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News is reporting that Trump says they can work out their own problems and that ISIS is dead.
I'm fine with them working out their own issues...not sure ISIS is dead, but we sure haven't heard much aout them lately. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nateracer - 2018-12-21 9:15 AM Yes I beleive that is correct.
News is reporting that Trump says they can work out their own problems and that ISIS is dead.
I'm fine with them working out their own issues...not sure ISIS is dead, but we sure haven't heard much aout them lately.
After 17 years we need to be done and have all our service men and women on home soil.. |
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We cant change the barbaric muslim people of the middle east, at least we havent yet and we have trillions of our tax dollars invested into it already.
Just dont import the ****hole people into our country under some guise.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I'm not sure ISIS can't resurrect themselves at any time. After all there are angry people born every minute there. But I think he's right about us needing to be out of there. The industries that produce military equipment, the deep state and the CIA are who wants us to be at war over there all the time. If they want it, I don't want it. The only reason I think it might work this time, is Trump is cutting the purse strings to the deep state and the CIA. Without money, they can't equip or train those people. They'd be pretty toothless without lots of money and help from the CIA. JMO |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Nateracer - 2018-12-20 10:15 AM
Yes I beleive that is correct.
News is reporting that Trump says they can work out their own problems and that ISIS is dead.
I'm fine with them working out their own issues...not sure ISIS is dead, but we sure haven't heard much aout them lately.
I listened to a retired General yesterday which explained the good reasoning for the move out.......He explained that we can still fight ISIS without having 2000 troops on the ground........
His name is General Paul Vallely
Troops policy is why are we still policing the world.......apparently General Mattis does.......think we need to....
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| CJE - 2018-12-21 9:50 AM Nateracer - 2018-12-20 10:15 AM Yes I beleive that is correct.
News is reporting that Trump says they can work out their own problems and that ISIS is dead.
I'm fine with them working out their own issues...not sure ISIS is dead, but we sure haven't heard much aout them lately. I listened to a retired General yesterday which explained the good reasoning for the move out.......He explained that we can still fight ISIS without having 2000 troops on the ground........ His name is General Paul Vallely Troops policy is why are we still policing the world.......apparently General Mattis does.......think we need to....
I hate the fact that we are everyone's "father figure" and Piggy Bank. Let them deal with themselves unless they are a direct threat to us!
If we aren't anymore...Buh-Bye!
I realize that sometimes lending means we get lending back, btw. But it seems like we shell out way more than we ever get back. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Nateracer - 2018-12-20 10:55 AM CJE - 2018-12-21 9:50 AM Nateracer - 2018-12-20 10:15 AM Yes I beleive that is correct.
News is reporting that Trump says they can work out their own problems and that ISIS is dead.
I'm fine with them working out their own issues...not sure ISIS is dead, but we sure haven't heard much aout them lately. I listened to a retired General yesterday which explained the good reasoning for the move out.......He explained that we can still fight ISIS without having 2000 troops on the ground........ His name is General Paul Vallely Troops policy is why are we still policing the world.......apparently General Mattis does.......think we need to....
If we aren't anymore...Buh-Bye!
I realize that sometimes lending means we get lending back, btw. But it seems like we shell out way more than we ever get back.
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| My son is deployed in Afghanistan. He actually serves in a combat position because he is Special Operations Forces and those guys depend on air support and all the air support personel there. Trump's move to announce to our enemies his decision to remove troops is beyond irresponsible. It is dangerous. I am conservative and although have never been crazy about Trump but the thought of Hilary running our foreign affairs was terrifying. But so is this. We have the Taliban at the table with peace talks largely because of the pounding we have been giving the Taliban in recent months. And ISIS is certainly not dead. Trump was very critical of Obama for announcing to the world we were pulling out of Iraq (hence the rise of ISIS) Trump is doing exacty the same thing. And my son is now in a much more dangerous position because Trump's big mouth telling the Afghans and the world we are leaving. Should we be running missions outside the wire? No and hell no but should we bow to ISIS, Iran and Russia and give them jurisdiciton? No and hell no.
