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Elsa5
Reg. Aug 2014
Posted 2018-06-25 7:42 PM
Subject: Help soreness issues with my 4 year old



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My 4 year old is having a lot of soreness issues with her hind end. I just bought her this spring and she has already seen the chiropractor multiple times. She has another appointment this week but if there's no improvement my trainer thinks the next step is to get the vet involved, I'm not sure if xrays or injections would then become the case.

She was professionally saddle fitted, they had nothing that would fit her due to her small narrow build so their advice was to shim up the training one I have now and refit her once she fills out more.

She isn't ridden hard and of course knowing she's sore I'm not riding her, due to this she's had a bit of time off.

She's sound and the soreness is only apparent at a lope on a lunge line. One direction she's fine the other one she's cross firing or constantly switching leads. Under saddle is the same one direction she's good, the other she's a hot mess and will start bucking.

Guess I'm looking into other options such as massage or acupuncture? Has anyone had any luck with similar problems? Any advice as to what to try next?

I'm worried she won't be sound enough to make it as a performance horse. She's got good bloodlines but I'm debating on how much money I should stick into her. Thanks for the rant, **** horses stress me out lol
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-06-25 7:51 PM
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don't waste your time with a chiro or local vet. go to a performance vet; you will be money ahead. I never have a horse chiro'd more than twice without improvement. 
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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2018-06-25 8:28 PM
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kwanatha - 2018-06-25 8:51 PM

don't waste your time with a chiro or local vet. go to a performance vet; you will be money ahead. I never have a horse chiro'd more than twice without improvement.Β 

Β AGREE,GO STRAIGHT TO GOOD VET AND SPEND THE MONEY WISELY TO GET A GOOD GRIP ON THE ISSUES.
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little_bug
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2018-06-25 9:03 PM
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 Is she 5 panel tested? Specifically PSSM?
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Elsa5
Reg. Aug 2014
Posted 2018-06-25 9:08 PM
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little_bug - 2018-06-25 9:03 PM

Β Is she 5 panel tested? Specifically PSSM?

She is not and neither is her dam as far as i know but her sire is 5 panel negative
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Elsa5
Reg. Aug 2014
Posted 2018-06-25 9:56 PM
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As far as I could find the closest performance vet is still multiple states away. The best I could do is my normal vet or the University of MN also has a good program.

What would I expect to have done during that vet appointment? Like I said she's not necessarily lame. The chiropractor basically just says her hips are rotated back, but her hocks, stifles, and back are all sore as well. I'm trying a new chiro this time for another opinion

Edited by Elsa5 2018-06-25 9:57 PM
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-06-25 10:27 PM
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Flexion tests on all joints
X-rays on any joint testing positive

My guess hocks are fusing as the chiro adjustments you describe point to hocks or stifles
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-06-26 5:58 AM
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Elsa5 - 2018-06-25 9:56 PM As far as I could find the closest performance vet is still multiple states away. The best I could do is my normal vet or the University of MN also has a good program. What would I expect to have done during that vet appointment? Like I said she's not necessarily lame. The chiropractor basically just says her hips are rotated back, but her hocks, stifles, and back are all sore as well. I'm trying a new chiro this time for another opinion

Vet, I use a chiropractor too but I always go to the vet first to find why they are getting out/sore somewhere.   You want to find the cause and not just treat the symptom.   As others have said, you will save money in the long run and your horse will feel better.
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2018-06-26 7:43 AM
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Recently had problems with my 5 year old being sore in hind end. Slight lameness at a lope, cross firing and not standing square, constantly rocking back and forth. Came on here and some board buddies recommended chirio and acupunture. I was at whits end, had her chiro and the vet recommended acupunture afterwards. What a HUGE difference!!  There were needles all over her hind end and back. 1 week later about 75 percent improvement, another appointment in 2 weeks. 
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Kay-DRacing.
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2018-06-26 8:58 AM
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Elsa5 - 2018-06-25 9:56 PM As far as I could find the closest performance vet is still multiple states away. The best I could do is my normal vet or the University of MN also has a good program. What would I expect to have done during that vet appointment? Like I said she's not necessarily lame. The chiropractor basically just says her hips are rotated back, but her hocks, stifles, and back are all sore as well. I'm trying a new chiro this time for another opinion

Sent you a PM. 
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Elsa5
Reg. Aug 2014
Posted 2018-06-26 9:00 AM
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Found the video after I bought her of course, she's not nearly as noticeably off now as she is in this video. At first I was hoping she was just struggling with the riders size (she's only 13.3 hh) but I am thinking her hock may be the issue. I'll be scheduling an appointment today
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HXdEve1nQAE&feature=youtu.be
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2018-06-26 9:11 AM
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looks like stifle to me
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2018-06-26 9:17 AM
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Oh goodness, she can barely move! That was the sale video?!

Vet, at this point. And, speaking from experience, go to the best right off the start. Saves money. 
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Elsa5
Reg. Aug 2014
Posted 2018-06-26 9:33 AM
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horsegirl - 2018-06-26 9:17 AM

Oh goodness, she can barely move! That was the sale video?!

Vet, at this point. And, speaking from experience, go to the best right off the start. Saves money.Β 

Apparently I never saw it until after I bought her otherwise I wouldn't have gone through with it. Like I said she's not currently this obviously off but the video was taken a year ago so she's been in pain for quite some time. I'll probably end up taking her to the University
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WYOTurn-n-Burn
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2018-06-26 10:20 AM
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she looks VERY hock and stifle sore and when they are that off that soreness can & usually moves upward and into the SI, back.  I'd go to Dr. Chris Bell, at Elders Equine, in Winnipeg, depending on where you're located. He's amazing and worth the paperwork to cross the border. 
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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2018-06-26 12:01 PM
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That is a really sore horse Inc the video. Definitely hock sore and looks Stifle sore also. Could be stifles are just sore from the deep ground, but definitely hocks, more sore in the left hock.
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hotpaints
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2018-06-26 2:21 PM
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Liana D - 2018-06-26 12:01 PM That is a really sore horse Inc the video. Definitely hock sore and looks Stifle sore also. Could be stifles are just sore from the deep ground, but definitely hocks, more sore in the left hock.

Agree, left hock and/or stifle. If you notice, the rider never tracked that horse to the right because it would have made the left hind leg lameness problem more noticible.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-06-26 3:35 PM
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Oh my gosh I didnt finished watching that video it was just to painful to watch any more, that poor little mare, that man is just way to heavy for her she could hardly trot and when he asked her to back up she could not even raise her back legs from hurting so much and trying to get her to try to do a littl spin, WOW.. He should of steped off of her.. That little mare is hurting bad. I would have her pelvis checked next time you take her to the vet..
Do you keep her in a stall or turned out?
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dRowe
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-06-26 4:41 PM
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Side note - if the horse is still trying like that while in pain, I think you’re going to have a SPECTACULAR horse once you get the pain figured out.
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Elsa5
Reg. Aug 2014
Posted 2018-06-26 5:11 PM
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Yes the video is hard to watch she's such a little thing and has a lot of heart to her, i really did see a lot of potential in her. She's getting checked out on Monday by a vet and getting a massage/chiro adjustment this weekend. I am concerned though with her future as a performance horse even if we are able to get her sound :(
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