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Location: Rodeos or Baseball games | Just wanting to know if anyone has tried Race today from Vetline
on their bleeder?
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Location: Louisiana | I know people it did and didn't work for.
I had read about it, but choose to just stick to lasix. But had a friend tell me about it working great for their mild bleeder (yes they had him scoped more than once, no they don't sell it).
So my sister tried it, and her gelding still bled, so she is just sticking to lasix for now.
Another thing to consider is fitness level though...I know the horse it did work on was WAY more "fit" than my sister's horse. |
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| I just started it a week ago....... I have a mare that gets 5cc lasix and is a mild bleeder and a gelding that gets 10cc and is a bad bleeder. I ran the mare the other day and gave her 4cc and she won!! So going to drop hers to 4cc for a couple weeks and then hopefully get her to 3cc ish...... My gelding...... not sure I will ever quit the lasix..... certainly not for awhile now until I can be super confident in it! My horses are in very good shape so I know that helps with bleeders. Will be curious to others experiences! I decided to try it as it wasn't super expensive, I give the 4oz to each horse
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Looking for Lady Jockey
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Location: Oklahoma | I started 2 days ago! and my horse is not a bleeder he has copd and humidity is not for him! his resp. usually in the 40's, I was so amazed after one dose (I took him off his resp. stuff bc you cannot feed any herbs with it) I dosed pm and the next morning I couldn't believe the change! I thought no way! I checked his resp it was 30 at 90% humidity! he got a dose that morning then that evening he was nickering like crazy at me when he saw me and he was running and bucking! I mean running hard in the pasture! I was in tears! I checked his resp this morning (3rd day) it is 24 at 87% humidity! I am a believer! I am not running yet legging up til I get the ok from vet on another issue. This poor guy has had so much trouble with his breathing! every year my husband always says you just not gonna be able to do anything during the summer on him. The last week I haven't been able to ride him bc he looked so miserable and exhausted! This here is my horse saver! His coat always looked good but it looks richer in the last 2 days but I thing its bc he able to utilize his oxygen! The lady that sells it she said it is made for bleeders but has had some luck with allergies. He doesn't do good on steroids everyday bc of his epm so I have had to look alternatives. So glad I tried! It is worth every penny. I am shocked after one dose what it did! He is also on their electrolytes too. I cannot wait to ride him tom morning! I wanted to wait at least a couple days to get in his system. |
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Location: sunny california | Is there an ingredient list?
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Looking for Lady Jockey
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Location: Rodeos or Baseball games | The ingredients are listed on vetlineequine.com |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | GOIN' FAST - 2018-06-22 12:03 PM
The ingredients are listed on vetlineequine.com
I only saw the nutrition facts, not an ingredient list. I want to know what forms of the various vitamins and minerals they use |
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Location: NE TX | kwanatha - 2018-06-22 2:14 PM
GOIN' FAST - 2018-06-22 12:03 PM
The ingredients are listed on vetlineequine.com
I only saw the nutrition facts, not an ingredient list. I want to know what forms of the various vitamins and minerals they use
I can take a picture of the label when I get to feed tonight. |
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Location: NE TX | I switched about 8 months ago. My mare fall 2016 bled through 5cc of lasix with no other supplements. I put her on Bleeder Stop spring last year when I brought her back and was still giving 5cc and she still acted when it got hot like she may be having some bleeding issues. I switched to the Race Today last fall and am now giving 3cc of lasix and she isn't winning anything and hasn't incredibly increased her timing or anything (I am thinking too much scar tissue), but what I do know is she is happier cause she feels better and the lower lasix is helping her recover faster after a run. Like another poster said I will probably never take her off lasix completely just due to the fact that I am scared for her to bleed again cause she bled so bad in the past and she is the only one I have right now. What I can tell you though, is that she will never come off of Race Today either! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | This is what I came up with..
Well heck I had to keep sizing this to post and now its to darn small to read, oh well I tryed for your guys.. 
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Location: NE TX | Southtxponygirl - 2018-06-22 4:43 PM
This is what I came up with.. Â
Well heck I had to keep sizing this to post and now its to darn small to read, oh well I tryed for your guys..Â
I thought it gave more details on the label, but all it says under ingredients is: “A special proprietary blend PLUS vitamins and minerals in a molasses base that horses love.