The people that Trump is bringing home (and they are still in the Military) will largely be those in support capacities but the operators who run the missions will stay deployed in combat position - with less support than ever. So don't be patting yourself on the back Trump. He hasn't even made a visit to Afghanistan. Obama went 4 times. Trump - 0 -
My views do not make me liberal - they make me an American. And there are thousands of other Conservatives like myself shaking their head wondering how Trump could of done this. Many have commented how Trump doesn't read his briefs, but "goes with his gut". I would prefer he uses the intel he is given by those on the ground. That's how a leader is successful. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Gail - 2018-12-20 11:23 AM
My son is deployed in Afghanistan. He actually serves in a combat position because he is Special Operations Forces and those guys depend on air support and all the air support personel there. Trump's move to announce to our enemies his decision to remove troops is beyond irresponsible. It is dangerous. I am conservative and although have never been crazy about Trump but the thought of Hilary running our foreign affairs was terrifying. But so is this. We have the Taliban at the table with peace talks largely because of the pounding we have been giving the Taliban in recent months. And ISIS is certainly not dead. Trump was very critical of Obama for announcing to the world we were pulling out of Iraq (hence the rise of ISIS) Trump is doing exacty the same thing. And my son is now in a much more dangerous position because Trump's big mouth telling the Afghans and the world we are leaving. Should we be running missions outside the wire? No and hell no but should we bow to ISIS, Iran and Russia and give them jurisdiciton? No and hell no.
The people that Trump is bringing home (and they are still in the Military) will largely be those in support capacities but the operators who run the missions will stay deployed in combat position - with less support than ever. So don't be patting yourself on the back Trump. He hasn't even made a visit to Afghanistan. Obama went 4 times. Trump - 0 -
My views do not make me liberal - they make me an American. And there are thousands of other Conservatives like myself shaking their head wondering how Trump could of done this. Many have commented how Trump doesn't read his briefs, but "goes with his gut". I would prefer he uses the intel he is given by those on the ground. That's how a leader is successful.
My daughter and son in law are both military and disagree with the decision ...........I am on the fence......what have we got for 17 years.........is my question........and yes I hear all the talking points of why we are there.......but 17 years......
And thank your son as well as you for his service for our country......
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Location: South Dakota | Gail - 2018-12-21 10:23 AM My son is deployed in Afghanistan. He actually serves in a combat position because he is Special Operations Forces and those guys depend on air support and all the air support personel there. Trump's move to announce to our enemies his decision to remove troops is beyond irresponsible. It is dangerous. I am conservative and although have never been crazy about Trump but the thought of Hilary running our foreign affairs was terrifying. But so is this. We have the Taliban at the table with peace talks largely because of the pounding we have been giving the Taliban in recent months. And ISIS is certainly not dead. Trump was very critical of Obama for announcing to the world we were pulling out of Iraq (hence the rise of ISIS) Trump is doing exacty the same thing. And my son is now in a much more dangerous position because Trump's big mouth telling the Afghans and the world we are leaving. Should we be running missions outside the wire? No and hell no but should we bow to ISIS, Iran and Russia and give them jurisdiciton? No and hell no.
The people that Trump is bringing home (and they are still in the Military) will largely be those in support capacities but the operators who run the missions will stay deployed in combat position - with less support than ever. So don't be patting yourself on the back Trump. He hasn't even made a visit to Afghanistan. Obama went 4 times. Trump - 0 -
My views do not make me liberal - they make me an American. And there are thousands of other Conservatives like myself shaking their head wondering how Trump could of done this. Many have commented how Trump doesn't read his briefs, but "goes with his gut". I would prefer he uses the intel he is given by those on the ground. That's how a leader is successful.
I admire Trump for many things....but there is also getting to be a longer list of things, that concern me, about him. |
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| Thanks CJE. I agree we need to find an end game in Afghanistan but I believe we were heading towards this. But annoucing to the world and our allies our departure is dangerous. BTW my son's next deployment is scheduled but now it will be far more dangerous.
We still have bases all over the world - are we going to close them also? What about the bases almost 80 countries around the world? Close them too?
Thank you for the kind words about my son. I sure miss him and am grievely the loss of his teammate Dylan. But there job's as operators are now more dangerous than ever since the Afghan's who can be Security Force by day and Taliban by night will consider us weak and untrustworthy. If Trump's shuts down the war in Afghanistan shut down the missions also but don't leave my son and his teammates alone like Obama did. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | So why would he tell the world that hes pulling out troops then and leaving many there still, thats what I dont understand, it should have been hush hush, after 17 years I would think all the troops would be coming home..This is just crazy.. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-21 11:52 AM So why would he tell the world that hes pulling out troops then and leaving many there still, thats what I dont understand, it should have been hush hush, after 17 years I would think all the troops would be coming home..This is just crazy..
And the ones he leaves are the ones that actually go out on combat missions.
If you are leaving then leave - take them all but that is not the case. Smarter to keep the base open and quit running dangerous missions outside the wire. But not ...Trump is leaving the Special Operators to run missions and they will be in more danger than ever. No wonder Mattis quit. When Trump announced by Twitter he was pulling out of Syria I told my family that Mattis will quit and sure enough he did. We should not be nation building ( has not worked will not ever work) but please don't leave our operators like my son sitting out there like ducks on a pond. That is what Obama did. Can you tell I am livid about this? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Gail - 2018-12-21 12:01 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-21 11:52 AM So why would he tell the world that hes pulling out troops then and leaving many there still, thats what I dont understand, it should have been hush hush, after 17 years I would think all the troops would be coming home..This is just crazy.. And the ones he leaves are the ones that actually go out on combat missions.
