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I have a 4 year old futurity horse that has been having the weirdest soundness issues lately then all of a sudden started stopping and turning right before first barrel when that has always been her money barrel she would nail it every time. I moved from Colorado to Texas about 6 weeks ago and before I left Colorado her back and hamstrings were really tight so I had PEMF therapy done a couple times. After I got down to Texas about a week later I think she tied up on me. (Yes she was already on daily electrolytes and has access to a salt block since before we left Colorado) I went to go clean out waters and she was standing in the middle of her pen pawing aggressively then she stopped with her head down and her leg stretched forwards and her eyes closed and wobbled for a good 30 seconds before starting to paw again. I went to take her temp and when I lifted her blanket the right side of her hindquarters were tensed up and twitching really bad. I took her to the vet and her blood work came back normal her muscle enzymes may have been just slightly elevated. She was put on fluids and the vet said she colicked. But she was never off of food or water and had been going to the bathroom completely normally and wasn’t acting colicky to me at all. The next week she got an abscess I took her in and they did X-rays just to be sure that’s all it was because it wasn’t one we could really see because it was in the bulb of her heel. Her feet look great in X-ray and I got the abscess cleared up. I took her back into the vet because her back is still sore and she just doesn’t seem as powerful in her turns as usual. She was flexion tested positive on the stifle so they X-rayed stifles and those looked good and they couldn’t feel any fluid in them. They said it could be the SI but we decided to try some acupuncture and run her on Robaxin. A few days later she went to a barrel race and ran right at the top with some TOUGH horses. But I went back to the vet the next day because her back was still just hurting her. There was a different vet looking at her and completely out of nowhere he says she has EPM. She does stand camped out in the back end sometimes and she does walk a little camped out sometimes. When she gets into the trailer or walks over something she puts one foot at a time with her front feet then bunny hops with her back feet but other than that she hasn’t showed me any signs at all. She doesn’t stumble. The night before she ran with very high level horses without an issue so I kinda had a hard time believing him. He said horses that have it have a higher chance of “colic” and abscesses. But I started her on the medication (something that starts with a t in DMSO. I’d have to go look at the bottle). 4 days later out of nowhere she starts acting like she’s going to bite your head off if you touch anywhere under her belly from between her front legs all the way to between her back legs. I had a deep tissue massage and chiropractor done on her because her back problem was still there and I started giving her zesterra because I thought maybe her stomach was hurting. Her back was FINALLY better and didn’t seem like it’s bothering her at all anymore. I went to make a run the next day and she just shut down HARD and turned before first barrel. I exhibitioned her the exact same as always and I rode her like I always do. I ran her the next day and I was pushing he past first I was still sitting forward and two handed and she did the same thing again. I took her to a different arena a few days later that was pretty open behind first and I got her around it but I was pulling her off of it and kicking with my inside leg and doing everything I could and we still hit it. This is very unlike her and for a 4 year old she is very consistent and always very honest. It’s got to be some soundness thing going on. The blood test for EPM came back and my vet said it was 55%. She doesn’t try to bite my head off anymore touching under her belly but she still definitely isn’t happy about it. I am at a complete loss on what to do.
First video is of her ducking. Second video was taken just over a week earlier and was how her first consistently was prior to her ducking it.
https://youtu.be/LJe6j_tO9_4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=urUp0lFTwpc
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| kk_sue - 2018-03-15 1:08 PM
I have a 4 year old futurity horse that has been having the weirdest soundness issues lately then all of a sudden started stopping and turning right before first barrel when that has always been her money barrel she would nail it every time.
I moved from Colorado to Texas about 6 weeks ago and before I left Colorado her back and hamstrings were really tight so I had PEMF therapy done a couple times. After I got down to Texas about a week later I think she tied up on me. (Yes she was already on daily electrolytes and has access to a salt block since before we left Colorado) I went to go clean out waters and she was standing in the middle of her pen pawing aggressively then she stopped with her head down and her leg stretched forwards and her eyes closed and wobbled for a good 30 seconds before starting to paw again. I went to take her temp and when I lifted her blanket the right side of her hindquarters were tensed up and twitching really bad. I took her to the vet and her blood work came back normal her muscle enzymes may have been just slightly elevated. She was put on fluids and the vet said she colicked. But she was never off of food or water and had been going to the bathroom completely normally and wasn’t acting colicky to me at all.
