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| What catagory of equistat earnings do you fit in? Just curous...
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Location: Illinois | I don't pay any attention to equistat, it's too inaccurate |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-08-09 3:20 PM I don't pay any attention to equistat, it's too inaccurate
so you're in the first catagory?
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-08-09 2:20 PM I don't pay any attention to equistat, it's too inaccurate
Well then, I am glad I have never even looked at it lol |
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| I agree equistat is not accurate, but that is because not all producers send in results. I wish our producers would send them in. Thanks to equistat I was able to pull my earnings from when I was younger. That at least gave me a baseline to begin tracking my own earnings. I am in Northern Utah and unless it is a large barrel race none of our results are sent in. I am not even sure many of the large races are sent in anymore either. |
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Location: Illinois | I have kept my own records on a spreadsheet for the last 7 of the 15 years I've been running. What I have on the spreadsheet is like $8,004 or close to, it's at home & I'm at work. For the 8 years before I remember at least another $1,000 so that brings me to around $9,000 that I can remember & have documented. All on 2 horses, both running 4D and 3D on a good day. I go like 10 weekends a year, I don't haul hard. Anyway, I actually looked up my equistat yesterday and wasted $5 to find out it has me at $438. Only 2 races are listed. Our NBHA district shows & state shows aren't reported at all, and NBHA is where I run 95% of the time. Other races around me don't report either. There's a lot of producers that don't, which is why I say it's not very accurate. |
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| Mis_Trev - 2018-08-09 2:42 PM I agree equistat is not accurate, but that is because not all producers send in results. I wish our producers would send them in. Thanks to equistat I was able to pull my earnings from when I was younger. That at least gave me a baseline to begin tracking my own earnings. I am in Northern Utah and unless it is a large barrel race none of our results are sent in. I am not even sure many of the large races are sent in anymore either.
It's not completely accurate but it is the best there is. |
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-08-09 2:55 PM I have kept my own records on a spreadsheet for the last 7 of the 15 years I've been running. What I have on the spreadsheet is like $8,004 or close to, it's at home & I'm at work. For the 8 years before I remember at least another $1,000 so that brings me to around $9,000 that I can remember & have documented. All on 2 horses, both running 4D and 3D on a good day. I go like 10 weekends a year, I don't haul hard. Anyway, I actually looked up my equistat yesterday and wasted $5 to find out it has me at $438. Only 2 races are listed. Our NBHA district shows & state shows aren't reported at all, and NBHA is where I run 95% of the time. Other races around me don't report either. There's a lot of producers that don't, which is why I say it's not very accurate.
It's interesting that NBHA doesn't do a better job reporting. Doesn't every NBHA membership come with a subscripion to BHN which is also owned by Cowboy Publishing, the same as equistat. You would think equistat would push more for the results and aleviate the one concern people have with their business. |
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Location: Illinois | Whiteboy - 2018-08-09 2:58 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-08-09 2:55 PM I have kept my own records on a spreadsheet for the last 7 of the 15 years I've been running. What I have on the spreadsheet is like $8,004 or close to, it's at home & I'm at work. For the 8 years before I remember at least another $1,000 so that brings me to around $9,000 that I can remember & have documented. All on 2 horses, both running 4D and 3D on a good day. I go like 10 weekends a year, I don't haul hard. Anyway, I actually looked up my equistat yesterday and wasted $5 to find out it has me at $438. Only 2 races are listed. Our NBHA district shows & state shows aren't reported at all, and NBHA is where I run 95% of the time. Other races around me don't report either. There's a lot of producers that don't, which is why I say it's not very accurate.
It's interesting that NBHA doesn't do a better job reporting. Doesn't every NBHA membership come with a subscripion to BHN which is also owned by Cowboy Publishing, the same as equistat. You would think equistat would push more for the results and aleviate the one concern people have with their business.
