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Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard

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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-09-03 4:26 PM
Subject: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard



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 Congrats Jenny Sharp 16.490 and Payton Ann Leach 16.463















 
 










 

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joemama
Reg. Feb 2018
Posted 2018-09-03 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard


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Thats amazing, I wasnt sure if it was a true standard or not. I seen Londons video from yesterday, that horse has a smooth and quick turn
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-09-03 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard



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After those runs they announced that it was
link to FB of the runs 

https://www.facebook.com/612843015/posts/10155714866213016/

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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2018-09-03 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard


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 What pen? No way to set a standard at the big expo center.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-09-03 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard



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CanCan - 2018-09-03 4:40 PM  What pen? No way to set a standard at the big expo center.

 Back arena, not the coliseum 
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2018-09-03 8:12 PM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard



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Yes way... the ANHA shootout for as long as I have gone there, has been on a WPRA standard pattern.


They verified the pattern before everything started.


It's true, it happened, it was badass, congratulations to some fine horses and amazing jockeys!
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-09-03 8:29 PM
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ANHA is one of the best races put on, really enjoyed them when I went a few times.  
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quickdraw
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2018-09-04 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard


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The WPRA Texas circuit director announced today that the pattern was slightly shorter than the standard WPRA pattern. The stakes were set at the measurements for a standard pattern but in the WPRA rulebook, the barrels are to be set on top of the stakes. At this race, the barrels were set just inside the stakes. Again we are talking maybe 6 ft difference overall which would be a small blip on the timer but the runs were phenomenal.
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2018-09-04 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard



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I was told they adjusted their pattern so that the barrels were the correct distance, but accounted for it where they put the stakes. But when the director was asked if that still counted she said no it did not
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-09-04 7:16 PM
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quickdraw - 2018-09-04 6:28 PM The WPRA Texas circuit director announced today that the pattern was slightly shorter than the standard WPRA pattern. The stakes were set at the measurements for a standard pattern but in the WPRA rulebook, the barrels are to be set on top of the stakes. At this race, the barrels were set just inside the stakes. Again we are talking maybe 6 ft difference overall which would be a small blip on the timer but the runs were phenomenal.

 What Casualdust said.   The pattern was adjusted to be the same distance with the stakes on the inside of the barrels but WPRA does not recognize it because per the rules barrels are to be on top of the stakes with no adjustments.   A technicality if it is recognized or not but the horses ran the same size pattern. 
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joemama
Reg. Feb 2018
Posted 2018-09-05 12:09 AM
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Alright, im gonna get flamed but Im ready for it.

I was there when B Pozzi broke the record and that horse was nasty and gritty from alleyway to alleyway and I just didnt see anything like that in the 2 videos I seen from the weekend. I told my daughter they didnt look like .4 runs and she went on to say the girls there at the ANHA were all saying the times were almost a full D (.4?) faster than they were supposed to be.

So yeah, I wont believe a record from Brazil or one on sketchy measurements.

Props to those horses and girls though, the spanked HUNDREDS of others to get those times and there is no questioning that.

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mreklaw
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2018-09-05 10:37 AM
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The ground was way faster the last day. First day they never did a big drag. Second day they did a few big drags and it was a little better. Also the 1D horses got a drag every 3 horses instead of 5. Wish they had set it up right. Those were some awful nice runs.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-09-05 4:10 PM
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joemama - 2018-09-05 12:09 AM Alright, im gonna get flamed but Im ready for it. I was there when B Pozzi broke the record and that horse was nasty and gritty from alleyway to alleyway and I just didnt see anything like that in the 2 videos I seen from the weekend. I told my daughter they didnt look like .4 runs and she went on to say the girls there at the ANHA were all saying the times were almost a full D (.4?) faster than they were supposed to be. So yeah, I wont believe a record from Brazil or one on sketchy measurements. Props to those horses and girls though, the spanked HUNDREDS of others to get those times and there is no questioning that.