The next week she got an abscess I took her in and they did X-rays just to be sure that’s all it was because it wasn’t one we could really see because it was in the bulb of her heel. Her feet look great in X-ray and I got the abscess cleared up. I took her back into the vet because her back is still sore and she just doesn’t seem as powerful in her turns as usual. She was flexion tested positive on the stifle so they X-rayed stifles and those looked good and they couldn’t feel any fluid in them. They said it could be the SI but we decided to try some acupuncture and run her on Robaxin.
A few days later she went to a barrel race and ran right at the top with some TOUGH horses. But I went back to the vet the next day because her back was still just hurting her. There was a different vet looking at her and completely out of nowhere he says she has EPM. She does stand camped out in the back end sometimes and she does walk a little camped out sometimes. When she gets into the trailer or walks over something she puts one foot at a time with her front feet then bunny hops with her back feet but other than that she hasn’t showed me any signs at all. She doesn’t stumble. The night before she ran with very high level horses without an issue so I kinda had a hard time believing him. He said horses that have it have a higher chance of “colic” and abscesses. But I started her on the medication (something that starts with a t in DMSO. I’d have to go look at the bottle). 4 days later out of nowhere she starts acting like she’s going to bite your head off if you touch anywhere under her belly from between her front legs all the way to between her back legs. I had a deep tissue massage and chiropractor done on her because her back problem was still there and I started giving her zesterra because I thought maybe her stomach was hurting. Her back was FINALLY better and didn’t seem like it’s bothering her at all anymore. I went to make a run the next day and she just shut down HARD and turned before first barrel. I exhibitioned her the exact same as always and I rode her like I always do. I ran her the next day and I was pushing he past first I was still sitting forward and two handed and she did the same thing again. I took her to a different arena a few days later that was pretty open behind first and I got her around it but I was pulling her off of it and kicking with my inside leg and doing everything I could and we still hit it. This is very unlike her and for a 4 year old she is very consistent and always very honest.
It’s got to be some soundness thing going on. She doesn’t try to bite my head off anymore touching under her belly but she still definitely isn’t happy about it. I am at a complete loss on what to do.
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| kk_sue - 2018-03-15 11:08 AM
I have a 4 year old futurity horse that has been having the weirdest soundness issues lately then all of a sudden started stopping and turning right before first barrel when that has always been her money barrel she would nail it every time. I moved from Colorado to Texas about 6 weeks ago and before I left Colorado her back and hamstrings were really tight so I had PEMF therapy done a couple times. After I got down to Texas about a week later I think she tied up on me. (Yes she was already on daily electrolytes and has access to a salt block since before we left Colorado) I went to go clean out waters and she was standing in the middle of her pen pawing aggressively then she stopped with her head down and her leg stretched forwards and her eyes closed and wobbled for a good 30 seconds before starting to paw again. I went to take her temp and when I lifted her blanket the right side of her hindquarters were tensed up and twitching really bad. I took her to the vet and her blood work came back normal her muscle enzymes may have been just slightly elevated. She was put on fluids and the vet said she colicked. But she was never off of food or water and had been going to the bathroom completely normally and wasn’t acting colicky to me at all. The next week she got an abscess I took her in and they did X-rays just to be sure that’s all it was because it wasn’t one we could really see because it was in the bulb of her heel. Her feet look great in X-ray and I got the abscess cleared up. I took her back into the vet because her back is still sore and she just doesn’t seem as powerful in her turns as usual. She was flexion tested positive on the stifle so they X-rayed stifles and those looked good and they couldn’t feel any fluid in them. They said it could be the SI but we decided to try some acupuncture and run her on Robaxin. A few days later she went to a barrel race and ran right at the top with some TOUGH horses. But I went back to the vet the next day because her back was still just hurting her. There was a different vet looking at her and completely out of nowhere he says she has EPM. She does stand camped out in the back end sometimes and she does walk a little camped out sometimes. When she gets into the trailer or walks over something she puts one foot at a time with her front feet then bunny hops with her back feet but other than that she hasn’t showed me any signs at all. She doesn’t stumble. The night before she ran with very high level horses without an issue so I kinda had a hard time believing him. He said horses that have it have a higher chance of “colic” and abscesses. But I started her on the medication (something that starts with a t in DMSO. I’d have to go look at the bottle). 4 days later out of nowhere she starts acting like she’s going to bite your head off if you touch anywhere under her belly from between her front legs all the way to between her back legs. I had a deep tissue massage and chiropractor done on her because her back problem was still there and I started giving her zesterra because I thought maybe her stomach was hurting. Her back was FINALLY better and didn’t seem like it’s bothering her at all anymore. I went to make a run the next day and she just shut down HARD and turned before first barrel. I exhibitioned her the exact same as always and I rode her like I always do. I ran her the next day and I was pushing he past first I was still sitting forward and two handed and she did the same thing again. I took her to a different arena a few days later that was pretty open behind first and I got her around it but I was pulling her off of it and kicking with my inside leg and doing everything I could and we still hit it. This is very unlike her and for a 4 year old she is very consistent and always very honest. It’s got to be some soundness thing going on. The blood test for EPM came back and my vet said it was 55%. She doesn’t try to bite my head off anymore touching under her belly but she still definitely isn’t happy about it. I am at a complete loss on what to do.
