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| What is everyones opinion on the buy back at barrel races? I personally don't like it. I think a barrel race should be what it has always been..... 1 run and whatever happens is what you take whether it's a knocked barrel, go off pattern, etc. Someone can be winning the barrel race and a person buys back in & runs the fastest time. How is that fair to the one that ran the fastest time in the actual barrel race. |
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Location: TEXAS | I don't like it either! I have been beat out of money that way! |
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Location: Oklahoma | Don't agree with it ~~~ Don't like it at all!!  |
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Location: The Great Northwest | I feel buying back into a race has it place in some situations. |
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| I don’t think buy backs are fair to the horses. 98% of the time-the initial mistake that caused the unsatisfactory run was rider error. Don’t punish your horse for your mistake. Go home-get better- and try again next time.
It’s also unfair to rider’s that make good runs the first time and then get out ran by someone on their second run. Usually horses get faster with each run so buy backs are at an advantage and since I don’t buy back-my win percentage gets lowered.
If you didn’t like your run or need to get back in the arena to correct something-get an exhibition after the barrel race.
Yes-I know that at the big, tournament style rodeos girls make multiple runs in a very short amount of time but that is for BIG money.
I don’t mind the buy backs at The American Semis because those aren’t made on the same day and again, the stakes are much higher.
I just don’t care for people torturing their horses at a $40 jackpot because they didn’t do good enough the first time.
Edited by BigMomma 2018-04-02 11:09 PM
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | Im not really sure how i feel about it yet. Ill be heading to the Panty Raid Futurity here in a week and this is the first year they are offering it at the show and its kind of confusing to me. i took it as those that did the "buy back" would be in a seperate side pot, thats why you pay the Open fee plus the $100 buy back fee, Or am i understanding this wrong? If it goes along with the open then no i dont agree with it at all because as others have said its not fair to us others that only want our horses to run once. |
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| Buy back a chance to beat someone else out of placing who got it done the first time...ABSOLUTELY NOT.....just the wrong way to do it. A consolation or second chance race for all those who hit barrels or didn’t place....yes. Of course, if the entry form clearly states that they are doing buy backs...if people choose to enter knowing understanding what could happen....that’s their business and there should be no complaints. I,personally,would choose not to enter
I entered a barrel race once and they decided to do buy backs when the race ended..bumped me off winning the 2D. I was, of course, not a happy camper.
Edited by runs4fun 2018-04-04 5:43 AM
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| Around here the only places it’s been offered so far are small early season jackpots. I don’t agree with it, I don’t utilize it. I think I’ve seen where you can buy back into the consolation race at some NBHA races - you have to have tipped to buy in, and it’s a separate race run after the open/youth. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | It is going to be an advantage to those with more wealth. It is also more profit for the producer of the event. In the long run it will ruin the event. When more and more people see the unfairness in what wealth can give you in an advantage of just paying more to get a better time. People will quit going to the event. |
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| Most horses are fine with multiple runs in a day. Some top horses actually run better their 2nd run. I know two specifically that will loaf through their first run and kill their second set, both capable of winning the show. Now, just saying, those two 'knock' on their first run, knowing they can pony up and run again, knowing they will run better their second run.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | It boils down to "greed" ...... more money in the Producer's pocket !!! |
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| It goes along with the rollover. I hate them both. Run the class and whatever it is it is. |
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| snoopyjoe - 2018-04-03 8:35 AM It goes along with the rollover. I hate them both. Run the class and whatever it is it is.
sorry, but I dont agree with this. I have no problem with carry overs. if someone wants to run in the youth or senior or whatever and the open, they shouldnt have to make their horse run twice. the classes are always run on the same day so its not like they are getting some sort of advantage of different ground. |
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Location: North Dakota | runs4fun - 2018-04-03 7:16 AM Buy back a chance to beat someone else out of placing who got it done the first....ABSOLUTELY NOT.....just the wrong way to do it. A consolation or second chance race for all those who hit barrels or didn’t place....yes. Of course, if the entry form clearly states that they are doing buy backs...if people choose to enter knowing understanding what could happen....that’s their business and there should be no complaints. I,personally,would choose not to enter
I entered a barrel race once and they decided to do buy backs when the race ended..bumped me off winning the 2D. I was, of course, not a happy camper.
I completely agree with your post and am flabbergasted that the producer would make the decision to have buy backs after the race was already run! That's not right. If they are allowing buy backs it should be advertised as such so a person can make an informed decision as to whether or not they want to enter. |
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| Not a fan of buy backs. If they are offered, it plays a big part in my decision to enter or not. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Never was a fan of buy backs, seems like every time I was sitting well {in the money} someone would buy a buy back and knock me out at some point  . So when I was going I just tryed to go to a race that didnt do the buy backs but now adays its seems to be everywhere..  |
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 Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | barrel racing addict - 2018-04-02 8:34 PM What is everyones opinion on the buy back at barrel races? I personally don't like it. I think a barrel race should be what it has always been..... 1 run and whatever happens is what you take whether it's a knocked barrel, go off pattern, etc. Someone can be winning the barrel race and a person buys back in & runs the fastest time. How is that fair to the one that ran the fastest time in the actual barrel race.
If you're entered in the race, it's fair bc you agreed with the rules and entered.
If you don't like it, don't go to those races...I guess I'm used to the concept bc of team ropings.
It wouldn't bother me if a race had buy backs, what I would want to know is what they're doing with those fees...is it going in the producer's pocket, to the payout, etc. I would expect it to go into the payout like an additional "normal" entry...at the team ropings I'm pretty sure it just goes to the producer. |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would advise if anyone dont like the buy backs call the producer that's putting on the race and ask if theres going to be buy backs so that way you will know for darn sure if you want to make that race or not and then you wont have any reason to complain about the race if theres is buy backs.  |
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| I have been to barrel races where buy backs weren't advertised, but suddenly DURING the race they announce they are doing buy backs and it was after a well known 1D rider knocked. That does make me mad. |
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Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | GLP - 2018-04-03 10:00 AM
I have been to barrel races where buy backs weren't advertised, but suddenly DURING the race they announce they are doing buy backs and it was after a well known 1D rider knocked. That does make me mad.
While I don't mind buy backs, THAT would tick me off!!
I would voice my opinion, and be done with that producer. |
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