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Is “American Exceptionalism” real?

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-10-09 12:15 PM
Subject: Is “American Exceptionalism” real?



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I wonder what that expression, “American Exceptionalism” means to people. Personally, I thought it was dead and buried.
I realize all markets wax and wane, just like the economy, but I’m actually thinking the idea of “America First” and “American Exceptionalism” might be for real.
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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2018-10-09 12:32 PM
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Why else do you think the world wants to come here and be a part of it. 
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Posted 2018-10-09 1:09 PM
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Its for real. That is why everyone in the third world countries wants to come here.  You get to wondering how bad some of these other countries are like to live in.
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2018-10-09 2:54 PM
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Open borders
Socialism
Abolish ICE
Raise taxes
Gov't run healthcare
Eliminate the electoral college
Disrespect our flag
Underfund our military
These are some of the things that can change our exceptionalism.  The left loves all of the above. 
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angelica
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2018-10-09 3:01 PM
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I lived in a foreign country for several years and can say that the income is very low and cost of living is extremely high!! The high school I taught at was over crowded and your average teacher made roughly $225 a month! Now that’s full time! That’s why people want to come here and we are very lucky to have good paying jobs and a great cost of living compared to most countries!!! I gave birth to my daughter while living abroad and it was stil blood on the floor from the delivery before I kid you not!! We are blessed and should not let it slip away and be destroyed by liberal idiots!!
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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2018-10-14 8:03 AM
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As Angelica stated and Others who have lived and traveled abroad, America is at the top of the heap! Seriously speaking, until One experience life and culture outside The United States, then One has idea just Exceptional America actually is!
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RockyMountainRacer
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2018-10-17 7:03 PM
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The United States certainly not the worst country to live in, but I don't think it's necessarily the best.
So yeah, I guess. To an extent.
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2018-10-17 7:13 PM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-17 7:03 PM

The United States certainly not the worst country to live in, but I don't think it's necessarily the best.
So yeah, I guess. To an extent.

Ok I will bite what country is the best?
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-10-17 7:23 PM
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jbhoot - 2018-10-17 7:13 PM
RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-17 7:03 PM The United States certainly not the worst country to live in, but I don't think it's necessarily the best. So yeah, I guess. To an extent.
Ok I will bite what country is the best?

Gosh I would like to know this too. If its not the best why in the he** do all these illeagls flood the USA? And why do we have so many different cultures  of humans living/moving here?  
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2018-10-18 8:59 AM
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Does anyone here follow the Facebook page Humans of New York? The stories that he shares from other countries make me believe that without a doubt it's real.

As much as everyone likes to bicker about our government and call it corrupt, the atrocities going on in other parts of the world make me so grateful to live here. I'm not naive, I do realize there are corrupt politicians in our government, but it's not nearly as systematically widespread as what I've read about other countries. Myanmar is currently committing genocide against an entire religion. We have the privilege of never having to worry about being prosecuted for any religion we choose. We have hungry people here, but there is currently widespread famine, the world's worst in 100+ years, affecting 14 million people in Yemen.
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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2018-10-18 1:41 PM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-17 7:03 PM

The United States certainly not the worst country to live in, but I don't think it's necessarily the best.
So yeah, I guess. To an extent.

Please share your experience(s) of why you believe the way you do.
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RockyMountainRacer
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2018-10-18 9:01 PM
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foundation horse - 2018-10-18 12:41 PM

RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-17 7:03 PM

The United States certainly not the worst country to live in, but I don't think it's necessarily the best.
So yeah, I guess. To an extent.

Please share your experience(s) of why you believe the way you do.

Well, here's the way I see it. Americans have a lot of pride in their nation- which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but people tend to overlook the flaws and there is quite a bit of anti-progress and anti-science sentiment everywhere. I guess in the end, I'd consider a more educated country to be a better place to live. But that's just me.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-10-18 9:22 PM
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Name one. Define “progress”. Are you referring to the “progressive movement”?
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RockyMountainRacer
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2018-10-18 9:39 PM
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Bear - 2018-10-18 8:22 PM

Name one. Define “progress”. Are you referring to the “progressive movement”?

Canada, for one, has a better education system. And as far as progress goes, well... just look at the thread about vaccines on here. You have a number of people refusing to acknowledge scientific fact. Now, I know there are bad eggs everywhere, but we really need to start believing in things that can be proven.
You don't have to agree with me. But I'm entitled to my opinion, and as things are right now I don't think that will change anytime soon.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-10-18 11:54 PM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-18 9:39 PM

Bear - 2018-10-18 8:22 PM

Name one. Define “progress”. Are you referring to the “progressive movement”?

