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Location: Missouri | Who has been to one? Please tell me what you loved, and perhaps didn't like to so much. There is going to be one in my area in February and I'm toying with the idea of signing up.
I have a 17yo mare who is as solid as can be, but I am having some major confidence issues getting back into the swing of things after having two children. I just don't trust myself...my timing, body, etc any more. If that makes sense? I've spent a ton of time in the saddle, but speed intimidates me anymore. Didn't used to. I figured a weekend clinic would be a good restart button for me. I started going to races again this year, but could never get the guts to go above turtle speed.  |
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| I liked it and would go again if I decide to barrel race again. She can work with all different types of horses and if your horse doesn’t fit her training pattern SHE will adjust to your horse. I didn’t feel like they pushed any of their products on you, although they had bits and saddles there. I felt like I got the attention I needed and ample time to ask questions. She isn’t a butt kisser, but really nice to everyone. |
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Location: Missouri | Thank you! I've gone to a clinic before that we basically did one drill. I really liked said drill, but my horse did NOT. I was frustrated through much of it. I did go home and tweak the drill to fit my horse and it went much better. So to know that she will fit the drill to the horse a little bit is good to know! |
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| MOGirl07 - 2018-11-30 2:46 PM
Thank you! I've gone to a clinic before that we basically did one drill. I really liked said drill, but my horse did NOT. I was frustrated through much of it. I did go home and tweak the drill to fit my horse and it went much better. So to know that she will fit the drill to the horse a little bit is good to know!
She had several drills for us to do off pattern, too. Her daughters helped with that part and I really liked working with them. |
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| In my opinion, pick a clinician that has trained multiple high level horses that don't all have the same style. How many horses going down the road has LM trained? Same goes for Sharon Camarillo... One horse, one NFR appearance and she didn't even train the horse but has sure excelled at Marketing. |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | In my opinion, a clinic should help the rider more than the horse -- if the rider improves, the horse improves -- so I have always looked for great horsemanship 'teachers'. The number of NFR qualifications or number of NFR horses trained does not guarantee the person is a good teacher -- not everyone is good at getting the information to you in a way you can understand and apply it. In my opinion, Lynn McKenzie is a great teacher. Martha Josey is a great teacher. As is Vicki Reinhardt. I attended quite a few barrel clinics in my day -- and also attended many horsemanship clinics --- as my horsemanship improved, my horses improved. Tremendously. |
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| Delta Cowgirl - 2018-11-30 5:17 PM
In my opinion, a clinic should help the rider more than the horse -- if the rider improves, the horse improves -- so I have always looked for great horsemanship 'teachers'. The number of NFR qualifications or number of NFR horses trained does not guarantee the person is a good teacher -- not everyone is good at getting the information to you in a way you can understand and apply it. In my opinion, Lynn McKenzie is a great teacher. Martha Josey is a great teacher. As is Vicki Reinhardt. I attended quite a few barrel clinics in my day -- and also attended many horsemanship clinics --- as my horsemanship improved, my horses improved. Tremendously.
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Location: Missouri | GLP - 2018-11-30 5:32 PM
Delta Cowgirl - 2018-11-30 5:17 PM
In my opinion, a clinic should help the rider more than the horse -- if the rider improves, the horse improves -- so I have always looked for great horsemanship 'teachers'. The number of NFR qualifications or number of NFR horses trained does not guarantee the person is a good teacher -- not everyone is good at getting the information to you in a way you can understand and apply it. In my opinion, Lynn McKenzie is a great teacher. Martha Josey is a great teacher. As is Vicki Reinhardt. I attended quite a few barrel clinics in my day -- and also attended many horsemanship clinics --- as my horsemanship improved, my horses improved. Tremendously.
I agree with this!!
This is my thinking. If I improve, if I regain some of the confidence lost in the few years of not going bc I was having babies, they we will improve bc I improved. I'm not one bit worried about the horse. Shes just waiting on me to get my crap together, God bless her. |
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Location: Missouri | FLITASTIC - 2018-11-30 3:41 PM
In my opinion, pick a clinician that has trained multiple high level horses that don't all have the same style. How many horses going down the road has LM trained? Same goes for Sharon Camarillo... One horse, one NFR appearance and she didn't even train the horse but has sure excelled at Marketing.
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| Went to one many years ago (about 25) and wasn't impressed. I found it to be a cookie cutter clinic where everyone did the same thing and every horse was worked the same. I brought a young one who was basically just loping through and my friend brought her finished horse. By the end, my horse didn't improve much and my friends horse was close to being fried. She worked a tear drop turn and the clinic basically consisted of going through the barrels over and over and over and over... you get it.
