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zansbeunogal_2268
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2018-06-04 9:06 AM
Subject: one product first, which one??


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Good morning!

So I'm torn on which therapy product I should purchase first for my mare, I can only afford to buy one at the moment! I will at a later time buy the other!

so my mare has a history of "choking" she has had multiple scopes, and due to allergies and inflammation her upper larynx will close shut and causes her to loose her wind.

she hasn't (knock on wood) done it in over a year, I have taken her off all processed feeds, treated her for inflammation and now have her on curost and I haven't had an episode yet! she will breath a bit heavier if its really humid out, or dusty, something that can irritate her allergies.

I was thinking and looking into buying a nebulizer for her, I dont know much about them and need to do some more research,

or the other product I want to buy is a pht blanket.

she has a tendency to get really tight and on the muscle and get worked up, so I want something to help her "calm down" and relax, which also does help her breathing...

I do plan on hauling quite a bit more this year,

what would you buy first for her???
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RedHead84
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2018-06-04 9:11 AM
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I would go for the nebulizer first. Respiratory is pretty important. You can get a Silver Horse Care kit pretty reasonable then you can figure out your maintenance schedule. All horses are different.
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GoMistyGo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2018-06-04 9:27 AM
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Have you tried Equipulmin on her?  I'm contemplating tryig it on my mare...  just wondering of you had any thoughts on it?
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-06-04 9:33 AM
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zansbeunogal_2268 - 2018-06-04 9:06 AM

Good morning!

So I'm torn on which therapy product I should purchase first for my mare, I can only afford to buy one at the moment! I will at a later time buy the other!

so my mare has a history of "choking" she has had multiple scopes, and due to allergies and inflammation her upper larynx will close shut and causes her to loose her wind.

she hasn't (knock on wood) done it in over a year, I have taken her off all processed feeds, treated her for inflammation and now have her on curost and I haven't had an episode yet! she will breath a bit heavier if its really humid out, or dusty, something that can irritate her allergies.

I was thinking and looking into buying a nebulizer for her, I dont know much about them and need to do some more research,

or the other product I want to buy is a pht blanket.

she has a tendency to get really tight and on the muscle and get worked up, so I want something to help her "calm down" and relax, which also does help her breathing...

I do plan on hauling quite a bit more this year,

what would you buy first for her???

If she has reactive airway disease, then I’d get a nebulizer for inhaled steroids and bronchodilators like albuterol. If her choking spells really are because of a problem with her “upper larynx” then I wouldn’t expect those things to help much, because they only work on smaller airways further down, like bronchioles.... not the larynx so much. In general, a nebulizer is a nice piece of equipment to have on hand, though. Magnetic blankets are less crucial.
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RedHead84
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2018-06-04 9:33 AM
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GoMistyGo - 2018-06-04 9:27 AM

Have you tried Equipulmin on her?  I'm contemplating tryig it on my mare...  just wondering of you had any thoughts on it?

I was just going to edit my response to add EquiPulmin! I have actually been able to back off my need for a nebulizer since I started EquiPulmin. It has worked very well for my mare. If you have any questions, shoot me a message! I became a dealer...I only sell what I use!
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TheDutchMan01
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2018-06-04 9:40 AM
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I would get a nebulizer....highly recommend the silver horse. The down and dirty kit would be all you need.

I see how you are trying to justify the pht...I'm sure you're like us all and just want one. In all honesty its not going to be much benefit unless you have one that is sore. I don't notice any calming effects. My one horse does snooze in his, but as far as being at the trailer with it on or my other nervous horse...they don't act any different. Plus when its REALLY hot at a show I don't use mine, unless they are under a fan in a stall.
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zansbeunogal_2268
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2018-06-04 9:57 AM
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RedHead84 - 2018-06-04 9:33 AM

GoMistyGo - 2018-06-04 9:27 AM

Have you tried Equipulmin on her?  I'm contemplating tryig it on my mare...  just wondering of you had any thoughts on it?