Guaranteed Analysis:
Vitamin A 880,000 IU
Vitamin D 20,000 IU
Vitamin E 240 IU
Calcium (min) 1.5%
Calcium (max) 2.5%
Analysis based on one-pound increments, according to oxidation.
Edited to add: I dose my mare 2pz per day and then 4oz a day the day before and the days I race. You can give up to 6oz
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| Â Is there any scientific research behind this? Case studies? I'm just wondering how vitamins and minerals cause a horse not to bleed. These supplements scare me if all I see is vitamins listed.... What is the magic ingredient? Telling people it can replace Lasix is a big claim. Just like equipulmin.... They will not share any case studies with customers because they say they are just a supplement and they can't publicly post them due to the fda... But they have done some. They tell you to read testimonials.... Hmmm. When both Kentucky equine research and Kentucky Performance products supplements do research on their supplements all the time and publish the information. Nothing wrong with saying it can help but claiming you can pull horses completely off of Lasix is a big deal in my mind. BTW the supplement label says its eliminates symptoms of bleeding... What does that mean?
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Location: Oklahoma | Vitamins and minerals does so much! Especially minerals! I totally understand where you are coming from on the ingredients but it’s not just but/min. There is a respiratory blend and that maybe what is helping these horses! I don’t care bout the studies I know of a horse personally that has bled thru Lasix and Kentucky red. She gave this stuff for ten days and pulled lasix. Ran 3 days had horse scooped and clean as a whistle. And she back to winning. When your horse can’t breathe and has no energy by he can’t breathe and is no longer the horse you knew and you have a friends personal experience with a product and have another friend with excellent results I’m gonna try! And boy am I glad I did! I have tried steroids and different herbs from different people it helps but doesn’t get my horse to breathe from 40s at rest to 20 at rest with humility at 75% to 97% and he has only been on it 4-5 days! So no I don’t care bout the studies! I care bout my horse! For my horse with copd and can’t ride last week bc he so miserable to being able to ride is a huge blessing! This may not work for every horse but it sure worth the try bc lasix is so hard on horse to be honest I never would have tried if it wasn’t for my friends horse and all she has tried to help her bleeder. She was bout ready to give up. So glad she didnt |
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Gettin Jiggy Wit It
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| Turnburnsis - 2018-06-23 6:22 PM
Vitamins and minerals does so much! Especially minerals! I totally understand where you are coming from on the ingredients but it’s not just but/min. There is a respiratory blend and that maybe what is helping these horses! I don’t care bout the studies I know of a horse personally that has bled thru Lasix and Kentucky red. She gave this stuff for ten days and pulled lasix. Ran 3 days had horse scooped and clean as a whistle. And she back to winning. When your horse can’t breathe and has no energy by he can’t breathe and is no longer the horse you knew and you have a friends personal experience with a product and have another friend with excellent results I’m gonna try! And boy am I glad I did! I have tried steroids and different herbs from different people it helps but doesn’t get my horse to breathe from 40s at rest to 20 at rest with humility at 75% to 97% and he has only been on it 4-5 days! So no I don’t care bout the studies! I care bout my horse! For my horse with copd and can’t ride last week bc he so miserable to being able to ride is a huge blessing! This may not work for every horse but it sure worth the try bc lasix is so hard on horse to be honest I never would have tried if it wasn’t for my friends horse and all she has tried to help her bleeder. She was bout ready to give up. So glad she didnt
 i have a horse that I've spent a ton of money on supplements, tests and treatments for respiratory disease. Nothing helped but proper management. Steroids only control so much unless you figure out the source of the allergy and remove it from the horse's environment. 90% if the time if a horse has respiratory allergies it is hay.. Even good quality hay. I removed hay and put my horse on cubes and it saved his life. Summer pasture is a contributing factor to a few horses but again removing them during high pollen is part of management. Supplements were just a bandaid and steroids worked until you had to take him off.... If it is working for you that is fantastic. I'm so glad. Obviously vitamins and minerals are important... A well balanced diet is most important actually. Not getting enough causes problems but also Over doing minerals vitamins is also a huge issue... |
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Location: Oklahoma | WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-06-24 12:00 AM
Turnburnsis - 2018-06-23 6:22 PM
