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This was written by Ned Ryun, Fox News, and it is the best summation of our immigration crisis I’ve read so far. Well worth reading:
The American people need to have a realistic, rational conversation about our immigration policy moving forward to determine our nation’s future.
By our nature, we are a generous and caring people. We are pained to hear the cries of children separated from their parents at our southern border, even when the parents have violated our immigration laws.
And we understand that the family separations that dominated the news in the past week were not the Trump administration’s finest moment; nor was the Obama administration's dismal record on immigration anything to brag about.
It’s not hard to understand how the political tin ears of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and President Trump’s senior adviser Stephen Miller misjudged public reaction to the separation of children from their illegal immigrant parents.
Sessions, who was a U.S. senator from Alabama before President Trump picked him to be attorney general, hasn’t had a tough political race in years. Miller is a policy guy, somewhat removed from the realities and implications of the political fallout from an inhumane policy. On top of this, the White House political shop is weak. Add this all up, and you can see how the immigration debacle took shape.
Many of us on the center-right understand the plight of the illegal immigrants showing up at the U.S.-Mexico border. We understand that 43 of the 50 most violent cities in the world are in Central America and that several countries south of our border are on the path to becoming failed states. We understand that the drug cartels are running rampant in Mexico and causing a massive breakdown of civil society and the rule of law.
But we also understand that America cannot absorb everyone in the world who would like to move here. The United Nations estimates there are 7.6 billion people in the world. According to U.S. Census Bureau, the U.S. population is about 328 million. What if more people would want to come to our country under an open-border policy than already live here?
The American taxpayer is not obligated to fund the safety net for the poor people who Mexico is encouraging to leave that country and become our problem. We are not obligated to be the backstop for Central American countries’ utter failure to create democracies that will lead to free markets and free people.
While we are a generous people, we are also a realistic people driven by a sense of fairness and common sense, with our own fiscal, social and political challenges to address. It would be wonderful if we could solve all the world’s problems, but that simply isn’t realistic.
We have this current immigration mess because of an unholy alliance on immigration policy between Democrats and certain elements of the Republican Party. This has already put the American taxpayer under duress.
Democrats have sought political gain by admitting more immigrants. The Chamber of Commerce-business interests inside the Republican Party have sought short-term business gains through willing and cheap immigrant labor. But be assured, in their pursuit of political and financial gain, both parties have sold out the American taxpayer and the future of our country.
The American taxpayer, already bowed by a significant tax burden thanks to the ruling class of Democrats and Republicans, is now required to fund upwards of $130 billion a year for illegal immigrants in our country.
And if we continue on the current trajectory, taxpayers are going to be asked to shoulder an even greater financial burden. What is going to happen in 10 or 15 years, when increased automation wipes out millions of the low-skilled and unskilled jobs that many immigrants now hold, sharply increasing their rate of unemployment and making it impossible for many to find new jobs?
There will either be unrest and potential bloodshed in the streets, or the millions of people out of work will be thrown onto our already overstressed social welfare programs. And the only way those programs will be able to withstand the stress is if the American taxpayer is hit with crushing tax increases.
We must choose today what our country will become in less than a generation. There is a desperate need for immigration reform right now, before it’s too late.
Understanding political realities, many on the center-right are willing to make compromises to give our nation a more sensible immigration policy. One element of this compromise would be to create a path to citizenship for the nearly 700,000 illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children and now protected by the DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) program – but we will do this only in return for major concessions from Democrats.
These concessions include: full funding to improve security on our southern border, including to build the wall candidate Trump promised the American people we would get if he was elected president; an end to chain migration; an end to sanctuary cities that refuse to work with the federal government to enforce our nation’s immigration laws; mandatory use by all employers of the federal government’s E-Verify system to electronically confirm if a person is authorized to work in the U.S.; and the implementation of a merit-based immigration system similar to those used by Canada and Australia.
But many conservatives refuse to budge on key issues, such as a path to citizenship. They want Democrats to give up all their positions without getting anything from Republicans in return. This is unreasonable and will ensure our nation’s continued inability to fix our broken immigration system.
Here I would look back at history for some guidance. There was no greater force for racist public policy in the first 60 years of the 20th century and earlier than the Democratic Party, particularly the Democratic Party in the South. Yet because President Lyndon Johnson bent to the social upheaval in the 1960s, it is Democrats who are now somehow viewed as the great advocates for hard-fought social change – when in fact, their party was one of the greatest obstacles to change until fairly recent history.
Republicans can make the argument that when it comes to addressing illegal immigration, their position is on far more solid moral and policy ground than the efforts of Democrats before the 1960s to block civil rights for black Americans.