My 4 year old gelding had a similar " Colicky twitch" in the flank couple times but it was when I let him eat to much green grass. Mine are not on pasture but when green grass comes I was letting them nibble on it.. Both times I let him graze by hand maybe 15 minutes but it was to much next day, seemed a lot like your mare. SO now he only gets to nibble few mouth fulls and thats it. With what you describe, have you had a repro exam done? Before I used Regumate on my good mare, she had the most HORRIBLE heats. Looked very much like colic , she had back soreness, etc.. She never worked any different on the pattern but she was 13 and very stoic. I'm wondering if she has some female issues going on??? Since being on Regumate, my mare is 100000000% better. Zero back soreness etc. |
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kk_sue - 2018-03-15 11:08 AM
I have a 4 year old futurity horse that has been having the weirdest soundness issues lately then all of a sudden started stopping and turning right before first barrel when that has always been her money barrel she would nail it every time. I moved from Colorado to Texas about 6 weeks ago and before I left Colorado her back and hamstrings were really tight so I had PEMF therapy done a couple times. After I got down to Texas about a week later I think she tied up on me. (Yes she was already on daily electrolytes and has access to a salt block since before we left Colorado) I went to go clean out waters and she was standing in the middle of her pen pawing aggressively then she stopped with her head down and her leg stretched forwards and her eyes closed and wobbled for a good 30 seconds before starting to paw again. I went to take her temp and when I lifted her blanket the right side of her hindquarters were tensed up and twitching really bad. I took her to the vet and her blood work came back normal her muscle enzymes may have been just slightly elevated. She was put on fluids and the vet said she colicked. But she was never off of food or water and had been going to the bathroom completely normally and wasn’t acting colicky to me at all. The next week she got an abscess I took her in and they did X-rays just to be sure that’s all it was because it wasn’t one we could really see because it was in the bulb of her heel. Her feet look great in X-ray and I got the abscess cleared up. I took her back into the vet because her back is still sore and she just doesn’t seem as powerful in her turns as usual. She was flexion tested positive on the stifle so they X-rayed stifles and those looked good and they couldn’t feel any fluid in them. They said it could be the SI but we decided to try some acupuncture and run her on Robaxin. A few days later she went to a barrel race and ran right at the top with some TOUGH horses. But I went back to the vet the next day because her back was still just hurting her. There was a different vet looking at her and completely out of nowhere he says she has EPM. She does stand camped out in the back end sometimes and she does walk a little camped out sometimes. When she gets into the trailer or walks over something she puts one foot at a time with her front feet then bunny hops with her back feet but other than that she hasn’t showed me any signs at all. She doesn’t stumble. The night before she ran with very high level horses without an issue so I kinda had a hard time believing him. He said horses that have it have a higher chance of “colic” and abscesses. But I started her on the medication (something that starts with a t in DMSO. I’d have to go look at the bottle). 4 days later out of nowhere she starts acting like she’s going to bite your head off if you touch anywhere under her belly from between her front legs all the way to between her back legs. I had a deep tissue massage and chiropractor done on her because her back problem was still there and I started giving her zesterra because I thought maybe her stomach was hurting. Her back was FINALLY better and didn’t seem like it’s bothering her at all anymore. I went to make a run the next day and she just shut down HARD and turned before first barrel. I exhibitioned her the exact same as always and I rode her like I always do. I ran her the next day and I was pushing he past first I was still sitting forward and two handed and she did the same thing again. I took her to a different arena a few days later that was pretty open behind first and I got her around it but I was pulling her off of it and kicking with my inside leg and doing everything I could and we still hit it. This is very unlike her and for a 4 year old she is very consistent and always very honest. It’s got to be some soundness thing going on. The blood test for EPM came back and my vet said it was 55%. She doesn’t try to bite my head off anymore touching under her belly but she still definitely isn’t happy about it. I am at a complete loss on what to do.
