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    Location: MN | Which would you recommend? Have you personally used & seen results? |
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| Kay-DRacing. - 2018-08-23 8:16 AM Which would you recommend? Have you personally used & seen results?
I never used the options above, but my horse has terrible allergies. Gets hives and produces extra mucous making it hard to breath when he runs ... best results I have had is giving generic Zyrtec. I buy the Costco brand (its like 365 pills for $15) and I give him 7 a day. This was actually recommended by my vet. |
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| My vet carries a product called Kinetic Vet Skin and Allergy SA. Runs 55.00 a month for two horses.. I have seen just as good of results with it as curost and there is 100mg HA in there just in case it actually does something for joints. lol |
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     Location: Way up North | I had great luck in the past with Cur-Ost and so did my friend. It is really expensive so I only used it during the riding months but I would use it again if I had a horse with allergies or breathing issues. |
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| barrelracingchick16 - 2018-08-23 3:48 PM
Have had great results with Platinum Skin and Allergy.
Love this product. My mare has done well on it. No dex shots since I have been using it |
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    Location: North Dakota | I have used all of them on my mare with COPD. CurOST was awesome but about broke me financially. I used CurOST on and off for 2 years. There are no other products out there like CurOST and you do get results.
ForeFront worked pretty well. I used it during late summer into fall for about 5 months and my mare never regressed. I would use their products again if the need came up.
Silverlining I used one bag, so I only used it about 60 days. It wasn't terrible but didn't thrill me for my mare. My mare has had COPD for years so she is more advanced than just allergies. I do think Silver lining makes quality products and wouldn't hesitate to try them again in the future if needed.
Each horse responds differntly.
What you decide you need to likely address both the inflammatory response and the immune response.
-Curost Total and Immune. -Forefront Allstar or ForeResp and Colostrum -Silverlining Resp and Immune
My favorite though is a product you didn't list. I have seen awesome results using Green Lipped Mussel on my mare with COPD and my gelding with arthrtis. I have been using it since Feb of this year and I just give 1-2 grams daily and my 25 year old gelding feels fantastic and his sweet itch is significantly better while on it compared to past summers. |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | Just a quick note for those of you that had used Cur-ost in the past and found it too expensive, they have a standard 15% discount if you buy 2 or more products, do not have to be the same item and shipping is free for ground. I had gone back and tried other products also because of the cost, was not happy AT ALL with the lack of results. Thankfully the discount was made available  |
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   Location: North Dakota | Uckelele LUNG and Hydroxazine. My horse would not eat the others.....
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| run n rate - 2018-08-27 2:45 PM
Just a quick note for those of you that had used Cur-ost in the past and found it too expensive, they have a standard 15% discount if you buy 2 or more products, do not have to be the same item and shipping is free for ground. I had gone back and tried other products also because of the cost, was not happy AT ALL with the lack of results. Thankfully the discount was made available 
True, but they simply raised the cost of the formulas and offered free shipping. Total used to be 120.00 a bag. Now its 125.00 but free shipping. Your paying the same. . And yea, buying two or more gets you the 15% discount, but some people can't drop 250.00 for 2 bags of total all at once.
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    Location: MN | Thanks for the replies! I have a lot to think about. I'm experimenting with not feeding oats right now and he seems to be getting better. Putting him on a supplement would be my last resort so your input is appreciated!! I cannot find clean oats where I live and I've tried every feed store and every co-op/elevator around me. His coughing has decreased significantly since I have cut the oats.
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | Have you thought about just putting him on a complete feed? That would really cut the dust, especially if you soaked it just a little too. Is he dry lotted? |
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    Location: MN | oija - 2018-08-28 11:28 AM Have you thought about just putting him on a complete feed? That would really cut the dust, especially if you soaked it just a little too. Is he dry lotted?
He was getting oats and RG. I replaced the oats with Purina Growth although I really like to stay away from processed feeds. I've only heard him cough 3 times since adding it when before with the oats, it was the entire time he ate. He's on a small pasture with my other gelding with basically no grass since we didnt have rain for almost 2 months straight. They have access to grass hay 24/7 and 2 large flakes of alfalfa at night. No dust. |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | Kay-DRacing. - 2018-08-28 11:37 AM
oija - 2018-08-28 11:28 AM Have you thought about just putting him on a complete feed? That would really cut the dust, especially if you soaked it just a little too. Is he dry lotted?
He was getting oats and RG. I replaced the oats with Purina Growth although I really like to stay away from processed feeds. I've only heard him cough 3 times since adding it when before with the oats, it was the entire time he ate. He's on a small pasture with my other gelding with basically no grass since we didnt have rain for almost 2 months straight. They have access to grass hay 24/7 and 2 large flakes of alfalfa at night. No dust.
How old is he?
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    Location: MN | oija - 2018-08-28 11:59 AM Kay-DRacing. - 2018-08-28 11:37 AM oija - 2018-08-28 11:28 AM Have you thought about just putting him on a complete feed? That would really cut the dust, especially if you soaked it just a little too. Is he dry lotted? He was getting oats and RG. I replaced the oats with Purina Growth although I really like to stay away from processed feeds. I've only heard him cough 3 times since adding it when before with the oats, it was the entire time he ate.
He's on a small pasture with my other gelding with basically no grass since we didnt have rain for almost 2 months straight. They have access to grass hay 24/7 and 2 large flakes of alfalfa at night. No dust.
How old is he?
