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| How does it work? I know they are most worried about money. There is a local killpen that has a horse I like. Are they ever negotiable on price? I know how they pedal horses and make money, I don't care that they make a few hundred off of me, I just wondered if I would get ran out of there if i showed up and offered them less than she is listed for... |
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Location: Dubach, LA | Around here I would say no. Most of the kill pens have rescues that are willing to pay the price that they ask. Which pen?
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | I would say it couldnt hurt to try?? i know they are all out to make a buck but they also want the horses gone too. If they know they can get more from a meat buyer theyll turn you away. But, cash talks. Id go offer what you think shes worse but be prepared with what they are asking if you really want her. Good luck ! |
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| She’s in the Stroud kill pen. Supposed to ship today at 4p. I have an appointment to be there at 1. She’s out of the same sire as my gelding. I know 1/2 of her story because I know who originally owned her as a foal. I know the man gave her to a lady as a foal but I don’t know what happened after that. I know the man that trained her dam on the race track. He said she was nuts but in the video from the kill pen the filly is being handled by a kid. We shall see... |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | RoaniePonie11 - 2018-02-05 6:41 AM She’s in the Stroud kill pen. Supposed to ship today at 4p. I have an appointment to be there at 1. She’s out of the same sire as my gelding. I know 1/2 of her story because I know who originally owned her as a foal. I know the man gave her to a lady as a foal but I don’t know what happened after that. I know the man that trained her dam on the race track. He said she was nuts but in the video from the kill pen the filly is being handled by a kid. We shall see...
Good Luck. Always remember that there are some, not all, kill pens that will dope horses for videos and visits. Please be careful. When working with the horse please think about wearing a helmet for the first few sessions. There are reasons horses end up in the kill pen 9 times out of 10. A good vet check and some ground work will tell you all you need to know about why she ended up there.  |
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Location: Henryetta, OK | It is hard to tell when a mare has been drugged. Look at her lower lip. Too bad you could not have just showed up. Good luck. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-05 8:46 AM RoaniePonie11 - 2018-02-05 6:41 AM She’s in the Stroud kill pen. Supposed to ship today at 4p. I have an appointment to be there at 1. She’s out of the same sire as my gelding. I know 1/2 of her story because I know who originally owned her as a foal. I know the man gave her to a lady as a foal but I don’t know what happened after that. I know the man that trained her dam on the race track. He said she was nuts but in the video from the kill pen the filly is being handled by a kid. We shall see... Good Luck. Always remember that there are some, not all, kill pens that will dope horses for videos and visits. Please be careful. When working with the horse please think about wearing a helmet for the first few sessions. There are reasons horses end up in the kill pen 9 times out of 10. A good vet check and some ground work will tell you all you need to know about why she ended up there.
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| I know our local killpen does not negotiate but I bet some do. Be observant when you're there, check for paste or dried blood on the neck. I definitely recognize a lot end up there for a reason but a lot don't. I have seen quite a few whos owners were just irresponsible. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Please let us know how it went. |
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| Tootsie isn't going to sell you a drugged horse. They're alright people. And while you're there check out their tack shop. |
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| So I did not go look at the filly today... I cancelled. Had my vet watch the video of her trotting and he said she was off. Guess that’s why she’s there :( |
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Location: Texas | Please please please please PLEASE keep in mind that horses at kill pens are often times sick with contagious infections that you can bring back to your farm. Things don't always end well.
In my short baby vet career so far, I have already euthanized several horses from the kill pens with severe respiratory disease, ranging from shipping fever that has gone septic to strangles that turned into purpura.
Horses from kill pens can be great and rewarding, but please go into it knowing even if you pick up a horse that appears well and not sick on the day you get it, a week or so later or even longer they can become critically ill and require thousands of dollars in intensive veterinary care to save them. And some of them are already sick and are coughing with nasal discharge when you unload them at your house.. I am sure after this response, there will be plenty on here who say "OMG this is a dramatic doomsday response...I've rescued horses from the kill pen and nothing like this happened at all!" But it does happen, and everyone so far that I have encountered as clients have been shocked that this was a possibility.
I'm not even going to touch on the moral and ethical issues behind kill pen horses and the dynamics of that industry. But I will say, expect a vet bill if you ever are getting one from the kill pen. And know you better quarantine that horse and take the quarantine seriously before you introduce it to your other horses. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | I don't see how this could possibly go wrong.
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Keep in mind the above like you said they are making money off you but yes they wheel and deal
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| casualdust07 - 2018-02-05 6:05 PM
Please please please please PLEASE keep in mind that horses at kill pens are often times sick with contagious infections that you can bring back to your farm. Things don't always end well.
In my short baby vet career so far, I have already euthanized several horses from the kill pens with severe respiratory disease, ranging from shipping fever that has gone septic to strangles that turned into purpura.
Horses from kill pens can be great and rewarding, but please go into it knowing even if you pick up a horse that appears well and not sick on the day you get it, a week or so later or even longer they can become critically ill and require thousands of dollars in intensive veterinary care to save them. And some of them are already sick and are coughing with nasal discharge when you unload them at your house.. I am sure after this response, there will be plenty on here who say "OMG this is a dramatic doomsday response...I've rescued horses from the kill pen and nothing like this happened at all!" But it does happen, and everyone so far that I have encountered as clients have been shocked that this was a possibility.
I'm not even going to touch on the moral and ethical issues behind kill pen horses and the dynamics of that industry. But I will say, expect a vet bill if you ever are getting one from the kill pen. And know you better quarantine that horse and take the quarantine seriously before you introduce it to your other horses.
Great advice and information. I think many buyers are just looking to save a horse, but forget that they could have serious health issues. |
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