The only reason Democrats are now blocking real immigration reform is because they want to use illegal immigrants for political gain. Republicans now have the opportunity to transform our party and our nation by embracing real immigration reform: solving DACA, strengthening border security, and making clear our willingness to help legitimate asylum seekers. This could very well turn political realities on their head.
Democrats do not want immigration reform that puts the American people first; they are perfectly content with the broken system as it is. They want chain migration and other forms of migration to continue because they believe millions of new immigrants will most likely become Democratic voters after becoming U.S. citizens. And, in fact, twice as many chain migrants have typically voted for Democrats than for Republicans.
What this means is that Democrats in Congress are willing to sell out the best interests of the American people to bring in as many immigrants as they can to increase their chances of grabbing control of the U.S. House and Senate, the White House and state offices for years to come.
While the last week has resulted in angry and at times ugly debate about how we will approach immigration reform, it has brought a certain degree of clarity to the debate.
Will we have open borders and amnesty for anyone who comes to this country, and thereby set our children and grandchildren up to pay higher taxes and get fewer government services, so government can fund billions of dollars in programs for a massive wave of new immigrants?
Or will we choose to be a sovereign nation, protecting our taxpayers by securing our southern border and implementing a fair, streamlined and merit- based immigration system moving forward?
The choice is with the American people. The next few elections will signal what America will be as a nation in just a few decades from now. | |
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Location: OH. IO | It is a good read and I agree 100 percent.To think the Dems are selling out our own people just to get votes and have the majority,then take everything we have is DISCUSTING.To ignore and not show that most of these children have already been abandoned by their parents,and paid the drug cartel to bring them here should open the eyes of democrats ,but no,they refuse to see it.WE NEED THE WALL,WE NEED CLOSED BORDERS,WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN.AND PELOSI AND SHUMER NEED TO GO AWAY.PERHAPS TO MEXICO. I support our presidents thoughts on the wall,and taking care of AMERICANS!Edited to add...I get so mad that the democrats are so mean to our own people,that if I misspelled anything I APPOLOGIZE
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | You know what, these crazy thinking people will never stop untill we have no borders and they have destroyed everything that was fought for to keep our freedom and our way of life that we know.. They will never stop!!! | |
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Location: OH. IO | IF WE DONT GET MORE PEOPLE REGISTERED AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING,WE WILL ALL LOOSE OUR FREEDOM:(AND IT WILL BE IN OUR LIFETIME
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I found this to be a sobering prediction:
“And if we continue on the current trajectory, taxpayers are going to be asked to shoulder an even greater financial burden. What is going to happen in 10 or 15 years, when increased automation wipes out millions of the low-skilled and unskilled jobs that many immigrants now hold, sharply increasing their rate of unemployment and making it impossible for many to find new jobs?”
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Location: Arkansas | Thank you for posting this. Enlightening but also very scary. . . . Compassion, yes, but not to the detriment of our great nation, and most of all OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN. | |
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Location: OH. IO | Bear - 2018-06-24 7:55 PM
I found this to be a sobering prediction:
“And if we continue on the current trajectory, taxpayers are going to be asked to shoulder an even greater financial burden. What is going to happen in 10 or 15 years, when increased automation wipes out millions of the low-skilled and unskilled jobs that many immigrants now hold, sharply increasing their rate of unemployment and making it impossible for many to find new jobs?”
VERY eye opening,and very scary.More gangs,more thugs more M13,more evil and MORE TIME ON THEIR HANDS TO TAKE US DOWN. | |
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Location: OH. IO | Chandler's Mom - 2018-06-24 8:12 PM
Thank you for posting this. Enlightening but also very scary. . . . Compassion, yes, but not to the detriment of our great nation, and most of all OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN.
compassion yes,BUT ONLY AFTER THEY FIND COMPASSION FOR THEMSELVES,more than half of these children that they are accusing trump of seperatly,are simply being sent here BY not WITH their parents.some are paying 10.000 dollars to the cartel to get them here.They are being sent with the birth control pills in case they are raped by their cartel people.I do have compassion,like you,and like you,NOT AT THE EXPENCE OF OUR CITIZENS !IVE PAID AND PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY,AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE PAY A CITIZENS,AND THE DEMS JUST KEEP TAKING OUR MONEY AWAY.I wonder how many people actually sit down and think about HOW MUCH THE WALL WILL SAVE US IN THE LONG RUN OF NOT HAVING TO PAY these people welfare,SS,healthcare(oh,and while im loosing my mind,TheseCHildren are getting taking care of better than our own!!!)dental and everything thing else they need while they steal and kill our people.BUILD THE WALL,PUT AMERICANS FIRST | |
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Location: Arkansas | jake16 - 2018-06-24 7:35 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-06-24 8:12 PM
Thank you for posting this. Enlightening but also very scary. . . . Compassion, yes, but not to the detriment of our great nation, and most of all OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN.