My 4 year old gelding had a similar " Colicky twitch" in the flank couple times but it was when I let him eat to much green grass. Mine are not on pasture but when green grass comes I was letting them nibble on it.. Both times I let him graze by hand maybe 15 minutes but it was to much next day, seemed a lot like your mare. SO now he only gets to nibble few mouth fulls and thats it. With what you describe, have you had a repro exam done? Before I used Regumate on my good mare, she had the most HORRIBLE heats. Looked very much like colic , she had back soreness, etc.. She never worked any different on the pattern but she was 13 and very stoic. I'm wondering if she has some female issues going on??? Since being on Regumate, my mare is 100000000% better. Zero back soreness etc.
The twitch wasn’t in the flank area it was up high and back by the hamstrings could it still be the same thing? I did have a repro exam done on her because she acted in heat constantly. One ovary was a little large. She was on progesterone implants then was switched to the weekly shot of Altrenogest. She has acted much better ever since |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | Some thing to think about..
I had a gelding with sore hamstrings. Injected his hocks (upper and lower)less than a week later his hamstring soreness is GONE.
Also look into
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| I didn’t read all the other responses, but wanted to share that when that started with my four year old years ago we figured out we had to keep him out further...like in I’d send him down the middle of the pen. As he started really hunting his first barrel, he was getting in too much...then, he’d get there and turn too quick...maybe panicking that he didn’t have enough room? Who knows..,but an old timer with vast experience said keep him out, go down the middle and he’ll stop that...he did and was a bad-lad as he progressed into a mature horse. |
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| kk_sue - 2018-03-15 11:52 AM
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kk_sue - 2018-03-15 11:08 AM
I have a 4 year old futurity horse that has been having the weirdest soundness issues lately then all of a sudden started stopping and turning right before first barrel when that has always been her money barrel she would nail it every time. I moved from Colorado to Texas about 6 weeks ago and before I left Colorado her back and hamstrings were really tight so I had PEMF therapy done a couple times. After I got down to Texas about a week later I think she tied up on me. (Yes she was already on daily electrolytes and has access to a salt block since before we left Colorado) I went to go clean out waters and she was standing in the middle of her pen pawing aggressively then she stopped with her head down and her leg stretched forwards and her eyes closed and wobbled for a good 30 seconds before starting to paw again. I went to take her temp and when I lifted her blanket the right side of her hindquarters were tensed up and twitching really bad. I took her to the vet and her blood work came back normal her muscle enzymes may have been just slightly elevated. She was put on fluids and the vet said she colicked. But she was never off of food or water and had been going to the bathroom completely normally and wasn’t acting colicky to me at all. The next week she got an abscess I took her in and they did X-rays just to be sure that’s all it was because it wasn’t one we could really see because it was in the bulb of her heel. Her feet look great in X-ray and I got the abscess cleared up. I took her back into the vet because her back is still sore and she just doesn’t seem as powerful in her turns as usual. She was flexion tested positive on the stifle so they X-rayed stifles and those looked good and they couldn’t feel any fluid in them. They said it could be the SI but we decided to try some acupuncture and run her on Robaxin. A few days later she went to a barrel race and ran right at the top with some TOUGH horses. But I went back to the vet the next day because her back was still just hurting her. There was a different vet looking at her and completely out of nowhere he says she has EPM. She does stand camped out in the back end sometimes and she does walk a little camped out sometimes. When she gets into the trailer or walks over something she puts one foot at a time with her front feet then bunny hops with her back feet but other than that she hasn’t showed me any signs at all. She doesn’t stumble. The night before she ran with very high level horses without an issue so I kinda had a hard time believing him. He said horses that have it have a higher chance of “colic” and abscesses. But I started her on the medication (something that starts with a t in DMSO. I’d have to go look at the bottle). 