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| is the MagnaWave coil safe? Their website states that they are working on getting it FDA approved & as of yet it is not. Is there any scientific research out there that can truly substantiate it other than what the manufactures claim. Is it safe to be in the vicinity while the voltages are being performed? Are the materials the coils are made of safe from exposure or to people who have heart problems or pregnant women as it works in the same way MRI's and X-rays. Who is qualified or licensed to answer health risk questions while performing this type of therapy, a doctor or veterinarian? please help me with any information. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | joemama - 2018-05-05 12:00 PM Looking for something to complain about?
I don't see anyone "complaining" .... just asking legitimate questions! However, I would post those questions to the manufacturers. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2018-05-05 12:49 PM joemama - 2018-05-05 12:00 PM Looking for something to complain about? I don't see anyone "complaining" .... just asking legitimate questions! However, I would post those questions to the manufacturers.
Did'nt see any complaining either, just questions, but I dont see where the questions will get much of a answer here.. Like NJJ and another BB said you probably really need to take it up with the manufacturers I bet they can answer your question real quick.  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I must be scientifically proven, because it is featured in
the most prestigious scientific journal in the world, “The Spanish Journal of Ozone Therapy”.
How could you go wrong? At $20K a pop, or thereabouts, I’d consider it a bargain. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | If you are interested in purchasing one of these gadgets, there are plenty of minimally used ones for sale out there.....right alongside the minimally used Theraplates. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-05-05 1:13 PM
NJJ - 2018-05-05 12:49 PM joemama - 2018-05-05 12:00 PM Looking for something to complain about? I don't see anyone "complaining" .... just asking legitimate questions! However, I would post those questions to the manufacturers.
No answers would satisfy OP, I can just tell by the thread title and post. |
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| Bear - 2018-05-05 2:58 PM
I must be scientifically proven, because it is featured in
the most prestigious scientific journal in the world, “The Spanish Journal of Ozone Therapy”.
How could you go wrong? At $20K a pop, or thereabouts, I’d consider it a bargain.
Why do some of the best NFL quarterbacks fly people across the country to perform similar procedures on them?
Not arguing, I want your legit thoughts.
I know my daughter had a horse flip over on her and messed her leg up bad. For over a year she had little feeling in large parts of her leg and still had some swelling, after one procedure the swelling went down and almost all of the feeling came back. |
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she wouldnt get goose bumps on certain parts of her leg but after that procedure she gets goosebumps like normal now. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Anecdotes can not prove efficacy. Careful scientific study can. If I have money to burn and an injury prone horse, I might buy one just to satisfy my chttp://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/equine-magnetic-therapy-positives-and-negativesuriosity..
I’m not going to spend several thousand dollars on an unproven device because of endorsements or goosebumps.
I’m not saying they don’t work. I’m not saying they do. I’m saying that I’m skeptical.
Also, I think people should make a distinction between “pain relief” and improved healing.
Like I said, there are an awful lot of used magnawaves and theraplates out there. Logic and reason makes me wonder why.
Here’s a pretty decent article dealing with the pros and cons of equine magnetic therapy:
http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/equine-magnetic-therapy-positives-...
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| Bear - 2018-05-05 4:09 PM
Anecdotes can not prove efficacy. Careful scientific study can. If I have money to burn and an injury prone horse, I might buy one just to satisfy my chttp://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/equine-magnetic-therapy-positives-and-negativesuriosity..
I’m not going to spend several thousand dollars on an unproven device because of endorsements or goosebumps.
I’m not saying they don’t work. I’m not saying they do. I’m saying that I’m skeptical.
Also, I think people should make a distinction between “pain relief” and improved healing.
Like I said, there are an awful lot of used magnawaves and theraplates out there. Logic and reason makes me wonder why.
Here’s a pretty decent article dealing with the pros and cons of equine magnetic therapy:
http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/equine-magnetic-therapy-positives-...
Cant disagree with any of that. |
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Location: Mountains of VA | Another big $$$$ gimmick |
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| Thank you all for your comments. I reviewed their website and they state their PEMF devices treat breast cancer. Has anyone out there have testimonials to confirm this, I would appreciate it very much. Articles such as: PEMF Therapy Information-PEMF Devices and machine reviews-the dangers of "high" voltage PEMF Devices, Equimed.com/pulsed electromagnetic devices pose health risks, Magnetic Therapy: a skeptical view by Stephen Barrett,MD, Magnetic and electromagnetic Therapy by David Ramey,DVM and fda.gov/curatronic Ltd.1/9/13 warning letter pronounce controversy. We all want the truth when it comes to health awareness and not a ways and means to get rich quick if it means someone or an animal getting seriously hurt or killed. I'ts your precious life, your pets or even your loved one. Just please know the facts, it is your decision and responsibility to know all you can. Thank you |
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| It's not a gimmick.