compassion yes,BUT ONLY AFTER THEY FIND COMPASSION FOR THEMSELVES,more than half of these children that they are accusing trump of seperatly,are simply being sent here BY not WITH their parents.some are paying 10.000 dollars to the cartel to get them here.They are being sent with the birth control pills in case they are raped by their cartel people.I do have compassion,like you,and like you,NOT AT THE EXPENCE OF OUR CITIZENS !IVE PAID AND PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY,AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE PAY A CITIZENS,AND THE DEMS JUST KEEP TAKING OUR MONEY AWAY.I wonder how many people actually sit down and think about HOW MUCH THE WALL WILL SAVE US IN THE LONG RUN OF NOT HAVING TO PAY these people welfare,SS,healthcare (oh,and while im loosing my mind,TheseCHildren are getting taking care of better than our own!!! )dental and everything thing else they need while they steal and kill our people.BUILD THE WALL,PUT AMERICANS FIRST
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Location: OH. IO | Chandler's Mom - 2018-06-24 8:46 PM
jake16 - 2018-06-24 7:35 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-06-24 8:12 PM
Thank you for posting this. Enlightening but also very scary. . . . Compassion, yes, but not to the detriment of our great nation, and most of all OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN.
compassion yes,BUT ONLY AFTER THEY FIND COMPASSION FOR THEMSELVES,more than half of these children that they are accusing trump of seperatly,are simply being sent here BY not WITH their parents.some are paying 10.000 dollars to the cartel to get them here.They are being sent with the birth control pills in case they are raped by their cartel people.I do have compassion,like you,and like you,NOT AT THE EXPENCE OF OUR CITIZENS !IVE PAID AND PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY,AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE PAY A CITIZENS,AND THE DEMS JUST KEEP TAKING OUR MONEY AWAY.I wonder how many people actually sit down and think about HOW MUCH THE WALL WILL SAVE US IN THE LONG RUN OF NOT HAVING TO PAY these people welfare,SS,healthcare (oh,and while im loosing my mind,TheseCHildren are getting taking care of better than our own!!! )dental and everything thing else they need while they steal and kill our people.BUILD THE WALL,PUT AMERICANS FIRST
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I was just coming back to make sure you knew I wasn't yelling at you,lol.im about ready to get the Republicans to start protesting (aka rioting lmao)with big penis's on our heads,im so sick of seeing all the big pink vagina hats I could puke.I think we shall start at pelosis house,oh wait,she has a dam wall built around it. | |
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Location: OH. IO | It really is a good thing I don't Facebook,lol.Im angry at how Obama tore our country apart,he put racism at the worst it's ever been.All the rioting when a murderer gets gunned down,all our cops being targeted,now everyone is mad that may have to work if they get welfare.Sometimes just one little thing causes protests(rioting)that's shuts our roadways down,people scared for their lives,I DO BLAME OBAMA,HES DIRTY,CORRUPT.WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STREET SMART,PEOPLE WHO BUST THEIR BUTTS EVERYDAY,WE HAVE TO FIGHT AGAINST HOLLYWOOD GOONS,THEY REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT TAXES OR WORKING FOR A LIVING REALLY IS. We really need people to vote,primaries,mid terms,all of it,our president deserves our help,and only the small people can do it.I try on a daily basis to get people just to register,now we have DAVID HOGG getting all the. Mellenials registered to vote on stuff they know NOTHING ABOUT,ONLY WHAT THEY HEAR FROM THE MOUTHS OF LUNITICS.WE HAVE TO DO BETTER,we just have to. | |
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Location: Arkansas | jake16 - 2018-06-24 8:00 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-06-24 8:46 PM
jake16 - 2018-06-24 7:35 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-06-24 8:12 PM
Thank you for posting this. Enlightening but also very scary. . . . Compassion, yes, but not to the detriment of our great nation, and most of all OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN.
compassion yes,BUT ONLY AFTER THEY FIND COMPASSION FOR THEMSELVES,more than half of these children that they are accusing trump of seperatly,are simply being sent here BY not WITH their parents.some are paying 10.000 dollars to the cartel to get them here.They are being sent with the birth control pills in case they are raped by their cartel people.I do have compassion,like you,and like you,NOT AT THE EXPENCE OF OUR CITIZENS !IVE PAID AND PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY,AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE PAY A CITIZENS,AND THE DEMS JUST KEEP TAKING OUR MONEY AWAY.I wonder how many people actually sit down and think about HOW MUCH THE WALL WILL SAVE US IN THE LONG RUN OF NOT HAVING TO PAY these people welfare,SS,healthcare (oh,and while im loosing my mind,TheseCHildren are getting taking care of better than our own!!! )dental and everything thing else they need while they steal and kill our people.BUILD THE WALL,PUT AMERICANS FIRST
^^^^^^ I was just coming back to make sure you knew I wasn't yelling at you,lol.im about ready to get the Republicans to start protesting (aka rioting lmao )with big penis's on our heads,im so sick of seeing all the big pink vagina hats I could puke.I think we shall start at pelosis house,oh wait,she has a dam wall built around it.