I was just going to edit my response to add EquiPulmin! I have actually been able to back off my need for a nebulizer since I started EquiPulmin. It has worked very well for my mare. If you have any questions, shoot me a message! I became a dealer...I only sell what I use!

thanks for your reply!!
I should of added, I already do have her on equipulmin, I do have a question about it though, I am giving it to her once a day at feeding time, should I be giving her a shot before I run as well? or once a day is okay?
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RedHead84
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2018-06-04 10:01 AM
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zansbeunogal_2268 - 2018-06-04 9:57 AM

RedHead84 - 2018-06-04 9:33 AM

GoMistyGo - 2018-06-04 9:27 AM

Have you tried Equipulmin on her?  I'm contemplating tryig it on my mare...  just wondering of you had any thoughts on it?

I was just going to edit my response to add EquiPulmin! I have actually been able to back off my need for a nebulizer since I started EquiPulmin. It has worked very well for my mare. If you have any questions, shoot me a message! I became a dealer...I only sell what I use!

thanks for your reply!!
I should of added, I already do have her on equipulmin, I do have a question about it though, I am giving it to her once a day at feeding time, should I be giving her a shot before I run as well? or once a day is okay?

Great! Yes, I would definitely dose before you run. I actually do 120cc about 45 min before I run. It works well for me.
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zansbeunogal_2268
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2018-06-04 10:04 AM
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Bear - 2018-06-04 9:33 AM

zansbeunogal_2268 - 2018-06-04 9:06 AM

Good morning!

So I'm torn on which therapy product I should purchase first for my mare, I can only afford to buy one at the moment! I will at a later time buy the other!

so my mare has a history of "choking" she has had multiple scopes, and due to allergies and inflammation her upper larynx will close shut and causes her to loose her wind.

she hasn't (knock on wood) done it in over a year, I have taken her off all processed feeds, treated her for inflammation and now have her on curost and I haven't had an episode yet! she will breath a bit heavier if its really humid out, or dusty, something that can irritate her allergies.

I was thinking and looking into buying a nebulizer for her, I dont know much about them and need to do some more research,

or the other product I want to buy is a pht blanket.

she has a tendency to get really tight and on the muscle and get worked up, so I want something to help her "calm down" and relax, which also does help her breathing...

I do plan on hauling quite a bit more this year,

what would you buy first for her???

If she has reactive airway disease, then I’d get a nebulizer for inhaled steroids and bronchodilators like albuterol. If her choking spells really are because of a problem with her “upper larynx” then I wouldn’t expect those things to help much, because they only work on smaller airways further down, like bronchioles.... not the larynx so much. In general, a nebulizer is a nice piece of equipment to have on hand, though. Magnetic blankets are less crucial.

oh thank you for the reply!
well its her trachea that collapses right behind her epiglottis, which functions properly and healthy! I wish I took pics of the collapse and inflammation, she has been healthy but of course I want to maintain it!

is there any products that I can nebulize that would help this?
she is also a good candidate that could become a bleeder, we are keeping our eyes on this, she hasn't yet, butttt it can happen one day!
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-06-04 10:33 AM
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zansbeunogal_2268 - 2018-06-04 10:04 AM

Bear - 2018-06-04 9:33 AM

zansbeunogal_2268 - 2018-06-04 9:06 AM

Good morning!

So I'm torn on which therapy product I should purchase first for my mare, I can only afford to buy one at the moment! I will at a later time buy the other!

so my mare has a history of "choking" she has had multiple scopes, and due to allergies and inflammation her upper larynx will close shut and causes her to loose her wind.

she hasn't (knock on wood) done it in over a year, I have taken her off all processed feeds, treated her for inflammation and now have her on curost and I haven't had an episode yet! she will breath a bit heavier if its really humid out, or dusty, something that can irritate her allergies.

I was thinking and looking into buying a nebulizer for her, I dont know much about them and need to do some more research,

or the other product I want to buy is a pht blanket.

she has a tendency to get really tight and on the muscle and get worked up, so I want something to help her "calm down" and relax, which also does help her breathing...