4 days later out of nowhere she starts acting like she’s going to bite your head off if you touch anywhere under her belly from between her front legs all the way to between her back legs. I had a deep tissue massage and chiropractor done on her because her back problem was still there and I started giving her zesterra because I thought maybe her stomach was hurting. Her back was FINALLY better and didn’t seem like it’s bothering her at all anymore. I went to make a run the next day and she just shut down HARD and turned before first barrel. I exhibitioned her the exact same as always and I rode her like I always do. I ran her the next day and I was pushing he past first I was still sitting forward and two handed and she did the same thing again. I took her to a different arena a few days later that was pretty open behind first and I got her around it but I was pulling her off of it and kicking with my inside leg and doing everything I could and we still hit it. This is very unlike her and for a 4 year old she is very consistent and always very honest. It’s got to be some soundness thing going on. The blood test for EPM came back and my vet said it was 55%. She doesn’t try to bite my head off anymore touching under her belly but she still definitely isn’t happy about it. I am at a complete loss on what to do.
My 4 year old gelding had a similar " Colicky twitch" in the flank couple times but it was when I let him eat to much green grass. Mine are not on pasture but when green grass comes I was letting them nibble on it.. Both times I let him graze by hand maybe 15 minutes but it was to much next day, seemed a lot like your mare. SO now he only gets to nibble few mouth fulls and thats it. With what you describe, have you had a repro exam done? Before I used Regumate on my good mare, she had the most HORRIBLE heats. Looked very much like colic , she had back soreness, etc.. She never worked any different on the pattern but she was 13 and very stoic. I'm wondering if she has some female issues going on??? Since being on Regumate, my mare is 100000000% better. Zero back soreness etc.
The twitch wasn’t in the flank area it was up high and back by the hamstrings could it still be the same thing? I did have a repro exam done on her because she acted in heat constantly. One ovary was a little large. She was on progesterone implants then was switched to the weekly shot of Altrenogest. She has acted much better ever since
Glad you mention the weekly shots. I asked my vet about this option because its very time consuming to have to put on gloves and give the regumate orally every day. SHe said she did not recommend the weekly shots to performance horses because it can make them VERY sore and not wanting to perform????? WOnder if thats part of it? |
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| FLITASTIC - 2018-03-15 1:03 PM
kk_sue - 2018-03-15 11:52 AM
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kk_sue - 2018-03-15 11:08 AM
I have a 4 year old futurity horse that has been having the weirdest soundness issues lately then all of a sudden started stopping and turning right before first barrel when that has always been her money barrel she would nail it every time. I moved from Colorado to Texas about 6 weeks ago and before I left Colorado her back and hamstrings were really tight so I had PEMF therapy done a couple times. After I got down to Texas about a week later I think she tied up on me. (Yes she was already on daily electrolytes and has access to a salt block since before we left Colorado) I went to go clean out waters and she was standing in the middle of her pen pawing aggressively then she stopped with her head down and her leg stretched forwards and her eyes closed and wobbled for a good 30 seconds before starting to paw again. I went to take her temp and when I lifted her blanket the right side of her hindquarters were tensed up and twitching really bad. I took her to the vet and her blood work came back normal her muscle enzymes may have been just slightly elevated. She was put on fluids and the vet said she colicked. But she was never off of food or water and had been going to the bathroom completely normally and wasn’t acting colicky to me at all. The next week she got an abscess I took her in and they did X-rays just to be sure that’s all it was because it wasn’t one we could really see because it was in the bulb of her heel. Her feet look great in X-ray and I got the abscess cleared up. I took her back into the vet because her back is still sore and she just doesn’t seem as powerful in her turns as usual. She was flexion tested positive on the stifle so they X-rayed stifles and those looked good and they couldn’t feel any fluid in them. They said it could be the SI but we decided to try some acupuncture and run her on Robaxin. A few days later she went to a barrel race and ran right at the top with some TOUGH horses. But I went back to the vet the next day because her back was still just hurting her. There was a different vet looking at her and completely out of nowhere he says she has EPM. She does stand camped out in the back end sometimes and she does walk a little camped out sometimes. When she gets into the trailer or walks over something she puts one foot at a time with her front feet then bunny hops with her back feet but other than that she hasn’t showed me any signs at all. She doesn’t stumble. The night before she ran with very high level horses without an issue so I kinda had a hard time believing him. He said horses that have it have a higher chance of “colic” and abscesses. But I started her on the medication (something that starts with a t in DMSO. I’d have to go look at the bottle). 