The pink hats mean what????? I know, I should be more "up" on things. . . .
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Location: Kansas | Judge Jeanine was very "on" with the subject of migration Saturday night. She explained the separation of children from parents like this. We have 2.7 million citizens in prison in the U.S. who are separated from their children because they are criminals. End of story. Same with these illegal immigrants. They're separated from their children because they're criminals who are in the process of being detained because they invaded our country illegally. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it. If you don't want to risk being separated then go through the process of entering our country legally.
Welfare, food stamps, free medical and free education for their children is certainly a draw, isn't it. Some illegals are even drawing Social Security.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Last night I caught the middle of an interview with someone on the radio. I don’t know who it was, but he made some good points and cited some facts and figures. He said that one thing people realize is that over 2000 people die every year on their 2000 mile trek from the southern to the northern border. I tried looking this up, and all I found was between 200-300 people die every year at the border...but nothing about how many die over the course of this journey. I bet that is a conservative figure. We only hear about a few tragic incidents, like when people get cooked in those tractor trailers. We don’t hear about the random shootings, killings, heat stroke, etc, along the way. Imagine you are a BP or customs agent, and you open up a trailer to find 10-20 dead bodies in a virtual oven.
He said that practically every square mile along the way is controlled by cartels and gangs like MS13.
Those people often have to pay $5-10K just for a “permit” to make the trip. Women who can’t pay are raped, sometimes 50-100 times. Men who can’t pay are either beaten half to death or killed.
He said over 60 million lethal doses of Fentanyl crosses the border every year. While much of that comes in by mail, boat, and vehicles (tractor trailers), a significant amount comes via “mules” across the open border. Then there is the matter of human trafficking.....we don’t seem to have a good handle on that in terms of data, numbers, etc... certainly it must be a shocking number.
The way we dealt with illegals in the past administration was basically “catch and release”, where they are apprehended, processed, given a date for a legally mandated hearing (usually several months in the future), and they are released. Not surprisingly, these people fail to show up about 98% of the time.
Knowing the sh!thole that awaits them south of the border, who among us would show up?
Bottom line is the incentive is powerful and needs to be removed, or we will suffer even greater consequences. Conservative estimates are that illegal immigration is costing us at least $130 Billion a year. I don’t see how building that wall is a waste of money. A one time layout of $20 Billion makes perfect sense, even if it only makes a dent in the numbers in terms of illegal entries and drug smuggling.
We have to remove the incentives......eliminate freebies, financially pressure Mexico and Central American countries, pressure China to crack down on producers of synthetic drugs, etc... 50-60 thousand Americans die every year from opiate overdoses. Even if the wall results in a 10% reduction in that number, I’d say it’s worth it.
We simply have no other choice....zip, zero, zed, nada. | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Southtxponygirl - 2018-06-23 7:05 PM
You know what, these crazy thinking people will never stop untill we have no borders and they have destroyed everything that was fought for to keep our freedom and our way of life that we know.. They will never stop!!!
My worst fear..........you are right..........we are certainly headed in that direction.......imo | |
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Location: southeast Texas | It came to me this morning, Mexico has a southern "Wall".
How are these people getting thru Mexico's southern boarder?
How culpable is Mexico by letting these people in their country, and their treck thru their country? | |
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Location: Kansas | roxieannie - 2018-06-25 11:42 AM It came to me this morning, Mexico has a southern "Wall".
How are these people getting thru Mexico's southern boarder?
How culpable is Mexico by letting these people in their country, and their treck thru their country? I heard the other day that some were welcome to stay in Mexico but knew they couldn't get the same variety of free stuff they can in the U.S. So they just keep moving north.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I’m not sure Mexico has much of a southern wall, to be honest.
Besides, that would interfere from their objective of flooding the US with prospective Democrat voters.
Mexico sure as hell won’t provide the benefits that we provide to illegals.
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| roxieannie - 2018-06-25 11:42 AM
It came to me this morning, Mexico has a southern "Wall".
How are these people getting thru Mexico's southern boarder?
How culpable is Mexico by letting these people in their country, and their treck thru their country?
Mexico gives them a 20 day pass to go thru the country if they are going to the USA. | |
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Location: Kansas | .....and if you want to get a little bit upset, google how the Muslim community has taken over the city of Dearborn, MI, and the Somalian infiltration in St. Paul where Sharia law is recognized and they have no use for our Constitution. FGM is also being practiced here in the U.S. and if you're not familar with that watch Desert Flower, a true story, and prepare to be angry.
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