The one time I went to Great Lakes I got a check and it is reported, it's just the district shows and our state finals that aren't on there. Or if they did start reporting state it was after my last check earned there, which was probably 4 years ago I think. I won money at a Barrel Bash too a couple years ago and it's not on their either. I used to enter the Camarillo Classic and have won money every year entered, but only what I won the first year I went is reported. It's just so hit and miss, I wish more would take the time to report. But that's why I keep a spreadsheet and then save copies of all the results showing my money placings. Then someday if I sell one I can show that for stats instead of relying on equistat. It's a great idea in theory & would love to see it a lot more utilized by organizations
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| Well lets help make it accurate then. Please please please push your producers to submit their results to EquiStat. Also remember to enter with your horses registered name.  EquiStat can only record events with a certain percentage of registered horses entered. |
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-08-09 1:55 PM
I have kept my own records on a spreadsheet for the last 7 of the 15 years I've been running. What I have on the spreadsheet is like $8,004 or close to, it's at home & I'm at work. For the 8 years before I remember at least another $1,000 so that brings me to around $9,000 that I can remember & have documented. All on 2 horses, both running 4D and 3D on a good day. I go like 10 weekends a year, I don't haul hard. Anyway, I actually looked up my equistat yesterday and wasted $5 to find out it has me at $438. Only 2 races are listed. Our NBHA district shows & state shows aren't reported at all, and NBHA is where I run 95% of the time. Other races around me don't report either. There's a lot of producers that don't, which is why I say it's not very accurate.
Same. For the last 7 years, there are TWO producers (3 barrel races total) who have submitted their results to Equistat. That puts me at roughly $4,500.  |
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Location: Texas | yeah I would probably come up in the first category because most of the stuff I run at isn't reported to equistat. |
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Location: Desert Land | It's not that it isn't accurate, because what has been submitted is accurate. It's that their data is incomplete. Getting every producer of every barrel race to report would be impossible. BUT as a competitor you can talk to your local producers and help drive the effort if you would like to see more races reported to Equistat. You also need to urge your fellow competitors to stop using barn names when entering as well. |
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Location: Kansas | Pretty inaccurate as it doesn't include any of my rodeo winnings over the years. That is a shame because I bet it would be interesting to see those numbers...(well maybe not for me, but for others). |
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Location: Oklahoma | Equistat tries. They are at the mercy of those who send the info in. I will tell you it is a PITA!
A couple of girls and I have been tracking rodeo winnings for the last couple years. Getting people to participate is like pulling teeth. After messages, FB tags, and phone calls I have had a couple actually refuse to tell me their horse names. When that happens that whole rodeo doesn't get reported becuase I have to have complete results to send in.
And it is super simple to send in the results to Equistat. They have a spreadsheet that is fill in the blanks. So if your producers will email cowboy publishing they can get the spreadsheet.
I have not checked mine ever but I would guess I was 30-100k range depending on what IPRA rodeos were reported last year.
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| We have more in the 30-99999 range than I suspected. Keep them coming. |
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| runnin hard - 2018-08-10 12:58 AM Pretty inaccurate as it doesn't include any of my rodeo winnings over the years. That is a shame because I bet it would be interesting to see those numbers...(well maybe not for me, but for others).
I agree. I'm in the $30k-$99999k range (and I marked as such) but it's not all reported.
Although, I've had my WPRA card since the dawn of time so that is largely why! LOL
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| WrapN3MN - 2018-08-09 3:10 PM
Well lets help make it accurate then. Please please please push your producers to submit their results to EquiStat. Also remember to enter with your horses registered name. EquiStat can only record events with a certain percentage of registered horses entered.
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Location: sunny california | Bear - 2018-08-11 7:33 AM What’s the purpose of this thread?
seams they just wnat to learn who to ignore on here, doesn't matter how good the adivce is. Classic "I hire the 1D rider to train my horse even though they are only a jockey and know nothing about foundation." i think a better poll would be how much money have you spent at the vets LOL |
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