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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-07-25 3:09 AM
Subject: Does this saddle fit??



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Ok a little info first.  This mare is built downhill and does not have a defined set of withers.  Isn't mule backed by any means though. Neither my Pozzi or Shiloh Contender fit - the bar angle on both is too narrow.  This bar angle is 46 degrees with a regular 6.5" QH gullet.  Compared to my other two, I feel this one's bar angle matches her shoulder angle way better.   If you look at the picture which shows the right shoulder, the leather is curved up.  There is flare to this tree, but I don't know how much, nor do I know how much rock it has.   Anyone know the contender's bar angle? I think the pozzi is 45.  In the last picture you can see it tilts up in the back, but I don't think it's too big up front.  I think it tilts because she's so downhill.  Thoughts???





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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-07-25 7:14 PM
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Can anyone see these photos? I can see them on my desktop but not my phone
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-07-25 7:30 PM
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NO, lol.. 
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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-07-25 9:33 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-07-25 7:30 PM

NO, lol..Β 

Uugghhhhhhh what the hell??
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-07-25 9:36 PM
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Dreamingofcans - 2018-07-25 9:33 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-07-25 7:30 PM NO, lol.. 
Uugghhhhhhh what the hell??

You tickle me, ha ha ha , you can send your pictures to me again if you want too and I'll get them on here.. Do you still have my email?
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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-07-25 11:48 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-07-25 9:36 PM
Dreamingofcans - 2018-07-25 9:33 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-07-25 7:30 PM NO, lol.. 
Uugghhhhhhh what the hell??
You tickle me, ha ha ha , you can send your pictures to me again if you want too and I'll get them on here.. Do you still have my email?

 Ok I emailed you
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-07-26 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: Does this saddle fit??



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Pictures of Dreamingofcans saddle fit.  

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-07-26 8:41 AM
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Dreamingofcans - 2018-07-25 3:09 AM Ok a little info first.  This mare is built downhill and does not have a defined set of withers.  Isn't mule backed by any means though. Neither my Pozzi or Shiloh Contender fit - the bar angle on both is too narrow.  This bar angle is 46 degrees with a regular 6.5" QH gullet.  Compared to my other two, I feel this one's bar angle matches her shoulder angle way better.   If you look at the picture which shows the right shoulder, the leather is curved up.  There is flare to this tree, but I don't know how much, nor do I know how much rock it has.   Anyone know the contender's bar angle? I think the pozzi is 45.  In the last picture you can see it tilts up in the back, but I don't think it's too big up front.  I think it tilts because she's so downhill.  Thoughts???












Adding the pictures here...so she dont have to explain the pictures again, lol..  



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txbredbr
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2018-07-26 8:51 AM
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Which saddle is this? 

I think it looks good -- not a lot of room for a thick pad. How does she ride in it?  
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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-07-26 9:36 AM
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txbredbr - 2018-07-26 8:51 AM

Which saddle is this?Β 

I think itΒ looks good -- not aΒ lot of room for a thick pad.Β How doesΒ she ride in it? Β 

I haven’t ridden in it yet. I have the opportunity to try the 7” gullet, but I wanted opinions first on this one. The bar angle is the same. I’m going to try it out tonight.
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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-07-26 9:37 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-07-26 8:28 AM

Pictures of Dreamingofcans saddle fit.Β Β 

Thank you! I got all excited when I originally posted thinking I was successful... then I checked the post a few hours later and was like wait, what??
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2018-07-26 9:43 AM
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No, it does not fit.

Saddle is sitting "perched" on the back (gullet too narrow), and the bar angle is too narrow.




 
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IRunOnFaith
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2018-07-26 12:18 PM
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The second any weight is added to the saddle be prepared to be thrown.... It will pinch.... 
Bar angle is too narrow. 
 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-07-26 3:32 PM
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This saddle sits to perched for my likes, I like seeing a saddle fit to where is forms to a horses back not perched. No contact in the gullet area, and this will really sore up your horse in a hurry.

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nvrenuf
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2018-07-26 10:18 PM
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That saddle doesn't fit to my liking either.  Like everyone is saying..in my opinion it sits up on her not around her.  I have a mare that has big shoulders set back further in her back like yours.  I ride in a 71/2 finalist.  You may want to try a Flying M (Shiloh)  as well.  They have a flatter bar pattern on them.  But I wouldnt go any smaller than a 71/2 on that tree either.
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barrelracinbroke
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2018-07-26 11:28 PM
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As others have said, does not fit.....
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txbredbr
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2018-07-27 9:57 AM
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Dreamingofcans - 2018-07-26 9:36 AM
txbredbr - 2018-07-26 8:51 AM Which saddle is this? 



I think it looks good -- not a lot of room for a thick pad. How does she ride in it?  
I haven’t ridden in it yet. I have the opportunity to try the 7” gullet, but I wanted opinions first on this one. The bar angle is the same. I’m going to try it out tonight.

There is always the "you can't tell if a saddle fits by looking at pictures" but I do think that there are too many saddles that are too wide (too wide an angle) and do more harm than good (and a lot of times you can see that by looking)-- if you say there is a 7" with the same angle then it is great you have 2 options, already.

I really believe after studying for over a decade, that most horses have the same "angle" just are wider than others.

I would feel all under it, between the bars and your horses back.  I would ride in it, with different thicknesses in pads. Evaluate how your horse backs up, turns tight, and performs on the pattern at a fast speed.  It will take several rides.

I've tried so many saddles that seemed like a better fit, but after a while, learned they weren't doing my horse favors.
I also don't care for thick padding, because when you get up in the gullet with a 1" pad, for example, you are actually putting well over 1" padding in between your horse and the bars, so pads may not help a saddle fit, but they will sure help a saddle NOT fit.
Just a few thoughts :)

Let us know what you figure out!



 
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