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| I have a nice 3yo prospect that has fantastic bloodlines. She quirky as the day is long but surprisingly under saddle is quiet and almost lazy. I feel that she has potential as a horse I could have a chance at some big things on, but between her quirks and always trying to hurt herself I find myself often feeling frustrated with her. I’m tired of starting over and would like to see her through to a finished horse, but I do plan to sell her eventually. Should I finish her and sell her for more as a 5 or 6yo, Or find her a good home now that doesn’t mind her quirks? What’s better for me as someone who aspires to have some success on one they trained all the way. |
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       Location: North Dakota | love2run - 2018-10-18 9:55 AM I have a nice 3yo prospect that has fantastic bloodlines. She quirky as the day is long but surprisingly under saddle is quiet and almost lazy. I feel that she has potential as a horse I could have a chance at some big things on, but between her quirks and always trying to hurt herself I find myself often feeling frustrated with her. I’m tired of starting over and would like to see her through to a finished horse, but I do plan to sell her eventually. Should I finish her and sell her for more as a 5 or 6yo, Or find her a good home now that doesn’t mind her quirks? What’s better for me as someone who aspires to have some success on one they trained all the way.
Well, what quirks does she have? You didn't say. |
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             Location: WYOMING | Some quirky horses can sure make you, at times, question your abilities! LOL!!
They are exhausting but in the end a lot are worth it... some are just quirky jerks though!
If you are in it for the fun then go for it... if you really want to sell later than the less quirky the better. Its kinda harder to sell one that is super quirky (I have one!). Most people appreciate easy peasy if given the choice. Some might say if its a winner quirky will sell but thats not always true either (mine is 1D big shows and my buyer base is limited to whom can REALLY handle her -- not those who just think they can).
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| Silly things, like yesterday I rode her 2 times so she should have been pretty tired. Then I put her in a stall to eat her vitamins but didn’t turn the light on. When I came back in to grab her and turn her out she flew backwards like I was attacking her. Then proceeds to walk politely with me to the pasture. One instance of that I wouldn’t think much of but that’s just kind of how she is. Still spooks at the saddle every day even though she’s been saddled a lot. If you disappear around the corner of the trailer then walk back around she will sometimes jump out of her skin. She’s not a bad horse she’s just odd. And I don’t have enough experience with 3yo barrel prospects to say wether it’s normal or not.
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| I don’t know the answer to this, but I feel your pain! I have one with tons of potential, but with his quirks and natural ability for getting hurt he is behind. I seriously can work two other colts in the same amount of time it takes to get him worked because he is always *&%%^ around. I tell myself he’s one of those special ones and it’ll be worth it in the end, but sometimes I wonder if I’m just telling myself that as I look over at the horse trailer and he’s standing on the fenders peeking over the top at me.  |
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     Location: Alabama | I have one who used to be a bit quirky. She would ear down and snort at a stranger. Most men couldn't halter her. Like fly to the back of the stall and snort if they came at her. She wouldn't come to me if I had a hat on. She would spook at new color/pattern barrels. Just weird stuff. Hard to catch some days. She was like riding a ping pong ball if there were other horses in the arena. All these things plus more until about 6-7 years old. In the last year she has really come into herself though. Now she is my steady Eddie. Trustworthy, meets me at the gate, my two year old brushes her, he plays with his toys around her, etc etc. She doesn't require much warm up, doesn't need exhibitions, same trip every time. She has become the unicorn I needed.  |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | love2run - 2018-10-18 10:13 AM Silly things, like yesterday I rode her 2 times so she should have been pretty tired. Then I put her in a stall to eat her vitamins but didn’t turn the light on. When I came back in to grab her and turn her out she flew backwards like I was attacking her. Then proceeds to walk politely with me to the pasture. One instance of that I wouldn’t think much of but that’s just kind of how she is. Still spooks at the saddle every day even though she’s been saddled a lot. If you disappear around the corner of the trailer then walk back around she will sometimes jump out of her skin. She’s not a bad horse she’s just odd. And I don’t have enough experience with 3yo barrel prospects to say wether it’s normal or not. Hummm, what type of feed is she being fed, and is she stalled all the time, and what type of vitamins are you feeding her, and if you are riding her to get her tired 2 times aday she kinda sounds like shes getting more of the feed or vitamins then she needs or she may do alot better if not stalled and in a larger area so she can move around in. Or have her eyes checked. Edited to say I reread your thread and I see that she does go out in the pasture, does she stay turned out all the time? She sounds like she got alot of energy.. Is the pasture good grazing with really good grass?
