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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-02-20 1:27 PM
Subject: Buy backs at American slack?



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 I guess buy backs are new this year.  Do all events have buybacks?

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2018-02-20 2:04 PM
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 There will be one spot to the Semi Finals performances per every 50 buy backs in each event. So 1 – 50 entries will include one spot, 51 – 100 will advance 2 spots, and so on. Only positions that are moving on to the Semi Finals performances will be paid, and each paying hole will receive $1000 each.

Breaking it down by event, in the tie down roping and steer wrestling, a contestant can enter up to 3 times with $375 entry fees. It will be one round plus a top 15 short go. Or if fewer than 50 entries, it will be a top 10 short go.

In the team roping, each team can enter up to 3 times, but each team may only have one spot in the performances. The entry will be $375 per man, per entry, which is $750 per team. The team roping will be two rounds plus a top 15 short go, or if fewer than 50 teams, it will be a top 10 short go.

Barrel racers can enter two times at $375 dollars per entr, and every entry must be on a horse that the contestant had participated on in the Semi Finals slack round. The barrel racing will be one round only.

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2018-02-20 2:05 PM
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And the barrels have now switched to RFD-TV at 2 PM  
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-02-20 2:07 PM
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What is leading slack?
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2018-02-20 2:08 PM
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Β  wow I totally read that wrong. What an idiot I am lol!
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2018-02-20 2:10 PM
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-20 2:07 PM

What is leading slack?

Β Wisconsin's Kricket Gintner with a 13.71
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2018-02-20 2:11 PM
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-20 2:07 PM What is leading slack?

I think a 13.7 is leading it but I have not been watching consistently and I have no idea who it was....I think right now, you have to be under 14.1 for the top 30 ......there have been a LOT of barrrels down .... 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-02-20 2:17 PM
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NJJ - 2018-02-20 2:04 PM

Β There will be one spot to the Semi Finals performances per every 50 buy backs in each event. So 1 – 50 entries will include one spot, 51 – 100 will advance 2 spots, and so on. Only positions that are moving on to the Semi Finals performances will be paid, and each paying hole will receive $1000 each.

Breaking it down by event, in the tie down roping and steer wrestling, a contestant can enter up to 3 times with $375 entry fees. It will be one round plus a top 15 short go. Or if fewer than 50 entries, it will be a top 10 short go.

In the team roping, each team can enter up to 3 times, but each team may only have one spot in the performances. The entry will be $375 per man, per entry, which is $750 per team. The team roping will be two rounds plus a top 15 short go, or if fewer than 50 teams, it will be a top 10 short go.

Barrel racers can enter two times at $375 dollars per entr, and every entry must be on a horse that the contestant had participated on in the Semi Finals slack round. The barrel racing will be one round only.

Barrel Racing Buy Back
Thursday, Feb. 22, 8AM
Location - Cowtown Coliseum, Fort Worth, TX

So if your buyback is in the top 30 but you are second fastest of the buybacks and less than 50 buybacks you don’t advance?
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-02-20 2:30 PM
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-20 2:07 PM What is leading slack?

I think a 13.7 is leading it but I have not been watching consistently and I have no idea who it was....I think right now, you have to be under 14.1 for the top 30 ......there have been a LOT of barrrels down ....Β 

Yeah with the good ones the biggest issue is gonna be down barrels especially in that trap!
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2018-02-20 2:34 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2018-02-20 2:17 PM
NJJ - 2018-02-20 2:04 PM  There will be one spot to the Semi Finals performances per every 50 buy backs in each event. So 1 – 50 entries will include one spot, 51 – 100 will advance 2 spots, and so on. Only positions that are moving on to the Semi Finals performances will be paid, and each paying hole will receive $1000 each.

Breaking it down by event, in the tie down roping and steer wrestling, a contestant can enter up to 3 times with $375 entry fees. It will be one round plus a top 15 short go. Or if fewer than 50 entries, it will be a top 10 short go.

In the team roping, each team can enter up to 3 times, but each team may only have one spot in the performances. The entry will be $375 per man, per entry, which is $750 per team. The team roping will be two rounds plus a top 15 short go, or if fewer than 50 teams, it will be a top 10 short go.

Barrel racers can enter two times at $375 dollars per entr, and every entry must be on a horse that the contestant had participated on in the Semi Finals slack round. The barrel racing will be one round only.

Barrel Racing Buy Back
Thursday, Feb. 22, 8AM
Location - Cowtown Coliseum, Fort Worth, TX
So if your buyback is in the top 30 but you are second fastest of the buybacks and less than 50 buybacks you don’t advance?
My understanding is that for every 50 "Buybacks" in the event ...one spot will be added to the Semi Finals making 31 advancing ....100 Buybacks and there would be another spot added (32) and 150 (33) and so on. The "buy backs" will run a separate race on Thursday morning to determine who and how many will advance.  

