- join all the Facebook support groups you can, especially the recipe pages. My newsfeed is clogged with keto posts that keep me motivated when I want to give in to a craving, and I'm ALWAYS finding new recipes to try.
The only 'con' I can think of is the cost of buying new clothes... or cleaning out your junk closet to find your old skinny jeans.
Good luck- stay the course- don't get on the scale every single day. I've tried to wrap my head around the fact that food should be fuel, not therapy, which goes against my years of bad habits. I'm excited for you! Keto on!
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Location: CTX | yes, started this time last year. I stayed under 20 carbs a day and lost 45lbs before summer. Since then I've been figuring out how much (or little) carbs I can safely eat and not gain anything back. So every now and then I will gain a couple of lbs, and I get a bit stricter and they come right off.
Just make sure you get enough protein, stay under 20 carbs a day and keep an eye on your fat intake.
Low carb high fat doesn't mean you can keep eating a lot of fat. All in moderation. If you find you stall, look at fat intake and adjust.
Something that helped me tremendously is to add EVERYTHING I eat/drink in the app myfitnesspal.
ETA, there are a bunch of facebook pages with information and recipes. Also if you have pintrest you will find a lot there.
The biggest thing I missed in the beginning was bread and pasta. There are a bunch of bread recipes with almond flour that taste alright. Haven't found anything to swap for pasta, but really don't miss it at all now.
good luck, and if you have questions let us know. There are plenty of people out there that can and will help!
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Location: USA | I'm about to start!! I researched a bunch of recipes to get me started and calculated what my macros should be and adjusted those settings in the myfitnesspal app so I can keep track of everything. I'm super excited to get started and shed this extra "fluff"!! | |
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| cranky B4 10am - 2018-01-17 6:26 PM
yes, started this time last year. I stayed under 20 carbs a day and lost 45lbs before summer. Since then I've been figuring out how much (or little) carbs I can safely eat and not gain anything back. So every now and then I will gain a couple of lbs, and I get a bit stricter and they come right off.
Just make sure you get enough protein, stay under 20 carbs a day and keep an eye on your fat intake.
Low carb high fat doesn't mean you can keep eating a lot of fat. All in moderation. If you find you stall, look at fat intake and adjust.
Something that helped me tremendously is to add EVERYTHING I eat/drink in the app myfitnesspal.
ETA, there are a bunch of facebook pages with information and recipes. Also if you have pintrest you will find a lot there.
The biggest thing I missed in the beginning was bread and pasta. There are a bunch of bread recipes with almond flour that taste alright. Haven't found anything to swap for pasta, but really don't miss it at all now.
good luck, and if you have questions let us know. There are plenty of people out there that can and will help!
Spiralized vegetables like zoodles (zucchini) and shredded baked spaghetti squash are not as tasty as real noodles, but when you add a meat sauce over them or stir fry them up, they're pretty hard to beat, IMO!
OP, there's a ton of keto recipes on Pinterest, if you ever get stuck in a rut repeating the same meals over and over!
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| Me... but I'm not a high fat Keto-er. I have found there are a few different versions of what is "keto" out there. I'm low carb/adequate protein/moderate fat and eating at a calorie deficit. Love it.. once you have the mindset, it honestly hasn't felt restrictive at all.
Someone up above mentioned feeling terrible/keto flu... it's electrolytes! Have to up your salt and sodium.. it's like magic. 
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | Dodge629 - 2018-01-18 9:22 AM
Me... but I'm not a high fat Keto-er. I have found there are a few different versions of what is "keto" out there. I'm low carb/adequate protein/moderate fat and eating at a calorie deficit. Love it.. once you have the mindset, it honestly hasn't felt restrictive at all.
Someone up above mentioned feeling terrible/keto flu... it's electrolytes! Have to up your salt and sodium.. it's like magic.
What Can I eat or take Daily to prevent getting the keto flu
Eta: I drink a lot of the Powerade zeros
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | RnRJack - 2018-01-18 11:12 AM Dodge629 - 2018-01-18 9:22 AM Me... but I'm not a high fat Keto-er. I have found there are a few different versions of what is "keto" out there. I'm low carb/adequate protein/moderate fat and eating at a calorie deficit. Love it.. once you have the mindset, it honestly hasn't felt restrictive at all.