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| veintiocho - 2018-10-18 10:17 AM
I don’t know the answer to this, but I feel your pain! I have one with tons of potential, but with his quirks and natural ability for getting hurt he is behind. I seriously can work two other colts in the same amount of time it takes to get him worked because he is always *&%%^ around. I tell myself he’s one of those special ones and it’ll be worth it in the end, but sometimes I wonder if I’m just telling myself that as I look over at the horse trailer and he’s standing on the fenders peeking over the top at me. 
????that last bit about standing on the fender though ?? thanks for the laugh |
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| love2run - 2018-10-18 10:32 AM
veintiocho - 2018-10-18 10:17 AM
I don’t know the answer to this, but I feel your pain! I have one with tons of potential, but with his quirks and natural ability for getting hurt he is behind. I seriously can work two other colts in the same amount of time it takes to get him worked because he is always *&%%^ around. I tell myself he’s one of those special ones and it’ll be worth it in the end, but sometimes I wonder if I’m just telling myself that as I look over at the horse trailer and he’s standing on the fenders peeking over the top at me. 
????that last bit about standing on the fender though ?? thanks for the laugh
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-18 10:28 AM
love2run - 2018-10-18 10:13 AM Silly things, like yesterday I rode her 2 times so she should have been pretty tired. Then I put her in a stall to eat her vitamins but didn’t turn the light on. When I came back in to grab her and turn her out she flew backwards like I was attacking her. Then proceeds to walk politely with me to the pasture. One instance of that I wouldn’t think much of but that’s just kind of how she is. Still spooks at the saddle every day even though she’s been saddled a lot. If you disappear around the corner of the trailer then walk back around she will sometimes jump out of her skin. She’s not a bad horse she’s just odd. And I don’t have enough experience with 3yo barrel prospects to say wether it’s normal or not. Hummm, what type of feed is she being fed, and is she stalled all the time, and what type of vitamins are you feeding her, and if you are riding her to get her tired 2 times aday she kinda sounds like shes getting more of the feed or vitamins then she needs or she may do alot better if not stalled and in a larger area so she can move around in. Or have her eyes checked. Edited to say I reread your thread and I see that she does go out in the pasture, does she stay turned out all the time? She sounds like she got alot of energy.. Is the pasture good grazing with really good grass?
Her diet is almost strictly forage based with a coastal local hay that only rates like 95 (so requires some supplementation not as quality as an orchard or alfalfa) I keep her outside unless it’s storming and food in front of her all the time. A minimal amount of a blended “grain” that’s basically alfalfa/beat pulp/ flax and horse guard vitamins. I can’t even imagine the disaster she would be if kept inside and fed a hot diet  |
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| love2run - 2018-10-18 10:37 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-18 10:28 AM
love2run - 2018-10-18 10:13 AM Silly things, like yesterday I rode her 2 times so she should have been pretty tired. Then I put her in a stall to eat her vitamins but didn’t turn the light on. When I came back in to grab her and turn her out she flew backwards like I was attacking her. Then proceeds to walk politely with me to the pasture. One instance of that I wouldn’t think much of but that’s just kind of how she is. Still spooks at the saddle every day even though she’s been saddled a lot. If you disappear around the corner of the trailer then walk back around she will sometimes jump out of her skin. She’s not a bad horse she’s just odd. And I don’t have enough experience with 3yo barrel prospects to say wether it’s normal or not. Hummm, what type of feed is she being fed, and is she stalled all the time, and what type of vitamins are you feeding her, and if you are riding her to get her tired 2 times aday she kinda sounds like shes getting more of the feed or vitamins then she needs or she may do alot better if not stalled and in a larger area so she can move around in. Or have her eyes checked. Edited to say I reread your thread and I see that she does go out in the pasture, does she stay turned out all the time? She sounds like she got alot of energy.. Is the pasture good grazing with really good grass?