Vitamins and minerals does so much! Especially minerals! I totally understand where you are coming from on the ingredients but it’s not just but/min. There is a respiratory blend and that maybe what is helping these horses! I don’t care bout the studies I know of a horse personally that has bled thru Lasix and Kentucky red. She gave this stuff for ten days and pulled lasix. Ran 3 days had horse scooped and clean as a whistle. And she back to winning. When your horse can’t breathe and has no energy by he can’t breathe and is no longer the horse you knew and you have a friends personal experience with a product and have another friend with excellent results I’m gonna try! And boy am I glad I did! I have tried steroids and different herbs from different people it helps but doesn’t get my horse to breathe from 40s at rest to 20 at rest with humility at 75% to 97% and he has only been on it 4-5 days! So no I don’t care bout the studies! I care bout my horse! For my horse with copd and can’t ride last week bc he so miserable to being able to ride is a huge blessing! This may not work for every horse but it sure worth the try bc lasix is so hard on horse to be honest I never would have tried if it wasn’t for my friends horse and all she has tried to help her bleeder. She was bout ready to give up. So glad she didnt
 i have a horse that I've spent a ton of money on supplements, tests and treatments for respiratory disease. Nothing helped but proper management. Steroids only control so much unless you figure out the source of the allergy and remove it from the horse's environment. 90% if the time if a horse has respiratory allergies it is hay.. Even good quality hay. I removed hay and put my horse on cubes and it saved his life. Summer pasture is a contributing factor to a few horses but again removing them during high pollen is part of management. Supplements were just a bandaid and steroids worked until you had to take him off.... If it is working for you that is fantastic. I'm so glad. Obviously vitamins and minerals are important... A well balanced diet is most important actually. Not getting enough causes problems but also Over doing minerals vitamins is also a huge issue...
Yup totally agree with you. I had the allergy test and removed what I could it made a difference but I cant remove everything unfortunately. Not all product gonna work on every horse, I wish the rules with horses was black and white and easy to follow! Sometimes diet not enough. I wish that it was enough! |
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Location: Texas | I did loading dose for two months and still gave lasix. I was fixing to try to start decreasing my lasix and hopefully gradually get him off, when he bled through both. My horse isn’t a severe bleeder. But I thought if nothing else if this serves as a back up and helps if I miss my timing ect. It didn’t work for mine but I do know several that have been running no lasix for a while and random scoped with no bleeding. I would try it but really pay attention to your horse and make sure you get scoped ect. |
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Looking for Lady Jockey
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Location: Rodeos or Baseball games | I decided to try Race Today, started feeding it June 23rd, I started out feeding 6oz. I had my first race since feeding it on July 1st. It was hot a dry, warmed her up no different. She ran great and did not bleed. Had her scoped..........nothing. I have ran her 5 times since and she is doing great! NO LASIX!! She feels great and loves the taste of Race Today. This week I have lowered the dose to 4 oz.
I am very happy with this product and would recommend it to anyone!
One vet that I talked to said they are using it a lot on a track that we works at and he thinks it will take over for Lasix they have had that much success with it.
Just thought I would share.
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A Cool Sharp One
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| Turnburnsis - 2018-06-21 3:46 PM
I started 2 days ago! and my horse is not a bleeder he has copd and humidity is not for him! his resp. usually in the 40's, I was so amazed after one dose (I took him off his resp. stuff bc you cannot feed any herbs with it) I dosed pm and the next morning I couldn't believe the change! I thought no way! I checked his resp it was 30 at 90% humidity! he got a dose that morning then that evening he was nickering like crazy at me when he saw me and he was running and bucking! I mean running hard in the pasture! I was in tears! I checked his resp this morning (3rd day) it is 24 at 87% humidity! I am a believer! I am not running yet legging up til I get the ok from vet on another issue. This poor guy has had so much trouble with his breathing! every year my husband always says you just not gonna be able to do anything during the summer on him. The last week I haven't been able to ride him bc he looked so miserable and exhausted! This here is my horse saver! His coat always looked good but it looks richer in the last 2 days but I thing its bc he able to utilize his oxygen! The lady that sells it she said it is made for bleeders but has had some luck with allergies. He doesn't do good on steroids everyday bc of his epm so I have had to look alternatives. So glad I tried! It is worth every penny. I am shocked after one dose what it did! He is also on their electrolytes too. I cannot wait to ride him tom morning! I wanted to wait at least a couple days to get in his system.
Editing my post because I found my answer :)
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