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Location: USA | Went to one about 10 or so years ago and wasn’t impressed. I was in an old ammerman that fit my horse like a glove and she kept pushing her saddle on me. She also pushed her bits on us. She does that teardrop turn and made everyone adapt to it and not the other way around. I, nor the lady that went with me, took anything away from the clinic. |
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Location: Missouri | Ughhhhhh. Yeah. My horse will not stand for being worked over and over and over and.....without a mental break. She's just not the type you can do that to. Now, drills off the pattern and moving on after a bit to another drill, sure. But that was the issue at the CJ clinic I went to years ago. It was essentially the same drill over and over. My horse hated it. She loves the drill now, bc I use it in moderation. |
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| Instead of paying the money for a clinic...find a professional in your area within driving distance and pay for lessons one on one it will be wayyyyyyyyyyy more helpful for most people.
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Location: Missouri | Someone said she pushes her saddles
On you- yes she will
Have saddles there and trees- if she can see your saddle does not fit she will offer for you to try one to see the difference and yes you can buy one but she does not pressure any one to buy one or buy or change bits. I have hosted clinics for several years and we have had some that she never got a saddle out until it was over and someone ask if she had them with her! So times have changed.
You do get a lot of saddle time - during riding times
If your horses is getting frustrated or tired she will have you stop and quit but when you and horse are ready she will come back to you. She does like when you bring someone with you so they can video or stand next to her while you are working to hear things to help you after the clinic.
Mr murray is awesome with the video and discussing what he sees- he is very analytical and gives you pointers or question to discuss with Ms Lynn to work on. |
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Location: Missouri | another has been - 2018-12-03 11:29 AM
Someone said she pushes her saddles
On you- yes she will
Have saddles there and trees- if she can see your saddle does not fit she will offer for you to try one to see the difference and yes you can buy one but she does not pressure any one to buy one or buy or change bits. I have hosted clinics for several years and we have had some that she never got a saddle out until it was over and someone ask if she had them with her! So times have changed.
You do get a lot of saddle time - during riding times
If your horses is getting frustrated or tired she will have you stop and quit but when you and horse are ready she will come back to you. She does like when you bring someone with you so they can video or stand next to her while you are working to hear things to help you after the clinic.
Mr murray is awesome with the video and discussing what he sees- he is very analytical and gives you pointers or question to discuss with Ms Lynn to work on.
Are you in charge of the one that's being held at RAS in Feb? If so, I've been meaning to PM you via FB every time I see the flyer shared. |
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Location: North Dakota | MOGirl07 - 2018-11-30 2:19 PM Who has been to one? Please tell me what you loved, and perhaps didn't like to so much. There is going to be one in my area in February and I'm toying with the idea of signing up. I have a 17yo mare who is as solid as can be, but I am having some major confidence issues getting back into the swing of things after having two children. I just don't trust myself...my timing, body, etc any more. If that makes sense? I've spent a ton of time in the saddle, but speed intimidates me anymore. Didn't used to. I figured a weekend clinic would be a good restart button for me. I started going to races again this year, but could never get the guts to go above turtle speed.
It was around 12 years ago that I went to one. Honestly, I probably would NOT go to one again if I had the chance. Now, I certainly did learn some things that were useful to me and that helped me. (You can always learn SOMETHING.) We did a lot of the same drills and she had a lot of "steps" on your body position. She was really keen on rotating your hips/legs to prepare for the turn.
But she did also talk alot about horse health, sadddle fit, teeth, etc which are important too.
A few things I didn't like:
She didn't ride any of the horses herself. Personally, I really like clinicians that do that so that is my main factor on why I probably wouldn't go to another clinic. Then they can FEEL what the horse is doing for themselves and (I think) help you more.
She forced my lefty horse to go RIGHT the entire clinic.
She wanted to put my horse in a bigger bit (I never once in my life had trouble stopping or slowing him down, so I didn't understand why).
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| another has been - 2018-12-03 11:29 AM
Someone said she pushes her saddles
On you- yes she will
Have saddles there and trees- if she can see your saddle does not fit she will offer for you to try one to see the difference and yes you can buy one but she does not pressure any one to buy one or buy or change bits. I have hosted clinics for several years and we have had some that she never got a saddle out until it was over and someone ask if she had them with her! So times have changed.
You do get a lot of saddle time - during riding times
If your horses is getting frustrated or tired she will have you stop and quit but when you and horse are ready she will come back to you. She does like when you bring someone with you so they can video or stand next to her while you are working to hear things to help you after the clinic.
Mr murray is awesome with the video and discussing what he sees- he is very analytical and gives you pointers or question to discuss with Ms Lynn to work on.
At the clinic I went to she didn’t. The only person who tried one of her saddles specifically asked her. She didn’t push bits either, although she had a few saddles there and some bits, too. |
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Location: on the back forty chasing my stupid mare | I love her clinics! I always learn something new.  |
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