Her diet is almost strictly forage based with a coastal local hay that only rates like 95 (so requires some supplementation not as quality as an orchard or alfalfa ) I keep her outside unless it’s storming and food in front of her all the time. A minimal amount of a blended “grain” that’s basically alfalfa/beat pulp/ flax and horse guard vitamins. I can’t even imagine the disaster she would be if kept inside and fed a hot diet 
Need to add I don’t always ride her twice, but I was testing out a new saddle. She’s often went weeks between rides no problem & she’s been vetted thoroughly and often  |
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          Location: South Georgia | love2run - 2018-10-18 11:13 AM Silly things, like yesterday I rode her 2 times so she should have been pretty tired. Then I put her in a stall to eat her vitamins but didn’t turn the light on. When I came back in to grab her and turn her out she flew backwards like I was attacking her. Then proceeds to walk politely with me to the pasture. One instance of that I wouldn’t think much of but that’s just kind of how she is. Still spooks at the saddle every day even though she’s been saddled a lot. If you disappear around the corner of the trailer then walk back around she will sometimes jump out of her skin. She’s not a bad horse she’s just odd. And I don’t have enough experience with 3yo barrel prospects to say wether it’s normal or not.
Do you have my horse? lol Scared of anyone being anywhere he doesnt expect. Looks at the hanging cinch and breastcollar sideways as if it will eat him. Literally watches his shadow if there is one when I ride. Jumps over any changes in ground color/etc.
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| I have two I am training right now. A spooky/fragile minded gelding, and a super positive and focused stud. I LOVE working with my stud, he is so trainable and fun! My gelding is a challenge. I like him, but it seems like we take one step forwards and two steps back. He is going to take YEARS to finish, but we just keep plugging away. My stud is a year younger and I started him a year later than the gelding and he feels light years ahead already. So it just depends on how long you have or are willing to take. If you want something that will be finished faster I'd look for something less quirky. |
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   Location: North Dakota | love2run - 2018-10-18 10:13 AM
Silly things, like yesterday I rode her 2 times so she should have been pretty tired. Then I put her in a stall to eat her vitamins but didn’t turn the light on. When I came back in to grab her and turn her out she flew backwards like I was attacking her. Then proceeds to walk politely with me to the pasture. One instance of that I wouldn’t think much of but that’s just kind of how she is. Still spooks at the saddle every day even though she’s been saddled a lot. If you disappear around the corner of the trailer then walk back around she will sometimes jump out of her skin. She’s not a bad horse she’s just odd. And I don’t have enough experience with 3yo barrel prospects to say wether it’s normal or not.
Ha! we should talk about my 10 year old then.....those are not quirks, those are inexperienced 3 yr old reactions IMO. However, my 10 year old always acts like the boogie man is going to get him, we found out this spring that there is a bit of vision loss in one of his eyes (which I'm going to say is the reason for his snortiness) is that a word? Quirks are cinchy, not being able to be tied flying out of the back of the trailer (those are what my 15 yr old is limited to)
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| LMS - 2018-10-18 10:54 AM
love2run - 2018-10-18 10:13 AM
Silly things, like yesterday I rode her 2 times so she should have been pretty tired. Then I put her in a stall to eat her vitamins but didn’t turn the light on. When I came back in to grab her and turn her out she flew backwards like I was attacking her. Then proceeds to walk politely with me to the pasture. One instance of that I wouldn’t think much of but that’s just kind of how she is. Still spooks at the saddle every day even though she’s been saddled a lot. If you disappear around the corner of the trailer then walk back around she will sometimes jump out of her skin. She’s not a bad horse she’s just odd. And I don’t have enough experience with 3yo barrel prospects to say wether it’s normal or not.
