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| I still have my horse, which I am very happy about! Just wanted to ask some advice on his saddle and how it fits. Thank you!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | emricmacy - 2018-02-07 3:46 PM
I still have my horse, which I am very happy about! Just wanted to ask some advice on his saddle and how it fits. Thank you!
Your saddle is sitting to far forward and with it sitting on his withers I say it dont fit with a darn. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | What brand is that saddle and what tree is in it? | |
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| Yikes, that saddle is going to make his back sore! If those are FQH bars I’d try something with semi bars. Good luck! | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | emricmacy - 2018-02-07 4:35 PM
Circle Y The Proven
Do you know if the tree is a standard are a wide? It looks like a wide to me from the pictures. | |
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| I'm not sure! How do I measure? I would really like to become more knowledgeable about saddle fitting! I don't know what kind of saddle he needs..   | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | emricmacy - 2018-02-07 5:06 PM
I'm not sure! How do I measure? I would really like to become more knowledgeable about saddle fitting! I don't know what kind of saddle he needs..
You need to get the serial numbers off the saddle and call Circle Y and ask them what tree it has..But this saddle does not fit your horse. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Can you get the serial number off your saddle and I will see if I can look it up for you, are you can do it theres a place on Circle Y's web site that you can do this on. | |
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| Website said they closed at 5..but I will call tomorrow morning..How do I even go about finding a saddle that fits? There are no tack shops remotely close to me that sell saddles. I see a lot of used saddles on Facebook, but how would I even know if they fit or not? I have thought about Corriente's also, but again, how do you know if it will fit?
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| veintiocho - 2018-02-07 4:55 PM
Yikes, that saddle is going to make his back sore! If those are FQH bars I’d try something with semi bars. Good luck!
How do I know if it's Full QH bars or Semi? | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | emricmacy - 2018-02-07 5:12 PM
Website said they closed at 5..but I will call tomorrow morning..How do I even go about finding a saddle that fits? There are no tack shops remotely close to me that sell saddles. I see a lot of used saddles on Facebook, but how would I even know if they fit or not? I have thought about Corriente's also, but again, how do you know if it will fit?
Post a recent picture of your horse without a saddle so we can see what he looks like without a saddle. But I'm betting he needs just a standard fitting tree, but really it just depends on the brand of saddle and theres just so many out there. | |
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| These are from last week! Thank you VERY much for helping! I can't afford much for another saddle, but like I said, I do see a lot on Facebook for $500 or less, and Corriente's might work, I just don't want to buy something again and have it not fit. His withers are more pronounced. I hopped on him bareback yesterday and it was not comfortable.
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Location: Montana | PM me the serial number or post it and I can try to help you out. I used to own a couple Circle Y The Proven saddles, and I may be able to help. They also have a serial number lookup online, you don't need to call them.
But it is sitting on his withers, so you probably need a narrower saddle, and/or a different bar angle. But I would move it back too, its too far forward.
ETA: I just noticed you said he has more pronounced withers...so does my grey gelding (look at my post from about a week ago about saddle fit, might help a little). So, what I'm doing with my saddle (because it isn't awful, but not perfect) is I'm going to start with using a Classic Equine Biofit pad. But its not sitting as low on his withers, as your's is. But I would say you need a narrower saddle. Do you have anyone's saddle that you can try before buying?
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| mtcanchazer - 2018-02-07 6:01 PM
PM me the serial number or post it and I can try to help you out. I used to own a couple Circle Y The Proven saddles, and I may be able to help. They also have a serial number lookup online, you don't need to call them.
But it is sitting on his withers, so you probably need a narrower saddle, and/or a different bar angle. But I would move it back too, its too far forward.
ETA: I just noticed you said he has more pronounced withers...so does my grey gelding (look at my post from about a week ago about saddle fit, might help a little). So, what I'm doing with my saddle (because it isn't awful, but not perfect) is I'm going to start with using a Classic Equine Biofit pad. But its not sitting as low on his withers, as your's is. But I would say you need a narrower saddle. Do you have anyone's saddle that you can try before buying?
Saddle is at the barn, but I will go tomorrow and see if I can find the serial #..
I don't know anyone around me with a saddle I could try..I have no one!..
I see so many on Facebook, but how would I even know if it would fit him?! What does the gullet have to do with fit? | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If you can try to find a older Martha Joesy barrel saddle to try, they seem to fit alot of horses. Her saddles are made by Circle Y, but I like the older model's not the newier ones. | |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-02-07 8:43 PM
If you can try to find a older Martha Joesy barrel saddle to try, they seem to fit alot of horses. Her saddles are made by Circle Y, but I like the older model's not the newier ones.
What is considered an older model? | |
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Location: Montana | emricmacy - 2018-02-07 5:18 PM mtcanchazer - 2018-02-07 6:01 PM PM me the serial number or post it and I can try to help you out. I used to own a couple Circle Y The Proven saddles, and I may be able to help. They also have a serial number lookup online, you don't need to call them.
But it is sitting on his withers, so you probably need a narrower saddle, and/or a different bar angle. But I would move it back too, its too far forward.
ETA: I just noticed you said he has more pronounced withers...so does my grey gelding (look at my post from about a week ago about saddle fit, might help a little). So, what I'm doing with my saddle (because it isn't awful, but not perfect) is I'm going to start with using a Classic Equine Biofit pad. But its not sitting as low on his withers, as your's is. But I would say you need a narrower saddle. Do you have anyone's saddle that you can try before buying? Saddle is at the barn, but I will go tomorrow and see if I can find the serial #.. I don't know anyone around me with a saddle I could try..I have no one!.. I see so many on Facebook, but how would I even know if it would fit him?! What does the gullet have to do with fit?