4 days later out of nowhere she starts acting like she’s going to bite your head off if you touch anywhere under her belly from between her front legs all the way to between her back legs. I had a deep tissue massage and chiropractor done on her because her back problem was still there and I started giving her zesterra because I thought maybe her stomach was hurting. Her back was FINALLY better and didn’t seem like it’s bothering her at all anymore. I went to make a run the next day and she just shut down HARD and turned before first barrel. I exhibitioned her the exact same as always and I rode her like I always do. I ran her the next day and I was pushing he past first I was still sitting forward and two handed and she did the same thing again. I took her to a different arena a few days later that was pretty open behind first and I got her around it but I was pulling her off of it and kicking with my inside leg and doing everything I could and we still hit it. This is very unlike her and for a 4 year old she is very consistent and always very honest. It’s got to be some soundness thing going on. The blood test for EPM came back and my vet said it was 55%. She doesn’t try to bite my head off anymore touching under her belly but she still definitely isn’t happy about it. I am at a complete loss on what to do.
My 4 year old gelding had a similar " Colicky twitch" in the flank couple times but it was when I let him eat to much green grass. Mine are not on pasture but when green grass comes I was letting them nibble on it.. Both times I let him graze by hand maybe 15 minutes but it was to much next day, seemed a lot like your mare. SO now he only gets to nibble few mouth fulls and thats it. With what you describe, have you had a repro exam done? Before I used Regumate on my good mare, she had the most HORRIBLE heats. Looked very much like colic , she had back soreness, etc.. She never worked any different on the pattern but she was 13 and very stoic. I'm wondering if she has some female issues going on??? Since being on Regumate, my mare is 100000000% better. Zero back soreness etc.
The twitch wasn’t in the flank area it was up high and back by the hamstrings could it still be the same thing? I did have a repro exam done on her because she acted in heat constantly. One ovary was a little large. She was on progesterone implants then was switched to the weekly shot of Altrenogest. She has acted much better ever since
Glad you mention the weekly shots. I asked my vet about this option because its very time consuming to have to put on gloves and give the regumate orally every day. SHe said she did not recommend the weekly shots to performance horses because it can make them VERY sore and not wanting to perform????? WOnder if thats part of it?
I had never heard that before? Definitely going to bring that up with my vet. I definitely don’t mind the extra time if it would help her. I was just under the impression it did the exact same thing. |
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| runs4fun - 2018-03-15 1:00 PM
I didn’t read all the other responses, but wanted to share that when that started with my four year old years ago we figured out we had to keep him out further...like in I’d send him down the middle of the pen. As he started really hunting his first barrel, he was getting in too much...then, he’d get there and turn too quick...maybe panicking that he didn’t have enough room? Who knows..,but an old timer with vast experience said keep him out, go down the middle and he’ll stop that...he did and was a bad-lad as he progressed into a mature horse.
I have been treating it as a training issue or whatever you would call that it just seems odd to me that she would nail it every time the all of a sudden over night just not even turn it. I take have always taken her in pretty wide I don’t like just running straight at the barrel. |
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| imturnin3 - 2018-03-15 1:00 PM
Some thing to think about..
I had a gelding with sore hamstrings. Injected his hocks (upper and lower)less than a week later his hamstring soreness is GONE.
Also look into
Pssm
kissing spines.
Saddle soreness.
Hope you find it and it's and easy fix.
It doesn’t seem like saddle soreness because it’s behind where the saddle sits but who knows. I debated getting X-rays of her back to check for kissing spine but now I’m wondering if she was just out in her back that bad? Because after chiropractor she doesn’t seem sore at all |
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| imturnin3 - 2018-03-15 2:00 PM
Some thing to think about..