Someone up above mentioned feeling terrible/keto flu... it's electrolytes! Have to up your salt and sodium.. it's like magic.
What Can I eat or take Daily to prevent getting the keto flu
Cinnamon Sugar Toast.
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| I was a Keto-er last year from February to August. I was hard core too- had the blood strip monitor and did 20 carbs or less with a high carb cycle day here and there. It wasn't for me, for the following reasons:
1) A lot of Keto recipes are heavy on dairy- sour cream, cream cheese, cheese etc. Made me feel bloated and yucky. You of course can do Keto without dairy- which is what I should have done. I also should have stayed away from processed meats. But again- so many Keto recipes are heavy on these items.
2) It changed my hormones DRAMATICALLY. I had no idea how much a low carb diet can affect your hormones until I started researching. I was moody, lots of other "hormonal" issues. I became allergic to foods that had never bothered me before. My Thyroid became enlarged and I had a lot of anxiety issues
3) I couldn't sleep and had a lot of issued with heart palpatations. Tried electrolytes, numerous supplements, several doctors visits hooked up to an EKG.
4) It severely affected my metabolism. After I quit Keto, I gained 20 lbs like THAT. I am just now getting my metabolism back after starting on some new products.
I do carry over some things I learned from Keto/Bulletproof diet: I always add collagen to my coffee in the morning, and cook with Kerrygold butter. I also stick to higher fat grassfed beef and use stevia only for sweetener. I am moreso back to Paleo and working out, I add several supplements in the mornign and at night and haven't felt better!
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| Just out of curiosity, I’ve done a little research on the Ketogenic diet and wasn’t impressed with what I found. Yes, it does help you lose body weight quickly, but it does not help you lose FAT.
The point of the ketogenic diet is to keep the body in a state of ketosis by eating low carb/high fat diet and when this happens your body supposedly becomes super-efficient at burning fat for energy and you can quickly drop 5-7lbs…
What you need to understand, is that after eating carbs, your body breaks them down to glucose, which enters the bloodstream and what isn’t used for energy is stored as glycogen in your liver and muscles. Glycogen is stored with 3-4 parts water, so every gram of glycogen stored in your liver and muscles comes with 3-4 grams of water. Depending on your diet and exercise levels, your body can store 300-700grams (or more) glycogen, add 2000g water with that and you get roughly 5.5lbs. Going on a keto diet and reducing carb intake reduces the whole body glycogen levels, which would flush out the large amount of water as well. This accounts for the rapid drop of body weight in first week or two – but it is NOT a rapid reduction in body fat.
The keto diet is basically just another low carb/high fat fad diet, which is totally unrealistic for long term use, unless you enjoy feeling like sh!t, depriving yourself, and not having any energy. Contrary to what is on Pinterest, you don’t turn into a keto fat blasting machine, and unfortunately, there are a lot of disadvantages to low carb/high fat diets:
It is easier to overeat on a low carb diet. Carbs have a significant impact on satiety, whereas dietary fats don’t. Eat a bunch of fibrous carbs and you will feel full for a quite a while. Eat a bunch of dietary fat and you won’t. Dietary fat is really energy dense too; it contains about 9 calories per gram compared to carbs 4 calories. So it is easy to see how you can over eat on a high-fat diet. Low carb dieters have more hunger issues and struggle more with controlling calorie intake vs high carb dieters. They also have problems with low energy levels as well. It is well known that low carb diets increase fatigue and perceived effort during exercise.
You build less muscle on a low carb diet because you reduce the amount of glycogen stored in the muscles and building muscle is the best way to lose weight! Also, when glycogen levels are low, post workout muscle repair is impaired.
If you look at professional sports, there are no low-carb diets - it’s because they suck for athletic performance. And I’m not just talking about just high performance athletes, it’s anyone that is involved in periods of low intensity and high intensity activity, which horse riding/training totally falls under.
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| RnRJack - 2018-01-18 9:12 AM Dodge629 - 2018-01-18 9:22 AM Me... but I'm not a high fat Keto-er. I have found there are a few different versions of what is "keto" out there. I'm low carb/adequate protein/moderate fat and eating at a calorie deficit. Love it.. once you have the mindset, it honestly hasn't felt restrictive at all.
Someone up above mentioned feeling terrible/keto flu... it's electrolytes! Have to up your salt and sodium.. it's like magic.