Β You know horses can be deceiving. Β  The palomino ran a 16.9 first go with room for improvement. The 16.6 from London Gorham in the 2nd go didn’t look fast either but that horse was covering some ground.

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tebar
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2018-09-05 5:16 PM
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Sounds like some awesome runs . So what is the WPRA saying about the pattern at the NFR ,who has the record and on which pattern? I will say I doubted the times at Waco, I know Brit's run in Loveland was totaly wicked. I saw it in person. But it was not a 4, so if they did talk about Smoken.
 
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quickdraw
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2018-09-06 12:30 AM
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They were smoking runs. One of the horses that ran a 16.4 is winning big race after big race and running phenomenal times. I realize videos can be deceiving and look like they are going slower but that palomino is a big stout horse and can absolutely FLY.
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mreklaw
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2018-09-06 6:48 AM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard


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rodeomom3 - 2018-09-05 4:10 PM

joemama - 2018-09-05 12:09 AM Alright, im gonna get flamed but Im ready for it. I was there when B Pozzi broke the record and that horse was nasty and gritty from alleyway to alleyway and I just didnt see anything like that in the 2 videos I seen from the weekend. I told my daughter they didnt look like .4 runs and she went on to say the girls there at the ANHA were all saying the times were almost a full D (.4?) faster than they were supposed to be. So yeah, I wont believe a record from Brazil or one on sketchy measurements. Props to those horses and girls though, the spanked HUNDREDS of others to get those times and there is no questioning that.

Β You know horses can be deceiving. Β  The palomino ran a 16.9 first go with room for improvement. The 16.6 from London Gorham in the 2nd go didn’t look fast either but that horse was covering some ground.

Exactly! Remember all the doubters when Haley broke the NFR record time last year. I feel like it’s not just the speed but also how hard both of those horses leave the barrel. And both horses have been clocking recently. The ground was way faster the last day. The difference in times from the 1st day was 4 to 5 tenths for some but go back and watch some of the videos from the 1st day and you will see how much harder the ground was. They would run in and try to rate the 1st barrel and pop up out of the ground. Wasn’t pretty at all that day and there were no big ripping drags. I think too if you are sitting back there knowing London ran a .6 the 2nd day you know you are going to have to go all out.
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luckyjo
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2018-09-06 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: Amazing runs in Waco - 2 16.4’s on a standard


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Those of us that run against these girls on a regular basis know how tough they are. Congrats to both of them! I'd just like to say I ran against Patton several times the last two months this summer. She has it figured out and is bringing it all no matter what. Her palomino horse is the perfect example of a horse that will clock. This horse never raises up after circling a barrel. The constant forward motion this horse maintains and Patton's excellent horsemanship are throwing unheard of times on the clock in numerous arenas. I'm betting we'll see another arena record this weekend at Parker County Arena??
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joemama
Reg. Feb 2018
Posted 2018-09-06 10:59 AM
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When is the next race on a standard? I would really like to see what they clock.

And I personally dont see any 16.4-16.7 looking "deceiving" on a standard. In my opinion, thats a run you know is fast no matter what.
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2018-09-06 11:02 AM
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luckyjo - 2018-09-06 10:17 AM Those of us that run against these girls on a regular basis know how tough they are. Congrats to both of them! I'd just like to say I ran against Patton several times the last two months this summer. She has it figured out and is bringing it all no matter what. Her palomino horse is the perfect example of a horse that will clock. This horse never raises up after circling a barrel. The constant forward motion this horse maintains and Patton's excellent horsemanship are throwing unheard of times on the clock in numerous arenas. I'm betting we'll see another arena record this weekend at Parker County Arena??

How much?

 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-09-06 12:07 PM
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joemama - 2018-09-06 10:59 AM

When is the next race on a standard? I would really like to see what they clock.

And I personally dont see any 16.4-16.7 looking "deceiving" on a standard. In my opinion, thats a run you know is fast no matter what.

Nope, just like when you see horses and riders with lots of hustle, pretty turns and think it’s going to be faster than they actually clock.
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