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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-02-20 2:54 PM
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NJJ - 2018-02-20 2:34 PM
rodeomom3 - 2018-02-20 2:17 PM
NJJ - 2018-02-20 2:04 PM  There will be one spot to the Semi Finals performances per every 50 buy backs in each event. So 1 – 50 entries will include one spot, 51 – 100 will advance 2 spots, and so on. Only positions that are moving on to the Semi Finals performances will be paid, and each paying hole will receive $1000 each.



Breaking it down by event, in the tie down roping and steer wrestling, a contestant can enter up to 3 times with $375 entry fees. It will be one round plus a top 15 short go. Or if fewer than 50 entries, it will be a top 10 short go.



In the team roping, each team can enter up to 3 times, but each team may only have one spot in the performances. The entry will be $375 per man, per entry, which is $750 per team. The team roping will be two rounds plus a top 15 short go, or if fewer than 50 teams, it will be a top 10 short go.



Barrel racers can enter two times at $375 dollars per entr, and every entry must be on a horse that the contestant had participated on in the Semi Finals slack round. The barrel racing will be one round only.



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Location - Cowtown Coliseum, Fort Worth, TX
So if your buyback is in the top 30 but you are second fastest of the buybacks and less than 50 buybacks you don’t advance?
My understanding is that for every 50 "Buybacks" in the event ...one spot will be added to the Semi Finals making 31 advancing ....100 Buybacks and there would be another spot added (32) and 150 (33) and so on. The "buy backs" will run a separate race on Thursday morning to determine who and how many will advance.  

 Gotcha, so no one gets bumped but the other parameters apply-the # of buybacks determine how many get back in.   I am glad no one gets bumped out.
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Kay-DRacing.
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2018-02-20 3:12 PM
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WOW. They will be making a fortune off of these buy backs....

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BS Hauler
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2018-02-20 6:43 PM
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 Now you get the reason for it.
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joemama
Reg. Feb 2018
Posted 2018-02-20 7:36 PM
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Thats a lot of coin for the one best time out of 50.
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2018-02-21 8:27 AM
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Seems to be the question of ....Were the "buybacks" a part of the original rules or IF the American changed the rules mid-stream .... I can't find anything about "Buybacks" in the original rules on the BBR .....  
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-02-21 8:54 AM
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NJJ - 2018-02-21 8:27 AM

Seems to be the question of ....Were the "buybacks" aΒ part of the original rules or IF the American changed the rulesΒ mid-stream .... I can't find anything about "Buybacks" in the original rules on the BBR ..... Β 

They've kinda always made up the rules as they go every year. So it is not a big deal and buy backs were added a few months ago.
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-02-21 8:58 AM
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joemama - 2018-02-20 7:36 PM

Thats a lot of coin for the one best time out of 50.

42,000 for a chance at the top 3

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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2018-02-21 9:10 AM
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 9:54 AM
NJJ - 2018-02-21 8:27 AM Seems to be the question of ....Were the "buybacks" a part of the original rules or IF the American changed the rules mid-stream .... I can't find anything about "Buybacks" in the original rules on the BBR .....  
They've kinda always made up the rules as they go every year. So it is not a big deal and buy backs were added a few months ago.

It is a big deal if it wasn't in the original rules before the first entry was accepted for a qualifier.  If you know the rules then you make a decision on whether to run or not.  Just like added money/fees/ etc at a regular race. 

Lots of people might have entered a qualifier if they knew that from the beginning.  Self doubt is a big killer of dreams.  If you knew you could do a buy back, you might have entered. 

It could be a problem if a buy back displaces someone who didn't buy back  and they win the huge prize, and the original rules were not in place.   
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2018-02-21 9:11 AM
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Kay-DRacing. - 2018-02-20 3:12 PM

WOW. They will be making a fortune off of these buy backs....

Exactly why team ropings have been doing them for years LOL
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runfastturnsmooth
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-02-21 9:19 AM
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 9:54 AM
NJJ - 2018-02-21 8:27 AM Seems to be the question of ....Were the "buybacks" a part of the original rules or IF the American changed the rules mid-stream .... I can't find anything about "Buybacks" in the original rules on the BBR .....  
They've kinda always made up the rules as they go every year. So it is not a big deal and buy backs were added a few months ago.
It is a big deal if it wasn't in the original rules before the first entry was accepted for a qualifier.  If you know the rules then you make a decision on whether to run or not.  Just like added money/fees/ etc at a regular race. 



Lots of people might have entered a qualifier if they knew that from the beginning.  Self doubt is a big killer of dreams.  If you knew you could do a buy back, you might have entered. 



It could be a problem if a buy back displaces someone who didn't buy back  and they win the huge prize, and the original rules were not in place.   

You can't displace anyone? The ones that have made it made it and will run in a performance. 

They had I think like 5 qualifers were the buy back was already in place.  Some other things they've added as they went the previous years was qualify run horse run a different, pros can decline and exemption to run at a chance for the million, qualifying more than one horse the first year.  None of these things were ever stated in black and white when it started but added later. 

It used to be like a set number of qualifers now there are more than enough chances.  I'm in favor of the buy backs tho,  usually its just more money in the pot. 
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