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Location: Somewhere around here | Can anyone give me any personal experience on riding your Barrel Horse two handed through the turns at a run. I just experimented this on my horse who rides really well in a Dog one no hit bit; but he rides too noodley one handed and he's too stiff with a Mullen; and he just doesn't like snaffle mouthpieces. Long story short, he was amazing and it felt so smooth! But man that's hard to do at a run. Any tips from someone who's run a horse with both hands around the turns? |
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Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer. |
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Location: California | classicpotatochip - 2018-04-08 5:24 PM
Shorten your stirrups.
Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer.
Pretty much this. You have to be well balanced in the middle of the seat, and put pressure in the outside stirrup. |
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Location: Northwest | I tend to ride two handed on the 1st & 2nd on all four of my horses right now. Three of those are all bred the same way and it has to do with their style (ratey). The fourth is a complete noodle. I ride a short stirrup. I’m not in very good shape overall at the moment but I do have a fairly strong core (surprisingly). Having someone yell at you to stay two-handed helps. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | classicpotatochip - 2018-04-08 6:24 PM
Shorten your stirrups.
Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer.
Thanks! I already work out at home with weights, kettle bell/barball/& resistance bands, but I'll concentrate a little more on core and legs...and maybe less on that bubble butt fantasy lol. |
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Location: Louisiana | If you just can't make yourself stay 2 handed in a run, try using the outside hand.
You'll look like a dodo, but I had a gelding back in HS that was super noodly, and I was pulling too much on the inside rein even though I wasn't heavy handed.
My mom sent us to a girl to help us, and she showed me that. I felt so dumb, but it worked well enough that on our first run he turned out from under me at the second barrel LOL. And even though I ate dirt, a half dozen people wanted to know if I got a new horse bc "that first barrel was awesome!"  |
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| cecollins0811 - 2018-04-08 10:06 PM
classicpotatochip - 2018-04-08 6:24 PM
Shorten your stirrups.
Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer.
Thanks! I already work out at home with weights, kettle bell/barball/& resistance bands, but I'll concentrate a little more on core and legs...and maybe less on that bubble butt fantasy lol.
Get on the leg press, you want at least your body weight on there. I shoot for 100-150 lbs more than my body weight, working for 200 more. . 4 sets of 30, different foot positions. Then add 45 lbs and do a burnout of as many reps as you can physically do. Burnout twice.
Squats. Hire a trainer to show you how so you don’t kill yourself.
You want a bubble butt AND be able to stay with your horse? Yeah buddy.
A ton of walking lunges on non leg days.
Core days, at least twice a week. 100 inclined sit ups. 5 sets of 20 on the captains chair. Mountain climbers, same.
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Location: Somewhere around here | classicpotatochip - 2018-04-09 9:17 AM
cecollins0811 - 2018-04-08 10:06 PM
classicpotatochip - 2018-04-08 6:24 PM
Shorten your stirrups.
Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer.
Thanks! I already work out at home with weights, kettle bell/barball/& resistance bands, but I'll concentrate a little more on core and legs...and maybe less on that bubble butt fantasy lol.
Get on the leg press, you want at least your body weight on there. I shoot for 100-150 lbs more than my body weight, working for 200 more. . 4 sets of 30, different foot positions. Then add 45 lbs and do a burnout of as many reps as you can physically do. Burnout twice.
Squats. Hire a trainer to show you how so you don’t kill yourself.
You want a bubble butt AND be able to stay with your horse? Yeah buddy.
A ton of walking lunges on non leg days.
Core days, at least twice a week. 100 inclined sit ups. 5 sets of 20 on the captains chair. Mountain climbers, same.
I'm unable to go to an actual gym, so I might have to figure out how to do a modified leg press. When I was in college and worked out for free I loved that thing! Now I gotta be poor lol.
I'm working on my squat position right now, I have a tendency to go forward to much. I also have a bad ankle from a old riding accident and I'm working on it's mobility now so I can eventually squat deeper. Half squats, half ass. Full squats, full ass lol.
What's the captain chair? Just looked it up! I used that in college too but never knew the name. Loved that too!
Edited by cecollins0811 2018-04-09 3:20 PM
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Location: Arizona | I have the opposite problem...I ride two-handed and I need to stay one-handed longer as I am causing my horse NOT to complete her turns...lol! I have no idea as to why I won't stay to my horn longer. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Biggest thing that helped me with the balance and core strength was taking the ab ball and kneeling on it next to a wall to use the wall to balance at first, then also sitting astride it with my feet off the ground and doing the same thing, use the wall to balance at first then work on being able to balance and increase the time you can, then adding rocking it slightly and slowly from side to side and back to the center. Being able to balance on something that is still or stable is completely different than something that your center of gravity is constantly changing, you have to find a way to mimic that motion. |
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Location: Idaho | classicpotatochip - 2018-04-10 8:17 AM
cecollins0811 - 2018-04-08 10:06 PM
classicpotatochip - 2018-04-08 6:24 PM
Shorten your stirrups.
Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer.
Thanks! I already work out at home with weights, kettle bell/barball/& resistance bands, but I'll concentrate a little more on core and legs...and maybe less on that bubble butt fantasy lol.
Get on the leg press, you want at least your body weight on there. I shoot for 100-150 lbs more than my body weight, working for 200 more. . 4 sets of 30, different foot positions. Then add 45 lbs and do a burnout of as many reps as you can physically do. Burnout twice.
Squats. Hire a trainer to show you how so you don’t kill yourself.
You want a bubble butt AND be able to stay with your horse? Yeah buddy.
A ton of walking lunges on non leg days.
Core days, at least twice a week. 100 inclined sit ups. 5 sets of 20 on the captains chair. Mountain climbers, same.
Sorry, but I would not recommend this. The key is to do less weight and more reps. I used to lift heavy.. I could lift 3x's my body weight on a leg press at one point. I recently worked with a trainer for 6 months, and yes you want leg strength and to be able to lift your own weight.. but you can seriously tear up your joints if you go too heavy.
There is a lot exercises our there that stabilize your muscles around your joints that help strengthen your body. One thing when it comes to riding 2 handed, I would practice simply riding two handed at higher speeds. Work on your balance, sink deep into your seat, close your legs (not your knees) and push your weight into your heels so you do not lose your balance.
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Location: Dearing, GA | LIVE2RUN - 2018-04-09 4:26 PM I have the opposite problem...I ride two-handed and I need to stay one-handed longer as I am causing my horse NOT to complete her turns...lol! I have no idea as to why I won't stay to my horn longer.
I had a trainer duct tape my hand to my thigh once. Not even joking. It was in a controlled environment and I trusted her and the horse. Just a suggestion! LOL |
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Location: Somewhere around here | I tried a really interesting trick yesterday to see how it would work out and it was a success! I put a knot right in the middle of my reins and I used that to guide him with one hand instead of having my hand down more on the reins and it really helped him out. Going to a race tonight to see if it was a fluke or not! |
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Location: Louisiana | cecollins0811 - 2018-04-10 8:00 AM
I tried a really interesting trick yesterday to see how it would work out and it was a success! I put a knot right in the middle of my reins and I used that to guide him with one hand instead of having my hand down more on the reins and it really helped him out. Going to a race tonight to see if it was a fluke or not!
Good luck!
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| DashNDustem - 2018-04-09 6:25 PM
classicpotatochip - 2018-04-10 8:17 AM
cecollins0811 - 2018-04-08 10:06 PM
classicpotatochip - 2018-04-08 6:24 PM
Shorten your stirrups.
Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer.
Thanks! I already work out at home with weights, kettle bell/barball/& resistance bands, but I'll concentrate a little more on core and legs...and maybe less on that bubble butt fantasy lol.
Get on the leg press, you want at least your body weight on there. I shoot for 100-150 lbs more than my body weight, working for 200 more. . 4 sets of 30, different foot positions. Then add 45 lbs and do a burnout of as many reps as you can physically do. Burnout twice.
Squats. Hire a trainer to show you how so you don’t kill yourself.
You want a bubble butt AND be able to stay with your horse? Yeah buddy.
A ton of walking lunges on non leg days.
Core days, at least twice a week. 100 inclined sit ups. 5 sets of 20 on the captains chair. Mountain climbers, same.
Sorry, but I would not recommend this. The key is to do less weight and more reps. I used to lift heavy.. I could lift 3x's my body weight on a leg press at one point. I recently worked with a trainer for 6 months, and yes you want leg strength and to be able to lift your own weight.. but you can seriously tear up your joints if you go too heavy.
There is a lot exercises our there that stabilize your muscles around your joints that help strengthen your body. One thing when it comes to riding 2 handed, I would practice simply riding two handed at higher speeds. Work on your balance, sink deep into your seat, close your legs (not your knees ) and push your weight into your heels so you do not lose your balance.
To each his own! 
I’ve recently bumped up my weights and have never felt better. Lifting heavy is very dependent on proper form and body control. |
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Location: Arizona | Just Let Me Run - 2018-04-09 9:06 PM
LIVE2RUN - 2018-04-09 4:26 PM I have the opposite problem...I ride two-handed and I need to stay one-handed longer as I am causing my horse NOT to complete her turns...lol! I have no idea as to why I won't stay to my horn longer.
I had a trainer duct tape my hand to my thigh once. Not even joking. It was in a controlled environment and I trusted her and the horse. Just a suggestion! LOL
Haha, love it!! I probably would fall off my horse, lol! |
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Location: Arizona | classicpotatochip - 2018-04-10 8:30 AM
DashNDustem - 2018-04-09 6:25 PM
classicpotatochip - 2018-04-10 8:17 AM
cecollins0811 - 2018-04-08 10:06 PM
classicpotatochip - 2018-04-08 6:24 PM
Shorten your stirrups.
Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer.
Thanks! I already work out at home with weights, kettle bell/barball/& resistance bands, but I'll concentrate a little more on core and legs...and maybe less on that bubble butt fantasy lol.
Get on the leg press, you want at least your body weight on there. I shoot for 100-150 lbs more than my body weight, working for 200 more. . 4 sets of 30, different foot positions. Then add 45 lbs and do a burnout of as many reps as you can physically do. Burnout twice.
Squats. Hire a trainer to show you how so you don’t kill yourself.
You want a bubble butt AND be able to stay with your horse? Yeah buddy.
A ton of walking lunges on non leg days.
Core days, at least twice a week. 100 inclined sit ups. 5 sets of 20 on the captains chair. Mountain climbers, same.
Sorry, but I would not recommend this. The key is to do less weight and more reps. I used to lift heavy.. I could lift 3x's my body weight on a leg press at one point. I recently worked with a trainer for 6 months, and yes you want leg strength and to be able to lift your own weight.. but you can seriously tear up your joints if you go too heavy.
There is a lot exercises our there that stabilize your muscles around your joints that help strengthen your body. One thing when it comes to riding 2 handed, I would practice simply riding two handed at higher speeds. Work on your balance, sink deep into your seat, close your legs (not your knees ) and push your weight into your heels so you do not lose your balance.
To each his own!
I’ve recently bumped up my weights and have never felt better. Lifting heavy is very dependent on proper form and body control.
I do a lot of jump roping and sit ups, best core work out I have ever had! No gym needed! |
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Location: Oklahoma | classicpotatochip - 2018-04-10 9:30 AM DashNDustem - 2018-04-09 6:25 PM classicpotatochip - 2018-04-10 8:17 AM cecollins0811 - 2018-04-08 10:06 PM classicpotatochip - 2018-04-08 6:24 PM Shorten your stirrups. Go to the gym and lift heavy to strengthen your legs. Heavy core excercises. Game changer. Thanks! I already work out at home with weights, kettle bell/barball/& resistance bands, but I'll concentrate a little more on core and legs...and maybe less on that bubble butt fantasy lol. Get on the leg press, you want at least your body weight on there. I shoot for 100-150 lbs more than my body weight, working for 200 more. . 4 sets of 30, different foot positions. Then add 45 lbs and do a burnout of as many reps as you can physically do. Burnout twice. Squats. Hire a trainer to show you how so you don’t kill yourself. You want a bubble butt AND be able to stay with your horse? Yeah buddy. A ton of walking lunges on non leg days. Core days, at least twice a week. 100 inclined sit ups. 5 sets of 20 on the captains chair. Mountain climbers, same. Sorry, but I would not recommend this. The key is to do less weight and more reps. I used to lift heavy.. I could lift 3x's my body weight on a leg press at one point. I recently worked with a trainer for 6 months, and yes you want leg strength and to be able to lift your own weight.. but you can seriously tear up your joints if you go too heavy. There is a lot exercises our there that stabilize your muscles around your joints that help strengthen your body. One thing when it comes to riding 2 handed, I would practice simply riding two handed at higher speeds. Work on your balance, sink deep into your seat, close your legs (not your knees ) and push your weight into your heels so you do not lose your balance. To each his own! I’ve recently bumped up my weights and have never felt better. Lifting heavy is very dependent on proper form and body control.
The best balance I have found is to do 8-10 sets with varied weight. 2 warm up, 2 mid weight, 1 heavy, but can get 8 reps, 2 super heavy(max out) 3-5 reps, 1 back at heavy, then cool off with an intermediate weight (burnout here). Sometimes I do more, sometimes less depending on how my body feels that day. 1-2 min rest between sets.
I found I could lift almost anything, but my stamina suffered. With the above you keep your heart rate up.
ETA: To stay 2 handed, you have to be comfortable in your saddle. Stay square and leaned forward (engaging your core) use your legs to balance you out side to side. Focus on keeping that position. To me it is harder to stay 2 handed if you sit on your butt.
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Having strong legs and core as well as arms is important but working on your balance it key, truly. I coached gymnastics for 27+ years, competitive gymnastics at a pretty high level. Trust me, those kids are strong, but natural balance doesn't come with just being strong. You can save yourself from a fall by being strong absolutely, dangling off the side of the beam and never touching the ground is a lot different than staying centered over the top of 4 inches, shows up in your scores just like in barrel racing it shows up in your time. This goes for being two handed or going to the horn too. Most of us wouldn't think of running one that wasnt balanced enough to hold a lead in a small circle and to do that we typically get them strong first and then practice small circles slow, then speed up. We have to do the same thing with our own bodies. |
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