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| Not wanting to start any arguments, however I want to know WHAT is in this supplement that supposedly is good for ulcer prevention/ph gut issues? After reading the ingredients I'm really not seeing anything that buffers? I'm looking for a good pelleted supplement for ulcer prevention and was thinking of trying Cool Gut. But both my vets reccommend purina outlast |
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| I cant answer your question but I can tell you it has worked great for me. Have seen a big difference in my ulcer prone horse. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | haven't a clue but not something I am interested in. I have found that just because a vet recommends it, doesn't mean it is a great product. A lot of companies give the vets kick back for pushing their products. Not sure if Purina is that way, but very little of Purina products impress me as far as ulcers and quality of ingredients. I do like their Active Senior until I tried Bluebonnet. But 2nd to Bluebonnet I would go back to the Active Senior feed. And their Amplify is good for weight gain. |
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| I wish we had BlueBonnet in the Midwest! |
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| Wild1 - 2018-08-16 5:55 PM
Not wanting to start any arguments, however I want to know WHAT is in this supplement that supposedly is good for ulcer prevention/ph gut issues? After reading the ingredients I'm really not seeing anything that buffers? I'm looking for a good pelleted supplement for ulcer prevention and was thinking of trying Cool Gut. But both my vets reccommend purina outlast
From what I understand....the seaweed-derived calcium & magnesium oxide are the two ingredients that help buffer and raise pH
Ingredients:
Sun-cured alfalfa, wheat middlings, seaweed-derived calcium, cane molasses,
magnesium oxide, citric acid.
Outlast™ supplement contains a proprietary mineral complex
with a unique honeycomb structure. The porous structure of
this natural and bio-available source of calcium and
magnesium increases its surface area and enhances its
capacity to support proper gastric pH.
https://www.purinamills.com/horse-feed/products/detail/purina-outlas...
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Location: Georgia | i have no idea. Nothing impressed me about the ingredients and it was my last thing to try... but it has been the product I have had the most success with. I dont know what is so special about it but it is working for me. I can tell you my gelding would not even touch the cool gut pellets. He hated them. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | What I was told (so not sure how factual) by my vet that went to one of their seminars when it was being set up for new product release is that the seaweed is a very specific seaweed that comes from Norway--only found in Norway, or something like that. I don't know much more than that other than it works. I have a gelding who is not only on stall rest, but has IBS and Outlast has kept his appetite great and he's maintaining (actually gained) weight very well. I have a two year old in for training that had never been stalled and wasn't eating nearly as much hay as I wanted, and after only a few days was picking at his grain. Within one feeding of starting him on Outlast he cleaned up his grain and within a couple of days was eating his hay very well. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | I dont care whats in the ingredient list, doesn't tell me how it works but IT WORKS!!!! I have a horse who was cinchy, sets back, couldnt saddle him and dang sure dont tie him and try to saddle.. I started it in December and its the only thing I added and within 5 days he stood still but still very watchy. Not a fix but id call that progress!! 2 weeks into it you could half way tighten the cinch! A month into using it, he stood tied, saddled, and hes quiet. We have had him treated for ulcers a few times and it worked but always an issue later on. Just adding this hes been absolutely great!! For the cost and the amount you feed, i wont ever go with out it. Hes not the only horse its helped but hes had the biggest change. |
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Location: Georgia | Dash4KJ - 2018-08-17 4:27 PM
I dont care whats in the ingredient list, doesn't tell me how it works but IT WORKS!!!! I have a horse who was cinchy, sets back, couldnt saddle him and dang sure dont tie him and try to saddle.. I started it in December and its the only thing I added and within 5 days he stood still but still very watchy. Not a fix but id call that progress!! 2 weeks into it you could half way tighten the cinch! A month into using it, he stood tied, saddled, and hes quiet. We have had him treated for ulcers a few times and it worked but always an issue later on. Just adding this hes been absolutely great!! For the cost and the amount you feed, i wont ever go with out it. Hes not the only horse its helped but hes had the biggest change.
Ive had similar results too. I swear by it. My gelding was terrible, ill be able to give a real review when we haul to an overnight show next month. That will be the real test because he hates being stalled at over night shows. Compared to what other gastro "supplements" cost this is SO affordable. I put my whole barn on it.. even the yearling. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sounds like the Purina Outlast gets 5 gold stars from some of the BB's on here.  |
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| Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Wild1 - 2018-08-17 4:49 PM
Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies
I just top dress it on their grain. 4-6 oz depending on the horse. I might snack feed at an event if they stress. |
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Location: Nebraska | Isn't it automatically added to strategy now? |
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| I'm trying to decide between 1oz of Cool Gut or a full serving of Outlast once a day. I was told by a DAC dealer that one oz would probably suffice for what I need if for with my mare. She didn't have a problem eating it. One oz would be around .36 vs .16 for the Outlast with the Feed Greatness challange. |
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| brlracerchick - 2018-08-17 11:46 PM
Isn't it automatically added to strategy now?
It is! But you have to feed a “full” serving of strategy to get a full serving of Outlast, which I think is 4lbs. I’d have to throw our scoop on a scale but I’m thinking we only feed 1lb 2x’s a day - a half to 3/4 of a standard plastic scoop.
Before they added it to strategy I was top dressing with 1c on my colt and open horse, just as a precaution while hauling. I didn’t notice a huge change, but I didn’t really have any issues with them either, so when they added it to Strategy I quit top dressing, even though they aren’t likely getting a full serving. If I had a horse who’s had ulcer issues or a reason to suspect then I would supplement additional Outlast unless I was feeding “full” servings of Strategy. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | Wild1 - 2018-08-17 3:49 PM Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies
1 1/4 cup at feeding time. I dont do the snack or before a run. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | IDK what's in it, but none of my horses will eat it! |
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Location: In my own little world | Go buy yourself a bag of North Atlantic kelp and you will get the same results without paying for all the fillers. Feed 2T/day and the 50# bag will last you forever. |
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| My trainer fed it to 4 horses. Two colicked from ulcers. Both had been given Gastrogard before starting the Outlast. We immediately stopped feeding it. Trainer changed to something else and we have not had a problem |
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Location: Tahlequah, OK | Going to the Purina Conference with my feed mill as a guest, may get to check that product out!! |
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