Year old as of May 7th. |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | FLITASTIC - 2018-08-29 7:29 AM
run n rate - 2018-08-27 2:45 PM
Just a quick note for those of you that had used Cur-ost in the past and found it too expensive, they have a standard 15% discount if you buy 2 or more products, do not have to be the same item and shipping is free for ground. I had gone back and tried other products also because of the cost, was not happy AT ALL with the lack of results. Thankfully the discount was made available 
True, but they simply raised the cost of the formulas and offered free shipping. Total used to be 120.00 a bag. Now its 125.00 but free shipping. Your paying the same. . And yea, buying two or more gets you the 15% discount, but some people can't drop 250.00 for 2 bags of total all at once.
Again, you do not have to purchase 2 bags of the Total to get the discount...You can mix and match, they do not have to be like items any longer. Trust me, I know how expensive it is. I've also tried other products with very little success for my horses. Just like us, certain horses respond to different products. I have one that the ENC Joint plus did nothing for, the head shaker mare it made a significant change for. I was just trying to pass along some information that I thought may be helpful .
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | You can always soak the hay too. We have fed Purina's Ultium Growth and ours did look good on it. But grass of most kinds can cause reactions and grass hay can also be bad about being dusty. I am sure I am not telling you anything you don't know. I do know with older horses switching entirely over to a feed like Equine Senior and no hay works for some horses. But he is a bit young and needs more protein/minerals than Senior provides.
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    Location: MN | oija - 2018-08-28 12:32 PM You can always soak the hay too. We have fed Purina's Ultium Growth and ours did look good on it. But grass of most kinds can cause reactions and grass hay can also be bad about being dusty. I am sure I am not telling you anything you don't know. I do know with older horses switching entirely over to a feed like Equine Senior and no hay works for some horses. But he is a bit young and needs more protein/minerals than Senior provides.
Thank you. Yes - I went to feeding soaked alfalfa cubes for a while until I could find nice alfalfa hay, which thankfully, I did! My grass hay is pretty good and he doesnt cough at all when eating hay. It was only when he was eating those dusty oats. I'm thinking since he has never really had "processed" feed, he may be eating it a little fast and that's why he coughs every once in a while. But like I said, he has gotten MUCH better. Trail and error but I will figure him out eventually! |
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| Kay-DRacing. - 2018-08-28 12:54 PM oija - 2018-08-28 12:32 PM You can always soak the hay too. We have fed Purina's Ultium Growth and ours did look good on it. But grass of most kinds can cause reactions and grass hay can also be bad about being dusty. I am sure I am not telling you anything you don't know. I do know with older horses switching entirely over to a feed like Equine Senior and no hay works for some horses. But he is a bit young and needs more protein/minerals than Senior provides. Thank you. Yes - I went to feeding soaked alfalfa cubes for a while until I could find nice alfalfa hay, which thankfully, I did! My grass hay is pretty good and he doesnt cough at all when eating hay. It was only when he was eating those dusty oats. I'm thinking since he has never really had "processed" feed, he may be eating it a little fast and that's why he coughs every once in a while. But like I said, he has gotten MUCH better. Trail and error but I will figure him out eventually! Just be careful even feeding alfalfa. The chaff can cause irritation to because it is so fine. Even good quality hay is hard on some horses with allergies. It still has some dust and mold spores that you just can't see because of the way hay just has to be a made... It's obvious not sterile. If your horse isn't going into remission with soaking hay, your best bet is going back to feeding soaked cubes. Take the allergy away completely. I have a gelding that got to the point where watering good quality hay wasn't enough. Then I made a steamer. That wasn't enough after a while. He just kept having symptoms and lived on dex. He was miserable and lost a ton of weight and got to the point where he struggled to breath. He wasn't always like that in his younger years. I had to just take him off hay completely and feed soaked cubes and Chaffhaye. I wish I could turn back time because each time your horse has a coughing fit from mucus and inflammation they are getting damage. Their lungs turn fibrotic and the lung function actually gets less and less from permanent damage. The biggest thing I learned from allergies that cause coughing and mucus is to find the cause/trigger of the allergy and remove it from the horses environment. Hay is like 90% of the time the cause to allergies that cause equine asthma, IAD and COPD. So when not managed properly over the years it takes a significant toll on the horse quality of life when they are older and the accumulative damage is already done. I'll never screw around with supplements or anything when it comes to respiratory. Fix the actual cause.
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| Kay-DRacing. - 2018-08-28 12:01 PM
oija - 2018-08-28 11:59 AM Kay-DRacing. - 2018-08-28 11:37 AM oija - 2018-08-28 11:28 AM Have you thought about just putting him on a complete feed? That would really cut the dust, especially if you soaked it just a little too. Is he dry lotted? He was getting oats and RG. I replaced the oats with Purina Growth although I really like to stay away from processed feeds. I've only heard him cough 3 times since adding it when before with the oats, it was the entire time he ate.
He's on a small pasture with my other gelding with basically no grass since we didnt have rain for almost 2 months straight. They have access to grass hay 24/7 and 2 large flakes of alfalfa at night. No dust.
How old is he?
Year old as of May 7th.
if he is that young be very careful. He has severe allergies then. My gelding was diagnosed with equine asthma... Borderline copd at age 3. I messed around for 4 years with watering and steaming hay. Nothing helped and his BALs always came back with inflammatory cells. The best thing I did for him was take him completely off hay. He had severe exercise intolerance when I started him and I thought he'd barely make a trail horse. Now he's running 2d/3d his second year competing with limited hauling. If I wouldn't have intervened and got a good internal medicine vet in the picture he would have been junk. The other horse I spoke about above is my old horse. How lucky am I to have two! One with equine asthma and one that advanced to copd. Management is the key. |
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