If you are leaving then leave - take them all but that is not the case. Smarter to keep the base open and quit running dangerous missions outside the wire. But not ...Trump is leaving the Special Operators to run missions and they will be in more danger than ever. No wonder Mattis quit. When Trump announced by Twitter he was pulling out of Syria I told my family that Mattis will quit and sure enough he did. We should not be nation building ( has not worked will not ever work ) but please don't leave our operators like my son sitting out there like ducks on a pond. That is what Obama did. Can you tell I am livid about this?
Oh I really understand where you are coming from. I was thinking he was going to bring all our troops home and stop all the missions while waiting to get our men and women home, this is were I'm stumped..I just dont get it.. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Gail - 2018-12-21 10:23 AM My son is deployed in Afghanistan. He actually serves in a combat position because he is Special Operations Forces and those guys depend on air support and all the air support personel there. Trump's move to announce to our enemies his decision to remove troops is beyond irresponsible. It is dangerous. I am conservative and although have never been crazy about Trump but the thought of Hilary running our foreign affairs was terrifying. But so is this. We have the Taliban at the table with peace talks largely because of the pounding we have been giving the Taliban in recent months. And ISIS is certainly not dead. Trump was very critical of Obama for announcing to the world we were pulling out of Iraq (hence the rise of ISIS) Trump is doing exacty the same thing. And my son is now in a much more dangerous position because Trump's big mouth telling the Afghans and the world we are leaving. Should we be running missions outside the wire? No and hell no but should we bow to ISIS, Iran and Russia and give them jurisdiciton? No and hell no.
The people that Trump is bringing home (and they are still in the Military) will largely be those in support capacities but the operators who run the missions will stay deployed in combat position - with less support than ever. So don't be patting yourself on the back Trump. He hasn't even made a visit to Afghanistan. Obama went 4 times. Trump - 0 -
My views do not make me liberal - they make me an American. And there are thousands of other Conservatives like myself shaking their head wondering how Trump could of done this. Many have commented how Trump doesn't read his briefs, but "goes with his gut". I would prefer he uses the intel he is given by those on the ground. That's how a leader is successful.
^^^^^^ AGREE .....100% There will be EXTRA prayers for those who are left behind!!!! |
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| Gail - 2018-12-21 10:23 AM
My son is deployed in Afghanistan. He actually serves in a combat position because he is Special Operations Forces and those guys depend on air support and all the air support personel there. Trump's move to announce to our enemies his decision to remove troops is beyond irresponsible. It is dangerous. I am conservative and although have never been crazy about Trump but the thought of Hilary running our foreign affairs was terrifying. But so is this. We have the Taliban at the table with peace talks largely because of the pounding we have been giving the Taliban in recent months. And ISIS is certainly not dead. Trump was very critical of Obama for announcing to the world we were pulling out of Iraq (hence the rise of ISIS) Trump is doing exacty the same thing. And my son is now in a much more dangerous position because Trump's big mouth telling the Afghans and the world we are leaving. Should we be running missions outside the wire? No and hell no but should we bow to ISIS, Iran and Russia and give them jurisdiciton? No and hell no.
The people that Trump is bringing home (and they are still in the Military) will largely be those in support capacities but the operators who run the missions will stay deployed in combat position - with less support than ever. So don't be patting yourself on the back Trump. He hasn't even made a visit to Afghanistan. Obama went 4 times. Trump - 0 -
My views do not make me liberal - they make me an American. And there are thousands of other Conservatives like myself shaking their head wondering how Trump could of done this. Many have commented how Trump doesn't read his briefs, but "goes with his gut". I would prefer he uses the intel he is given by those on the ground. That's how a leader is successful.
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| I just got word my son returned from his mission safely. This momma always sheds a tear or two when he gets off missions safely.
Not all soliders come home - griveing heavily on the loss of his teammate SSgt.Dylan Elchin.
Thank you everyone - Republican and Democratics who pray for the saftey of our troops. |
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Location: Arkansas | Gail - 2018-12-21 1:10 PM
I just got word my son returned from his mission safely. This momma always sheds a tear or two when he gets off missions safely.
Not all soliders come home - griveing heavily on the loss of his teammate SSgt.Dylan Elchin.
Thank you everyone - Republican and Democratics who pray for the saftey of our troops.
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | Why in the H does our military have to announce anything before it happens???????? |
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