It does help muscle soreness. Get hurt and try it on yourself and you can feel the muscles loosen up so you can move. It's great for injury but is a lil light for some things I'd rather just go shock wave one.
It's a useful tool but it doesn't do anymore than a good deep tissue massage. Also, to really relieve pain it needs to be used a few days in a row. Lots of trainers have one they use weekly for soreness from just galloping and works. It's helpful and has it's place....no gimmick. To me therapies like this can be put in the same category as mudding a horse's leg. It makes them feel slightly better. |
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Location: Illinois | I've had it used on mine and I felt it made a difference, everyone is going to have their own opinion though. BOT, PHT, Hidez etc are all controversial too but yet we all keep buying them. Where I get mine done it's $50 so it would take doing 400 horses just to break even on the machine, so my guess is a lot of the ones for sale are people who couldn't afford the payments because they couldn't get enough horses coming to them. They charge $75 if they have to drive to you with it. Several of my friends have used it on themselves and will swear by it, so it's all just a personal thing in my opinion. A friend of mine bought a Theraplate to take to barrel races figuring she could get customers all day and would get maybe 2 a day for $20, so she sold it. We all get sucked into things, not just horse stuff and sometimes it works for us & sometimes it doesn't. As for health risks I'd have no idea, but I have some heart issues and it doesn't bother me at all when I'm near or touching it. |
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Location: North Dakota | joemama - 2018-05-05 4:41 PM Bear - 2018-05-05 4:09 PM Anecdotes can not prove efficacy. Careful scientific study can. If I have money to burn and an injury prone horse, I might buy one just to satisfy my chttp://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/equine-magnetic-therapy-positives-and-negativesuriosity.. I’m not going to spend several thousand dollars on an unproven device because of endorsements or goosebumps. I’m not saying they don’t work. I’m not saying they do. I’m saying that I’m skeptical. Also, I think people should make a distinction between “pain relief” and improved healing. Like I said, there are an awful lot of used magnawaves and theraplates out there. Logic and reason makes me wonder why. Here’s a pretty decent article dealing with the pros and cons of equine magnetic therapy: http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/equine-magnetic-therapy-positives-... Cant disagree with any of that.
The above article is static magnetic therapy. The magnawave is pulsating magnetic therapy. BIG difference. Pulsating magnetic therapy IS used in the medical field and there are lots of studies. |
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Location: North Dakota | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-05-10 1:09 PM It's not a gimmick. It does help muscle soreness. Get hurt and try it on yourself and you can feel the muscles loosen up so you can move. It's great for injury but is a lil light for some things I'd rather just go shock wave one. It's a useful tool but it doesn't do anymore than a good deep tissue massage. Also, to really relieve pain it needs to be used a few days in a row. Lots of trainers have one they use weekly for soreness from just galloping and works. It's helpful and has it's place....no gimmick. To me therapies like this can be put in the same category as mudding a horse's leg. It makes them feel slightly better.
runfastturnsmooth - you are correct! Its not a gimmick. A gimmick (in my opinion) is static field magnetic therapy NOT pulsating magnetic therapy such as the MagnaWave. I cannot proclaim its gimmickness when it comes to how we want to treat our horses but there are studies done on humans with PULSATING magnetic therapy. HUGE DIFFERENCE. |
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| Runnincat - 2018-05-10 4:18 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2018-05-10 1:09 PM It's not a gimmick. It does help muscle soreness. Get hurt and try it on yourself and you can feel the muscles loosen up so you can move. It's great for injury but is a lil light for some things I'd rather just go shock wave one. It's a useful tool but it doesn't do anymore than a good deep tissue massage. Also, to really relieve pain it needs to be used a few days in a row. Lots of trainers have one they use weekly for soreness from just galloping and works. It's helpful and has it's place....no gimmick. To me therapies like this can be put in the same category as mudding a horse's leg. It makes them feel slightly better.
runfastturnsmooth - you are correct! Its not a gimmick. A gimmick (in my opinion) is static field magnetic therapy NOT pulsating magnetic therapy such as the MagnaWave. I cannot proclaim its gimmickness when it comes to how we want to treat our horses but there are studies done on humans with PULSATING magnetic therapy. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
You usually don't see gimmicks wrote on the stall charts daily and weekly for Kentucky Derby and All American winners lol
They don't waste a groom's or assistant trainers time magna waving one b/c its a gimick....time is money to those ppl.
Does it fix a broke leg? No.
Is it gonna repair a tore tendon? No.
Is gonna make them feel better after hard works? Yes, you can visibly see and feel the difference. Especially if they have a sore neck from fighting the rig in the gates. It straight makes one be able to move eat and act normal afterwards. That's no gimmick and its a valuable therapy tool when a horse doesn't wanna eat hay drink or eat bc it's neck is sore. |
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