Canada, for one, has a better education system. And as far as progress goes, well... just look at the thread about vaccines on here. You have a number of people refusing to acknowledge scientific fact. Now, I know there are bad eggs everywhere, but we really need to start believing in things that can be proven.
You don't have to agree with me. But I'm entitled to my opinion, and as things are right now I don't think that will change anytime soon.

Well obviously I agree with you on vaccines, but the antivax movement is not uniquely American. In fact it actually started in England. I’m not convinced that the Canadian education system is so superior. We have our shortcomings, to be sure, but one aspect of American exceptionalism is that we hash out our shortcomings in full view of the rest of the world. Another thing I’d like to point out is how we provide educational opportunities for people around the world. Nearly 400 Nobel Prize laureates originate from the US. About 20-25 came from Canada. Even when you consider the populations of the two countries, the US, there’s no comparison.
When it comes to freedom, we are still that shining city on the hill.
When a country needs protection from tyranny and aggression, the world depends on us. Canada is a beneficiary of out military might and protection. We are still leading the world in most categories, including tech advances, advances in medicine and research, and our generosity and humanitarian aid is unmatched. American pride is finally on the rise once again.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-10-19 9:53 AM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-18 9:01 PM
foundation horse - 2018-10-18 12:41 PM
RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-17 7:03 PM The United States certainly not the worst country to live in, but I don't think it's necessarily the best. So yeah, I guess. To an extent.
Please share your experience(s) of why you believe the way you do.
Well, here's the way I see it. Americans have a lot of pride in their nation- which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but people tend to overlook the flaws and there is quite a bit of anti-progress and anti-science sentiment everywhere. I guess in the end, I'd consider a more educated country to be a better place to live. But that's just me.

What country do you and your family live in that is better then America?  
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krape
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2018-10-19 11:20 AM
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Canada is socialized medicine.  I experienced that two weeks ago in Italy (a country I love) but socialized medicine is the Pitts 
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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2018-10-20 5:50 AM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-18 9:39 PM

Bear - 2018-10-18 8:22 PM

Name one. Define “progress”. Are you referring to the “progressive movement”?

Canada, for one, has a better education system. And as far as progress goes, well... just look at the thread about vaccines on here. You have a number of people refusing to acknowledge scientific fact. Now, I know there are bad eggs everywhere, but we really need to start believing in things that can be proven.
You don't have to agree with me. But I'm entitled to my opinion, and as things are right now I don't think that will change anytime soon.

And you just illustrated a uniquely American Trait! Freedom of Speech. Combined with freedom of action. There are many many countries world wide where these traits do not exist!
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-10-20 9:53 AM
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krape - 2018-10-19 11:20 AM

Canada is socialized medicine.  I experienced that two weeks ago in Italy (a country I love) but socialized medicine is the Pitts 

Yes it is. I’ve seen it up close and personal myself.
The big selling point is the false notion of “FREE” healthcare.
I can’t believe the stupidity of anyone who actually buys into that crap. Healthcare is not free.....anywhere. The taxpayers in those countries with “free” healthcare pay for it. In Canada, for example, they might pay a little less, but as the old adage goes, you get what you pay for. The reason Canadians say they are satisfied with their healthcare is that they don’t know any different. The concept of a person paying for their own healthcare is foreign to them.
Now, to be honest, our healthcare is way too expensive, but that can be fixed, and we can still preserve what’s great about our system.
I don’t want to do very many things the way they do things in Canada and Europe. The reason why we still live in the greatest country on earth is because we DON’T follow their lead.
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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2018-10-22 8:09 AM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2018-10-18 9:39 PM

Bear - 2018-10-18 8:22 PM

Name one. Define “progress”. Are you referring to the “progressive movement”?

Canada, for one, has a better education system. And as far as progress goes, well... just look at the thread about vaccines on here. You have a number of people refusing to acknowledge scientific fact. Now, I know there are bad eggs everywhere, but we really need to start believing in things that can be proven.
You don't have to agree with me. But I'm entitled to my opinion, and as things are right now I don't think that will change anytime soon.

Have You ever had the opportunity (to experience) Canada or its Socialized Healthcare System?

Or have You ever traveled to any place outside The Continental North America? Until You have that first hand experience, of dealing with Cultures outside The USA, I would have to discard your perspective. Sorry, but that is an opinion based without fact to support said opinion.
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