I do plan on hauling quite a bit more this year,

what would you buy first for her???

If she has reactive airway disease, then I’d get a nebulizer for inhaled steroids and bronchodilators like albuterol. If her choking spells really are because of a problem with her “upper larynx” then I wouldn’t expect those things to help much, because they only work on smaller airways further down, like bronchioles.... not the larynx so much. In general, a nebulizer is a nice piece of equipment to have on hand, though. Magnetic blankets are less crucial.

oh thank you for the reply!
well its her trachea that collapses right behind her epiglottis, which functions properly and healthy! I wish I took pics of the collapse and inflammation, she has been healthy but of course I want to maintain it!

is there any products that I can nebulize that would help this?
she is also a good candidate that could become a bleeder, we are keeping our eyes on this, she hasn't yet, butttt it can happen one day!

You’d have to check with your vet about this, but it sounds like you are describing a problem with the cartilage and trachea being weak or defective. “Chondromalacia” would be the term in humans. When there is exertion, the increased negative pressure in the airway tends to get sucked in. Imagine sucking water from a straw. Normally, you suck and the straw doesn’t collapse. If you suck hard, like we do with a milkshake, the straw can collapse. That’s what happens with exertion. I would think that repeated episodes of this could produce inflammation in the upper airway, so I would imagine inhaled steroids might help. In fact, before heavy exercise or a run, bronchodilators might even help some.
This is why I think a nebulizer for your horse would come in handy.
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zansbeunogal_2268
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2018-06-04 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: one product first, which one??


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Bear - 2018-06-04 10:33 AM

zansbeunogal_2268 - 2018-06-04 10:04 AM

Bear - 2018-06-04 9:33 AM

zansbeunogal_2268 - 2018-06-04 9:06 AM

Good morning!

So I'm torn on which therapy product I should purchase first for my mare, I can only afford to buy one at the moment! I will at a later time buy the other!

so my mare has a history of "choking" she has had multiple scopes, and due to allergies and inflammation her upper larynx will close shut and causes her to loose her wind.

she hasn't (knock on wood) done it in over a year, I have taken her off all processed feeds, treated her for inflammation and now have her on curost and I haven't had an episode yet! she will breath a bit heavier if its really humid out, or dusty, something that can irritate her allergies.

I was thinking and looking into buying a nebulizer for her, I dont know much about them and need to do some more research,

or the other product I want to buy is a pht blanket.

she has a tendency to get really tight and on the muscle and get worked up, so I want something to help her "calm down" and relax, which also does help her breathing...

I do plan on hauling quite a bit more this year,

what would you buy first for her???

If she has reactive airway disease, then I’d get a nebulizer for inhaled steroids and bronchodilators like albuterol. If her choking spells really are because of a problem with her “upper larynx” then I wouldn’t expect those things to help much, because they only work on smaller airways further down, like bronchioles.... not the larynx so much. In general, a nebulizer is a nice piece of equipment to have on hand, though. Magnetic blankets are less crucial.

oh thank you for the reply!
well its her trachea that collapses right behind her epiglottis, which functions properly and healthy! I wish I took pics of the collapse and inflammation, she has been healthy but of course I want to maintain it!

is there any products that I can nebulize that would help this?
she is also a good candidate that could become a bleeder, we are keeping our eyes on this, she hasn't yet, butttt it can happen one day!

You’d have to check with your vet about this, but it sounds like you are describing a problem with the cartilage and trachea being weak or defective. “Chondromalacia” would be the term in humans. When there is exertion, the increased negative pressure in the airway tends to get sucked in. Imagine sucking water from a straw. Normally, you suck and the straw doesn’t collapse. If you suck hard, like we do with a milkshake, the straw can collapse. That’s what happens with exertion. I would think that repeated episodes of this could produce inflammation in the upper airway, so I would imagine inhaled steroids might help. In fact, before heavy exercise or a run, bronchodilators might even help some.
This is why I think a nebulizer for your horse would come in handy.

Yes! thats exactly what happens with her!

I sent you a pm with a few more questions!
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