What Can I eat or take Daily to prevent getting the keto flu Eta: I drink a lot of the Powerade zeros
I love Powerade Zero but the amount of electrolytes in it is basically nothing compared to what you need. I've always liked salt anyway, so I salt my food as wanted and drink bouillon broth if I feel like I'm low. I've never had it bad, so that has been sufficient for me, but a lot of people salt their water or take supplements. | |
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| veintiocho - 2018-01-18 9:33 AM Just out of curiosity, I’ve done a little research on the Ketogenic diet and wasn’t impressed with what I found. Yes, it does help you lose body weight quickly, but it does not help you lose FAT. The point of the ketogenic diet is to keep the body in a state of ketosis by eating low carb/high fat diet and when this happens your body supposedly becomes super-efficient at burning fat for energy and you can quickly drop 5-7lbs… What you need to understand, is that after eating carbs, your body breaks them down to glucose, which enters the bloodstream and what isn’t used for energy is stored as glycogen in your liver and muscles. Glycogen is stored with 3-4 parts water, so every gram of glycogen stored in your liver and muscles comes with 3-4 grams of water. Depending on your diet and exercise levels, your body can store 300-700grams (or more) glycogen, add 2000g water with that and you get roughly 5.5lbs. Going on a keto diet and reducing carb intake reduces the whole body glycogen levels, which would flush out the large amount of water as well. This accounts for the rapid drop of body weight in first week or two – but it is NOT a rapid reduction in body fat. The keto diet is basically just another low carb/high fat fad diet, which is totally unrealistic for long term use, unless you enjoy feeling like sh!t, depriving yourself, and not having any energy. Contrary to what is on Pinterest, you don’t turn into a keto fat blasting machine, and unfortunately, there are a lot of disadvantages to low carb/high fat diets: It is easier to overeat on a low carb diet. Carbs have a significant impact on satiety, whereas dietary fats don’t. Eat a bunch of fibrous carbs and you will feel full for a quite a while. Eat a bunch of dietary fat and you won’t. Dietary fat is really energy dense too; it contains about 9 calories per gram compared to carbs 4 calories. So it is easy to see how you can over eat on a high-fat diet. Low carb dieters have more hunger issues and struggle more with controlling calorie intake vs high carb dieters. They also have problems with low energy levels as well. It is well known that low carb diets increase fatigue and perceived effort during exercise. You build less muscle on a low carb diet because you reduce the amount of glycogen stored in the muscles and building muscle is the best way to lose weight! Also, when glycogen levels are low, post workout muscle repair is impaired. If you look at professional sports, there are no low-carb diets - it’s because they suck for athletic performance. And I’m not just talking about just high performance athletes, it’s anyone that is involved in periods of low intensity and high intensity activity, which horse riding/training totally falls under.
This is all based on which "keto diet" you choose to follow. I don't follow a high fat diet period. And I've gone from needing to eat on a regular basis to "forgetting" to eat or unconsciously intermittent fasting because I feel satisfied 90% more than I ever did eating carbs. And I actually take in way less calories without feeling hungry. The Keto way of eating I do follows the science that if you have body fat to lose you do NOT need to eat more fat. You restrict carbs, eat adequate protein to maintain your muscle mass, and use fat as needed while eating at a healthy calorie deficit. More energy, no brain fog, no afternoon slump... | |
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| Dodge629 - 2018-01-18 10:41 AM
veintiocho - 2018-01-18 9:33 AM Just out of curiosity, I’ve done a little research on the Ketogenic diet and wasn’t impressed with what I found. Yes, it does help you lose body weight quickly, but it does not help you lose FAT. The point of the ketogenic diet is to keep the body in a state of ketosis by eating low carb/high fat diet and when this happens your body supposedly becomes super-efficient at burning fat for energy and you can quickly drop 5-7lbs… What you need to understand, is that after eating carbs, your body breaks them down to glucose, which enters the bloodstream and what isn’t used for energy is stored as glycogen in your liver and muscles. Glycogen is stored with 3-4 parts water, so every gram of glycogen stored in your liver and muscles comes with 3-4 grams of water. Depending on your diet and exercise levels, your body can store 300-700grams (or more) glycogen, add 2000g water with that and you get roughly 5.5lbs. Going on a keto diet and reducing carb intake reduces the whole body glycogen levels, which would flush out the large amount of water as well. This accounts for the rapid drop of body weight in first week or two – but it is NOT a rapid reduction in body fat. The keto