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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Some bloodlines and good crosses that have a tendency to be easy to train/train up/pick up quickly... I have a FG x Rare Bar and while he has great potential, this is taking waaaay too long for my taste. I’m soon to buy another 2 yo, and would like to up my odds on getting one that takes to barrels more quickly. I do not futurity my horses, but still want that horse that craves it n wants it. Thanks for your opinions!
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | bump |
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| There are tons. There are also ones who excel under different trainers. What works for one won't work for another, hence the lack of response here IMO. There's no magical formula that says a certain bloodline will be your unicorn. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Tons. Ok. Give me 2 ... two out of tons... just need an idea of something . How about two of YOUR ideal crosses...? I’m open! |
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| I had a DTF x FG who was born with a brain and athleticism. Everything just came so easy to him. I'd show him something once, and consider it learned. He was a natural.
This is not probably on most people's list, but I love the brains of my Magnolia Bar horses.
I am currently starting a Firewater Canyon 2 yo and a Slick by Design and they are both super laid back and smart.
There really are so many great bloodlines out there.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Some of it will also be the age at which they finally mature and grow up, not necessarily that it takes more training. The ones that take early pressure better than others will be your successful futurity horses that have long careers. I've had some that were futurity program flunkouts at 3 because they were immature and not ready to go to work that I waited a while before putting any barrel work on them and then they came on quickly at 5 or 6. An 8 year old ranch horse I had was running in the 3D in 6 weeks, and winning barrel races in 6 months.
Kinda like potty training kids--some will train early, but most of them aren't going to train until 3. You can start at 2 and struggle for a year, or you can wait until they're ready and get it done fast. |
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| Colonel Freckles or Freckles Playboy, they learn quick in my opinion and you better teach them how to do it right the first time! |
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| My Sunfrost/Lone drifter has been exceptionally easy. I think its the sire PC Joes Frost, sunfrost/boon dox john that gets the credit. I have helped break out and/or trained 3 of them and they've all been easy.
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| I can tell you which ones DON’T train quickly. Haha! I have 4 babies out of the same mare (Streakin Six/Moon Lark) and we are on a 10 year plan. |
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Location: Illinois | My 4 year old learns quickly and really enjoys the engagement of being worked. She picks things up fast and has only had maybe 70 rides on her since January 2017 and always picks up where she left off. But she is fragile minded and falls apart if pushed too fast, that's why she's a futurity reject. If you take the pressure off for a minute and let her think the light bulb typically comes on quickly. She's out of Six Moons Bully and her mom is out of Alive N Firen. I'd take more like her, I know several people with Six Moons Bully babies & they're all very pleased |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Fire Water Flit. I have a son of Firewater Finale out of a daughter of Shoot Yeah. He was started as a late 2, barely rode through the winter (I'm in WY). Rode him around the ranch as a 3 yr old and again as a 4. Started him on poles and in 2 weeks he was loping through at a nice pace. He's also started on barrels but we need some dry weather to have a dry arena to do more. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I have more exp with cowbred but one that took longer then most was my Packin Sixes filly, the lightbulb just wouldn’t come on and she was very lazy. Uncharacteristic for a streakin six bred horse.
Anything with easy jet close up was easy and athletic for me. The Eddie Stinson filly I rode was a natural also but that’s the only DTF filly I’ve ran.
I’m partial to my cowbred horses, a lot have been super easy and athletic. Especially the cutting bred ones - freckles playboy, peptoboonsmal, dual pep
My docs Solano mare thinks she’s all running bred, she’s taking longer to get the turn and rate right now
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | BigMomma - 2018-04-17 2:56 PM
I can tell you which ones DON’T train quickly. Haha! I have 4 babies out of the same mare (Streakin Six/Moon Lark) and we are on a 10 year plan.
I was going through my list of hard ones too and a couple streakin six were on there, especially my packin sixes filly |
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Location: United States | Cow-bred horses. If you want to invest in a horse that starts clocking right away, look for a cutting horse that was prepped or shown in futurities and doesn't have much of a career left in the cow horse pen. They take to barrels like fish to water, but one should know how to use their legs and seat when patterning and seasoning these types of horses, they are quick and not for the faint of heart. |
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Location: Wyoming | Take a look at the juvenile entries and those will tell you which ones pick it up quicker. Of course it also depends on the trainer. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | pippy - 2018-04-19 9:39 AM
Cow-bred horses. If you want to invest in a horse that starts clocking right away, look for a cutting horse that was prepped or shown in futurities and doesn't have much of a career left in the cow horse pen. They take to barrels like fish to water, but one should know how to use their legs and seat when patterning and seasoning these types of horses, they are quick and not for the faint of heart.
This! Many people turn their heads because they’re smaller, and I’ve find the smaller catty ones are harder to ride but oh so worth it in the end! |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | outstanding advice, thank you |
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Location: Dubach, LA | RnRJack - 2018-04-19 5:13 PM
pippy - 2018-04-19 9:39 AM
Cow-bred horses. If you want to invest in a horse that starts clocking right away, look for a cutting horse that was prepped or shown in futurities and doesn't have much of a career left in the cow horse pen. They take to barrels like fish to water, but one should know how to use their legs and seat when patterning and seasoning these types of horses, they are quick and not for the faint of heart.
This! Many people turn their heads because they’re smaller, and I’ve find the smaller catty ones are harder to ride but oh so worth it in the end!
But you are probably looking at a good deal of rear end injections and a fairly short career because they start them so young, the horses are small boned, and they are loped miles of circles daily. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | I had a FWF grandson who just knew how to run and turn but was unsound for barrels because of an injury. |
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| CanCan - 2018-04-19 6:28 PM
RnRJack - 2018-04-19 5:13 PM
pippy - 2018-04-19 9:39 AM
Cow-bred horses. If you want to invest in a horse that starts clocking right away, look for a cutting horse that was prepped or shown in futurities and doesn't have much of a career left in the cow horse pen. They take to barrels like fish to water, but one should know how to use their legs and seat when patterning and seasoning these types of horses, they are quick and not for the faint of heart.
This! Many people turn their heads because they’re smaller, and I’ve find the smaller catty ones are harder to ride but oh so worth it in the end!
But you are probably looking at a good deal of rear end injections and a fairly short career because they start them so young, the horses are small boned, and they are loped miles of circles daily.
Yes and no. If you find one that is a drop out before their futurity year, then they've only got about a years worth of cow horse boot camp so they're not worn down like a finished show horse would be. Also there's a lot more size/bone coming out of the trendy cow horse breeding than there was years ago. I've got a 4 yr old who's all cow bred and she's 15.1hh with a lot of bone and substance. |
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