Where are you located? I have an older Courts saddle (the one in the pic on my posts) and while it isn't a terrific fit on my two now, it isn't terrible and can be made usable with the right pad. You could try looking into something like that...I think you could find one fairly reasonably ($600 to $800). My trainer used to ride in the Sharon Camarillo Courts saddles all the time! Mine is not a Camarillo.
Gullet is a bit of a discussion on here...you will hear A LOT about that. Some say bar angle is what you need, not necessarily gullet width. Others will say their horse fits "x" gullet. Personally, I go with both. The bar angle is important, but if your gullet width is too narrow or wide, it still isn't a correct fit. On average, though, I have had better luck with a 7" gullet, although my grey horse I think could easily do a 6.5" or 6.75" gullet. Because I can't justify another saddle right now, I'm going to pad up my Courts with the 7" gullet. Sometimes, its like finding a needle a haystack to find a saddle that fits you and your horse, just right, and sometimes you can find one that works, may not be perfect, but works. | |
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| mtcanchazer - 2018-02-07 9:44 PM
emricmacy - 2018-02-07 5:18 PM mtcanchazer - 2018-02-07 6:01 PM PM me the serial number or post it and I can try to help you out. I used to own a couple Circle Y The Proven saddles, and I may be able to help. They also have a serial number lookup online, you don't need to call them.
But it is sitting on his withers, so you probably need a narrower saddle, and/or a different bar angle. But I would move it back too, its too far forward.
ETA: I just noticed you said he has more pronounced withers...so does my grey gelding (look at my post from about a week ago about saddle fit, might help a little). So, what I'm doing with my saddle (because it isn't awful, but not perfect) is I'm going to start with using a Classic Equine Biofit pad. But its not sitting as low on his withers, as your's is. But I would say you need a narrower saddle. Do you have anyone's saddle that you can try before buying? Saddle is at the barn, but I will go tomorrow and see if I can find the serial #.. I don't know anyone around me with a saddle I could try..I have no one!.. I see so many on Facebook, but how would I even know if it would fit him?! What does the gullet have to do with fit?
Gullet is a bit of a discussion on here...you will hear A LOT about that. Some say bar angle is what you need, not necessarily gullet width. Others will say their horse fits "x" gullet. Personally, I go with both. The bar angle is important, but if your gullet width is too narrow or wide, it still isn't a correct fit. On average, though, I have had better luck with a 7" gullet, although my grey horse I think could easily do a 6.5" or 6.75" gullet. Because I can't justify another saddle right now, I'm going to pad up my Courts with the 7" gullet. Sometimes, its like finding a needle a haystack to find a saddle that fits you and your horse, just right, and sometimes you can find one that works, may not be perfect, but works.
I'm in Vermont. I'm going to go to the barn and get the serial number this morning. There are TONS on Facebook, and I hate that I guess it's just a guessing game on if it will fit or not? How do you know if you need a 7in gullet or something else? I'm going to measure what I have right now. My saddle looks pretty wide to me. I found a SQHB Martha Josey for $750 on FB. She said it's their regular tree, which I don't know what that means. I will try to attach a picture of it.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | emricmacy - 2018-02-08 6:40 AM
mtcanchazer - 2018-02-07 9:44 PM
emricmacy - 2018-02-07 5:18 PM mtcanchazer - 2018-02-07 6:01 PM PM me the serial number or post it and I can try to help you out. I used to own a couple Circle Y The Proven saddles, and I may be able to help. They also have a serial number lookup online, you don't need to call them.
But it is sitting on his withers, so you probably need a narrower saddle, and/or a different bar angle. But I would move it back too, its too far forward.
ETA: I just noticed you said he has more pronounced withers...so does my grey gelding (look at my post from about a week ago about saddle fit, might help a little). So, what I'm doing with my saddle (because it isn't awful, but not perfect) is I'm going to start with using a Classic Equine Biofit pad. But its not sitting as low on his withers, as your's is. But I would say you need a narrower saddle. Do you have anyone's saddle that you can try before buying? Saddle is at the barn, but I will go tomorrow and see if I can find the serial #.. I don't know anyone around me with a saddle I could try..I have no one!.. I see so many on Facebook, but how would I even know if it would fit him?! What does the gullet have to do with fit?
Gullet is a bit of a discussion on here...you will hear A LOT about that. Some say bar angle is what you need, not necessarily gullet width. Others will say their horse fits "x" gullet. Personally, I go with both. The bar angle is important, but if your gullet width is too narrow or wide, it still isn't a correct fit. On average, though, I have had better luck with a 7" gullet, although my grey horse I think could easily do a 6.5" or 6.75" gullet. Because I can't justify another saddle right now, I'm going to pad up my Courts with the 7" gullet. Sometimes, its like finding a needle a haystack to find a saddle that fits you and your horse, just right, and sometimes you can find one that works, may not be perfect, but works.
I'm in Vermont. I'm going to go to the barn and get the serial number this morning. There are TONS on Facebook, and I hate that I guess it's just a guessing game on if it will fit or not? How do you know if you need a 7in gullet or something else? I'm going to measure what I have right now. My saddle looks pretty wide to me. I found a SQHB Martha Josey for $750 on FB. She said it's their regular tree, which I don't know what that means. I will try to attach a picture of it.
Yep this is the saddle I was hoping that you would find, they fit horses really well with the higher withers and narrower shoulders, I like these saddles that were made around the year that this saddle was made and this was made before Circle Y was sold and then they started using cheaper leather and shortcuts on making their saddles. I have had 3 of them back in 1998 threw 2009, I regret selling them.. Still hoping one day I will come across one of them, lol..That saddle you are showing is a very well made saddle, hope it works for you.. But unfortunately sometimes they dont work on all horses. | |
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