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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Kassie Mowry and her slew of Epics! Also saw a couple of Eddie Stinsons I liked. |
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| Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 11:54 AM
What/who has impressed you this year so far?
The Epics have def showed up but keep in mind they have an unfair advantage having a hand like Kassie on them.
I was amazed at the ground being so bad for the slot....makes me sick to think some people just lit 5k on fire basically. But that's horse racing and the ground is getting better.
I love that the juvenile has so many entries and first timers its great!!
I think the ground the first two days were a little slow and it gave us some slower times but it seems to be getting better.
The Slicks have shown their consistency IMO like they are gonna go in and work.
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Location: Arizona | I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. |
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| Slick By Design had some nice runners in the SuperStakes. I stay away from most OTMR horses, but those results are making me question my stance.
And once again, I am impressed by Epic Leader's offspring. Kassie Mowry really knows how to train and ride them. |
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| LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM
I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
So many that need tie downs...giraffes that could def use some help
Tie downs do not mean that rushed through their training. Look at Hailey and Sister, Sheri and Stingray, and many many others....tie downs are no indication of hurrying or poor training.
Many horses come apart at this point in the year just due to simple stress, remember this is a baby's first show if your watching the juv, and the riders nerves play a huge part when your on the biggest stage of the futurity world for all to see.
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Location: Arizona | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-12-06 12:00 PM
LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM
I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
So many that need tie downs...giraffes that could def use some help
Tie downs do not mean that rushed through their training. Look at Hailey and Sister, Sheri and Stingray, and many many others....tie downs are no indication of hurrying or poor training.
Many horses come apart at this point in the year just due to simple stress, remember this is a baby's first show if your watching the juv, and the riders nerves play a huge part when your on the biggest stage of the futurity world for all to see.
I am by no means against a tie-down. I had an older mare that had to have one. At 3yrs old how is one needed in such an early stage of training? Just asking....if I felt like my young one needed one I would go back to my basic training and get the correct headset before moving on. I know over time horses develop styles and habits and might then become in need of one, but at such a young age to already need one? I guess it was just something that stood out to me watching the BofA... |
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Location: Oklahoma | LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 1:07 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-12-06 12:00 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. So many that need tie downs...giraffes that could def use some help Tie downs do not mean that rushed through their training. Look at Hailey and Sister, Sheri and Stingray, and many many others....tie downs are no indication of hurrying or poor training. Many horses come apart at this point in the year just due to simple stress, remember this is a baby's first show if your watching the juv, and the riders nerves play a huge part when your on the biggest stage of the futurity world for all to see. I am by no means against a tie-down. I had an older mare that had to have one. At 3yrs old how is one needed in such an early stage of training? Just asking....if I felt like my young one needed one I would go back to my basic training and get the correct headset before moving on. I know over time horses develop styles and habits and might then become in need of one, but at such a young age to already need one? I guess it was just something that stood out to me watching the BofA...
At 3yo most of these are already a year into running the pattern. With the amount of money up for grabs, you don't have to time to "go back to basics". Plus a lot of the time, you can train and retrain and it never get fixed.
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| LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 1:07 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2018-12-06 12:00 PM
LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM
I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
So many that need tie downs...giraffes that could def use some help
Tie downs do not mean that rushed through their training. Look at Hailey and Sister, Sheri and Stingray, and many many others....tie downs are no indication of hurrying or poor training.
Many horses come apart at this point in the year just due to simple stress, remember this is a baby's first show if your watching the juv, and the riders nerves play a huge part when your on the biggest stage of the futurity world for all to see.
I am by no means against a tie-down. I had an older mare that had to have one. At 3yrs old how is one needed in such an early stage of training? Just asking....if I felt like my young one needed one I would go back to my basic training and get the correct headset before moving on. I know over time horses develop styles and habits and might then become in need of one, but at such a young age to already need one? I guess it was just something that stood out to me watching the BofA...
Tie Downs are helpers. Help to get them collected for a snappy smooth turn. Young horses at speed sometimes need them more than an older horse. You'll actually see them run as a baby with a tie down then move them out to free them up sometimes and get them stretching. It has nothing to do with teaching the right way or carriage. Bottom line when they are at a dead out run some of them require a little help stick that inside leg and come around....no shame in a tie down or using it at any stage of training or competition. |
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| Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 1:12 PM Did you just see Kay Blandford? She's gonna win this round also!
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| LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM
I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right? |
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | Im impressed that one rider had a few he rode into the top 15. Its got to be tough to jump from one to the next and still be competitive while others may have had months on just one horse. |
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| Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 2:22 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
crap i used to ride long yearling at the racetracks in ok mo i rode long yearling at the big track and i do blelieve most trainers worth their salt caree about and back of if need to
as far as tie down go some put their nose to balance better
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Location: WYOMING | I need a Good Bye Lane X Epic leader cross. I have a smoking 1D horse I would trade! LOL! but seriously...
I see the usual futurity fodder. A few standouts, a few shoulda scratched before... but most kinda hovering in the middle of the pack. HEY kinda sounds like a 4D race! LOL
Saw a few that I think will sure go on and make nice open horses even if this wasnt their standout weekend.
My favorite watching is the juvi though, love those baby babies and their reactions. It will sure humble ya quick LOL! |
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| Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 1:22 PM
LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM
I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
I really thought the sterotype of blown up futurity horses was dead. Futurity horses can be blown up though, just like a rodeo or play day horse can....the odds are just alot higher for babies. Horses can be crippled at any time in their career. I'd bet more often due to poor ground or the owner not being diligent with care as an older horse though.
Futurity horses can and do have very successful careers just ask the owners of Slick by Design, Yeah Hes Firen, BF Shannigans, Lady La Dash, and many many others.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 2:22 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
you squezzed a lot of fail into that paragraph.
Congrats. You won the 1d all by yourself.
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 1:12 PM
Did you just see Kay Blandford? She's gonna win this round also!
Didn’t see today’s run but her 1st run she was way past the first and still clocked. The 2nd barrel was amazing! |
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| 1DSoon - 2018-12-06 1:57 PM
Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 2:22 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
Congrats. You won the 1d all by yourself.
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| mreklaw - 2018-12-06 5:03 PM Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 1:12 PM Did you just see Kay Blandford? She's gonna win this round also! Didn’t see today’s run but her 1st run she was way past the first and still clocked. The 2nd barrel was amazing!
rember the key grip that sucker could go to the fence at the first and blow your drawers up
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