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Location: GODS country | Narrowed down to these two stallions. Mare is a daughter of Oklahoma Fuel out of a Dash For Cash mare. Mare is 15.2, big boned and has good mass. Injured young and was never competed on.
What is your experience with either stud?! Which would you pick?
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | I guess the first question I would ask is, is your mare a Paint? The second question I would ask is, is she a palomino or dun (does she carry the dilute gene)? |
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Location: GODS country | cloverleaf - 2018-04-14 10:49 AM
I guess the first question I would ask is, is your mare a Paint? The second question I would ask is, is she a palomino or dun (does she carry the dilute gene)?
AQHA and sorrel.
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | The Strait Firewater Iām familiar with is APHA but I see that there is a Palomino AQHA stud named Strait Firewater as well- so Iām no help at all! |
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Location: In a happy place | Hands down First Down French.
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Location: USA | First down French. Love mine |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | Both studs have similar conformation so we'll put that a side.
BUT If you mare is AQHA and you're breeding for a futurity prospect OR for RESALE The answer is easy. Definitely FIrst Down French.
I've seen his babies sell for quite a nice penny and very easily ( of course dam side has a part).
Now paints just dont sell that well. Hopefully that will change in the future as I LOVE them. the only way the foal from straight firewater would sell for a good price and right off the bat is if you got lucky and got a solid buckskin or even better a buckskin tobiano. Then your resale would be quick and for a decent amount. Plus i COULD be wrong but i dont think SFW is a proven futurity producer.
Where as FDF is already, not huge as far as i know but he is. and he probably will be even more so with more foals running.
This is just my humble opinion and using good logic and watching the market.
Oh one more thing..... If you're going to pay almost $1500 for a stud fee. might as well pay the extra $250 for FDF who is already a proven futurity producer and is well promoted with a nice resale on his foals.
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Location: Minnesota | Being from MN and knowing Strait Firewater and where he came from he would be my pick! Strait has babies winning all over in the north. |
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Location: NE TX | Don't have experience with either but have a friend that has a FDF and he is AMAZING! Has a heart of gold and works every chance he gets even through some pain he had last week in hocks, still made a nice run just a D slower |
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Location: Desert Land | Ā Hands down...First Down French. I've had 3 out of 3 different mares and I loved them. I'm breeding 2 more mares to him this year. |
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Location: Texas | First Down French. My 4YO filly by him is fantastic. Super mature mind, consistently placing in the 1D locally right now. |
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| First Down French. Love mine. I'll be breeding back to him next year. |
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Location: GODS country | I've watched lots of videos of both studs and their get and I can't get over how natural the FDF are! All seem to have the same style like their sire! Think I will be going with him! |
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Location: Texas | Here's some videos of mine. This girl loves her job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnkAymThLn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrygKq2QXjQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo1JDe2aQCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwd_CkCCfpI
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Location: GODS country | casualdust07 - 2018-04-15 8:22 PM
Here's some videos of mine. This girl loves her job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnkAymThLn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrygKq2QXjQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo1JDe2aQCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwd_CkCCfpI
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| I cant tell you what to do as I like both studs.
However, I do have more experience with Strait and he is such a gentleman. He has a cool style and solid bone to him that I really like. I have probably been very close to a half dozen of his babies and they're all naturally super athletic. The ones I know are shown more locally but they have the caliber to be at bigger events but its more of a hobby for them, so stay close to home. Which might be why you see more from FDF babies.
For me, I have more desire for a FWF than FG also (prefer both some day). So that plays a part too. |
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| Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2018-04-14 6:04 PM
Both studs have similar conformation so we'll put that a side.
BUT If you mare is AQHA and you're breeding for a futurity prospect OR for RESALE The answer is easy. Definitely FIrst Down French.
I've seen his babies sell for quite a nice penny and very easily ( of course dam side has a part).
Now paints just dont sell that well. Hopefully that will change in the future as I LOVE them. the only way the foal from straight firewater would sell for a good price and right off the bat is if you got lucky and got a solid buckskin or even better a buckskin tobiano. Then your resale would be quick and for a decent amount. Plus i COULD be wrong but i dont think SFW is a proven futurity producer.