diet is basically just another low carb/high fat fad diet, which is totally unrealistic for long term use, unless you enjoy feeling like sh!t, depriving yourself, and not having any energy. Contrary to what is on Pinterest, you don’t turn into a keto fat blasting machine, and unfortunately, there are a lot of disadvantages to low carb/high fat diets: It is easier to overeat on a low carb diet. Carbs have a significant impact on satiety, whereas dietary fats don’t. Eat a bunch of fibrous carbs and you will feel full for a quite a while. Eat a bunch of dietary fat and you won’t. Dietary fat is really energy dense too; it contains about 9 calories per gram compared to carbs 4 calories. So it is easy to see how you can over eat on a high-fat diet. Low carb dieters have more hunger issues and struggle more with controlling calorie intake vs high carb dieters. They also have problems with low energy levels as well. It is well known that low carb diets increase fatigue and perceived effort during exercise. You build less muscle on a low carb diet because you reduce the amount of glycogen stored in the muscles and building muscle is the best way to lose weight! Also, when glycogen levels are low, post workout muscle repair is impaired. If you look at professional sports, there are no low-carb diets - it’s because they suck for athletic performance. And I’m not just talking about just high performance athletes, it’s anyone that is involved in periods of low intensity and high intensity activity, which horse riding/training totally falls under.
This is all based on which "keto diet" you choose to follow. I don't follow a high fat diet period. And I've gone from needing to eat on a regular basis to "forgetting" to eat or unconsciously intermittent fasting because I feel satisfied 90% more than I ever did eating carbs. And I actually take in way less calories without feeling hungry. The Keto way of eating I do follows the science that if you have body fat to lose you do NOT need to eat more fat. You restrict carbs, eat adequate protein to maintain your muscle mass, and use fat as needed while eating at a healthy calorie deficit. More energy, no brain fog, no afternoon slump...
Do you mind if I ask what % your carb/fats/proteins are at currently? What is your daily meal plan look like? | |
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Location: North Dakota | RnRJack - 2018-01-17 4:40 PM Realized after this weekend I need to make some major changes, I have a 14.3 hand horse that is very quick and catty and if I want to be able to really reach her potential I need to shed some lbs and get stronger in my core. My friend told me about the keto diet and I researched it thoroughly, it’s been 3 days now with NO bread at all and I’m doing well. Has anyone else done this diet and had success on it? Pros and cons?
Ultimately, you need to find something that works for you and something you can stick with long term. Diet changes need to be lifestyle changes ... or you'll fall off the wagon eventually again!
In all honesty, it's just about eating clean. And teaching yourself WHY you are making certain food choices and how it affects your body.
I know someone who has been very successful with the keto diet. Again, if something does work for you and you can stick it out, great. Do it.
I found great success with the 21 Day Fix when I needed to lose the baby weight after my first pregnancy. (Currently pregnant with #2 and will be doing the same thing this time around!) I'd say it's pretty low carb too because that is where a lot of your calories will come from, but the bigger thing was how CLEAN you ate and WHAT you ate .... and WHEN. Lots of protein from good sources, also making sure you got your good fats, lots of veggies, limit fruit (they are sugary, after all), and limit carbs (and only eat the "good" ones).
Of course, I did the 21 Day Fix longer than 21 days but I've never felt so GOOD in my life. I wasn't hungry, and I had tons of energy, and just plain felt good. It actually made me crave continuing to make good food choices, because I could tell if I ate something out of the norm because I wouldn't feel good after.
I was lighter that I had been since high school (although the number on the scale didn't matter to much for me) but my pre-pregnancy jeans and clothes were too loose. It probably took me a good year to attain it, but slow and steady is the key!
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Location: TEXAS | When my husband was doing this, he came up with Gout in his big toe. turns out after more research, lack of carbs causes many problems, gout being one of them. Our body needs carbs and unless you plan on having the will power to do it the rest of your life, it will all come back the minute you stop. Watching your carb intake is good, anything in excess isn't good for you and will cause weight gain. Exercise and eating right if the best rule of thumb.
You can also check out lifewave patches they have to curb cravings and appetite. I love their products for people and horses!!
https://lifewave.com/corporphan/store/product/38001.022.001/?categoryViewname=patches | |
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