I had a gelding with sore hamstrings. Injected his hocks (upper and lower)less than a week later his hamstring soreness is GONE.
Also look into
Pssm
kissing spines.
Saddle soreness.
Hope you find it and it's and easy fix.
Could any of these cause a horse to turn hard in front of the 1st then go on and run 2nd and 3rd perfectly? |
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| joemama - 2018-03-15 2:36 PM imturnin3 - 2018-03-15 2:00 PM Some thing to think about.. I had a gelding with sore hamstrings. Injected his hocks (upper and lower)less than a week later his hamstring soreness is GONE. Also look into Pssm kissing spines. Saddle soreness. Hope you find it and it's and easy fix. Could any of these cause a horse to turn hard in front of the 1st then go on and run 2nd and 3rd perfectly?
ETA- YES....if a horse is sore on one side they could duck the first and then turn the others perfectly.
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| lopnaround - 2018-03-15 2:47 PM
joemama - 2018-03-15 2:36 PM imturnin3 - 2018-03-15 2:00 PM Some thing to think about.. I had a gelding with sore hamstrings. Injected his hocks (upper and lower)less than a week later his hamstring soreness is GONE. Also look into Pssm kissing spines. Saddle soreness. Hope you find it and it's and easy fix. Could any of these cause a horse to turn hard in front of the 1st then go on and run 2nd and 3rd perfectly?
ETA- YES....if a horse is sore on one side they could duck the first and then turn the others perfectly.
Why would a horse sit pretty darn hard in front of the barrel vs running by it?
I could see a soreness issue causing the horse to run by the barrel but not sit hard and turn in front of it.
Could it because they know the soreness shows when pushing out of the barrel?
Im not arguing, just curious and never seen this. |
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| That's a good question...you would think if he was sitting down hard that is joints aren't hurting. What about bleeding? Have you had him scoped? |
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Location: South Georgia | I have no answers, but I have empathy for your situation. There is nothing worse than trying to interpret their behavior and fix their issues without success.
You mention a move and a potentially stressful situation....have you thought about ulcers? That may be the painful belly and pawing in the pasture? I'd give her a couple weeks of omeprazole (I buy Abler Abgard paste bc its WAY cheaper than Ulcergard) and see if it helps. If it does, I'd finish off with another two weeks--4 total.
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I've seen horses with all of the above exhibit this behavior. As well as the kissing spine show up as what was thought to be si issues, and thought to be pssm. Horse couldn't turn first. But Inhaled second and third. Finally the third vet x rated the horse's back. Also seen a horse with a hock chip duck his barrel. And a horse with an ill fitting saddle. What it is they ancicipate the pain. So they "hurry and get it over with" if you know what I mean?
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| lopnaround - 2018-03-15 2:08 PM
That's a good question...you would think if he was sitting down hard that is joints aren't hurting. What about bleeding? Have you had him scoped?
I have not had her scoped. The thought had crossed my mind but I wasn’t sure if it would cause this. My other mare is a bleeder but never even showed any sign until she came out of the arena bleeding so I wasn’t sure what signs they normally show if they’re bleeders. |
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| horsegirl - 2018-03-15 2:18 PM
I have no answers, but I have empathy for your situation. There is nothing worse than trying to interpret their behavior and fix their issues without success.
You mention a move and a potentially stressful situation....have you thought about ulcers? That may be the painful belly and pawing in the pasture? I'd give her a couple weeks of omeprazole (I buy Abler Abgard paste bc its WAY cheaper than Ulcergard) and see if it helps. If it does, I'd finish off with another two weeks--4 total.
I was thinking ulcers with her not wanting me around her belly. She hasn’t lost weight or been off food but it’s definitely a possibility. That’s why I started her on zesterra. I’ve done omeprazole before without much luck |
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| imturnin3 - 2018-03-15 2:18 PM
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I've seen horses with all of the above exhibit this behavior. As well as the kissing spine show up as what was thought to be si issues, and thought to be pssm. Horse couldn't turn first. But Inhaled second and third
I’m not super familiar with pssm. Is it easy to test for? Can it be treated and managed if that is it? |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | UC Davis does testing. There is pssm 1 and 2. Treatment involves diet changes and medications. |
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