Where as FDF is already, not huge as far as i know but he is. and he probably will be even more so with more foals running.
This is just my humble opinion and using good logic and watching the market.
Oh one more thing..... If you're going to pay almost $1500 for a stud fee. might as well pay the extra $250 for FDF who is already a proven futurity producer and is well promoted with a nice resale on his foals.
What are some winning FDF foals? Just curious because I used to be a huge FDF fan but I had been wondering how they were doing and hadn't seen very many out there. There aren't any here locally, but I am sure they are out there nationally. |
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Location: GODS country | WrapN3MN - 2018-04-16 12:09 PM
Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2018-04-14 6:04 PM
Both studs have similar conformation so we'll put that a side.
BUT If you mare is AQHA and you're breeding for a futurity prospect OR for RESALE The answer is easy. Definitely FIrst Down French.
I've seen his babies sell for quite a nice penny and very easily ( of course dam side has a part).
Now paints just dont sell that well. Hopefully that will change in the future as I LOVE them. the only way the foal from straight firewater would sell for a good price and right off the bat is if you got lucky and got a solid buckskin or even better a buckskin tobiano. Then your resale would be quick and for a decent amount. Plus i COULD be wrong but i dont think SFW is a proven futurity producer.
Where as FDF is already, not huge as far as i know but he is. and he probably will be even more so with more foals running.
This is just my humble opinion and using good logic and watching the market.
Oh one more thing..... If you're going to pay almost $1500 for a stud fee. might as well pay the extra $250 for FDF who is already a proven futurity producer and is well promoted with a nice resale on his foals.
What are some winning FDF foals? Just curious because I used to be a huge FDF fan but I had been wondering how they were doing and hadn't seen very many out there. There aren't any here locally, but I am sure they are out there nationally.
I was just on his facebook page and found that 2 just placed in the top 10 of the VGBRA Futurity average. #4 Ima French Girl and #9 Beda Be French! |
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Location: GODS country | stayceem - 2018-04-16 9:03 AM
I cant tell you what to do as I like both studs.
However, I do have more experience with Strait and he is such a gentleman. He has a cool style and solid bone to him that I really like. I have probably been very close to a half dozen of his babies and they're all naturally super athletic. The ones I know are shown more locally but they have the caliber to be at bigger events but its more of a hobby for them, so stay close to home. Which might be why you see more from FDF babies.
For me, I have more desire for a FWF than FG also (prefer both some day). So that plays a part too.
Why do you prefer FWF vs FG? Just curious! |
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Location: Desert Land | WrapN3MN - 2018-04-16 10:09 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2018-04-14 6:04 PM Both studs have similar conformation so we'll put that a side. BUT If you mare is AQHA and you're breeding for a futurity prospect OR for RESALE The answer is easy. Definitely FIrst Down French. I've seen his babies sell for quite a nice penny and very easily ( of course dam side has a part). Now paints just dont sell that well. Hopefully that will change in the future as I LOVE them. the only way the foal from straight firewater would sell for a good price and right off the bat is if you got lucky and got a solid buckskin or even better a buckskin tobiano. Then your resale would be quick and for a decent amount. Plus i COULD be wrong but i dont think SFW is a proven futurity producer. Where as FDF is already, not huge as far as i know but he is. and he probably will be even more so with more foals running. This is just my humble opinion and using good logic and watching the market. Oh one more thing..... If you're going to pay almost $1500 for a stud fee. might as well pay the extra $250 for FDF who is already a proven futurity producer and is well promoted with a nice resale on his foals. What are some winning FDF foals? Just curious because I used to be a huge FDF fan but I had been wondering how they were doing and hadn't seen very many out there. There aren't any here locally, but I am sure they are out there nationally.
There are quite a few of them here on the West Coast winning out this way. If you get a chance, get on the FDF Facebook and you'll see a ton of them running and winning. |
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