Ha! we should talk about my 10 year old then.....those are not quirks, those are inexperienced 3 yr old reactions IMO. However, my 10 year old always acts like the boogie man is going to get him, we found out this spring that there is a bit of vision loss in one of his eyes (which I'm going to say is the reason for his snortiness ) is that a word? Quirks are cinchy, not being able to be tied flying out of the back of the trailer (those are what my 15 yr old is limited to )
I sure have a "nice" pen of horses 
Ok someday when I’ve finally had enough her ad is going to say she’s “a little snorty” LOL |
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   Location: North Dakota | love2run - 2018-10-18 11:01 AM
LMS - 2018-10-18 10:54 AM
love2run - 2018-10-18 10:13 AM
Silly things, like yesterday I rode her 2 times so she should have been pretty tired. Then I put her in a stall to eat her vitamins but didn’t turn the light on. When I came back in to grab her and turn her out she flew backwards like I was attacking her. Then proceeds to walk politely with me to the pasture. One instance of that I wouldn’t think much of but that’s just kind of how she is. Still spooks at the saddle every day even though she’s been saddled a lot. If you disappear around the corner of the trailer then walk back around she will sometimes jump out of her skin. She’s not a bad horse she’s just odd. And I don’t have enough experience with 3yo barrel prospects to say wether it’s normal or not.
Ha! we should talk about my 10 year old then.....those are not quirks, those are inexperienced 3 yr old reactions IMO. However, my 10 year old always acts like the boogie man is going to get him, we found out this spring that there is a bit of vision loss in one of his eyes (which I'm going to say is the reason for his snortiness ) is that a word? Quirks are cinchy, not being able to be tied flying out of the back of the trailer (those are what my 15 yr old is limited to )
I sure have a "nice" pen of horses 
Ok someday when I’ve finally had enough her ad is going to say she’s “a little snorty” LOL
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| A friend mentioned to me I should add this horse has been worked with and handled extensively. She’s had tons of one on one time with her humans so it’s hard to chalk it up to her being green even though she’s 3 |
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| love2run - 2018-10-18 11:20 AM
A friend mentioned to me I should add this horse has been worked with and handled extensively. She’s had tons of one on one time with her humans so it’s hard to chalk it up to her being green even though she’s 3
Maybe just more sensitive than what you are used to.. how is she bred? The running bred horses tend to be more sensitive to EVERYTHING.
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| The quirkier, the better for me. My 17 yr old is still snorty. And Ive owned her since she was a long yearling! I know her so well that I just deal with her idiosyncrasies and go about my business. She will randomly set back. I've learned to not hard tie her. She spooks at the stupidest things, but might not spook every time. Its hit or miss with her. She doesn't like being in a stall. As long as she has a way out, she is fine. She sucks to ride "out" on the trails but put her in the arena and she will work all day long. She wont swim. Don't force it. She panics and its not worth anyone getting hurt.
My 10 yr old is just as, if not even more quirky than her. Don't swing a rope anywhere near her. She will hurt someone trying to get away. Confined spaces such as pushing cows into a bend in an alley will make her spin and go the other way. Gates are still hit or miss if I can open/close on her. She wont get up in my personal space but there was ALOT of groundwork that was done when I first got her 3 years ago. When I warm her up, she refuses to stand still and I don't make her. She has to rub her face on her leg after Ive loped a few circles. If something tramatic happens to her, she remembers and its a struggle to get her over it. Case in point, I was working poles on her one night. She hit the end pole and it ended up on her neck. She PANICKED. To this day if a pole falls, she loses her mind. Carry poles on the ground and she stays as far away from them as she can get.
I think the answer to your question is whatever your willing to put up with. I think the quirkier the better but Ive had people tell me theres no way they would own my mares. I laugh cuz they keep it interesting. |
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