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Location: SW MO | For those of you who pinch pennies, how do you go about buying designer horses? I am considering buying a long yearling or 2 year old this year. I am also breeding a Heza Fast Man x Beduino daughter in 2019. Do you buy older horses that have issues or buy babies and hope their value holds bloodline wise? Tips? Tricks?
If you do buy a well bred baby, where do you find them? Breeder? Off the track? Sale? Thank you for all of your input. |
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| What would your budget be? You aren't going to be able to get an own son or daughter of a designer sire or dam for less than a lot (lol!).
I thought I got a bargain on my DTF daughter last year but still shelled out more on the one horse than all my other horses put together (that I've bought - I've bred dozens to top stallions that are/were worth quite a bit).
I've always found my best buys online shopping and being ready to make a quick decision and ready to wire money immediatly. You can usually shave some to quite a bit off a purchase by being fast. I was lucky with my DTF that my trainer had seen her perform within 45 days of when I purchased her and I opted out of vet check. I think that was worth $5000 off, plus the cost of the vet check. Another $5000 that I was the situation the previous owner was looking for, and a few more K's for being able to pay in 2 hours or so.
If you are looking at youngsters you will have more to choose from for less because you won't be paying for their training or experience. Being open to a colt that will barely load and lead and needing some time spent ironing out ground manners and training will give you even more, and less expensive, options.
If you go older and are open to maintenance issues then you might find a good deal. Ask around at your shows to see who might be softly selling or actively selling. |
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Location: OH | We sell a lot of babies, usually 10-15 a year and I do not know that it is necessarily cheaper for the customer but they have the opportunity to pick pretty much exactly what they want instead of settling for what they get when breeding. Advantage to buying young is you handle them early and do not have to try and fix somebody elses mistakes---disadvantage is the time you have to wait. |
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| I follow breeders pages and wait until they get full and the mares are about to foal again and there are some weanlings/yearlings left over from the previous crop. Usually they'll offer some deals because they need the room.
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Location: OH | Also, color sells. If you do not care about color or flash you can sometimes get a deal on a straight sorrel or bay. I LOVE EM---but I swear, people will walk past the nicest little bay in the pasture and be drawn to the color. Here is a little bay filly that I considered one of my best---she never sold and now I have decided to just keep her and guide her career myself. She represents 20 years of our breeding program---4th generation. This is her last fall as a yearling.
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Location: SW MO | scwebster - 2018-12-28 11:06 AM
I follow breeders pages and wait until they get full and the mares are about to foal again and there are some weanlings/yearlings left over from the previous crop.  Usually they'll offer some deals because they need the room.
This is more along the lines of what I meant. Of course own sons or daughters are going to be more expensive. But there are deals out there, I was just curious how some go about it. I usually buy 3 and up but I want to buy younger in 2019. I’m tired of fixing older horses lol |
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| Truthfully, I have always had super well bred horses just sort of fall into my lap, and the same goes for my husband. It's been sort of a "right place at the right time" kind of thing.
I agree with watching breeder's websites/pages and keeping your eyes and ears open to what they have going on. I have gotten a few of my best horses from breeders that were selling out due to medical issues and were given amazing deals on those horses. My husband has had the fortune to come across some very well bred prospects and started horses in his line of work, and it just so happened the owners were looking to sell (softly.. sort of a "to the right person" thing).
We haven't had to "actively look" for any of our horses, but somehow we always seem to find exactly what we are looking for and in our price range. |
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I like to think my horses are nicely breed. I just keep a savings account so when I get offred or stumble across thoes "deals of a lifetime" I can jump on it like my he's a peptospoonful / freckles playboy she had lost an eye as a yearling dosent bother me or her a darn bit. |
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| Anyone care to share recommendations to breeders pages to watch? Who is reputable etc. Thank you |
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Location: SW MO | KSC - 2018-12-28 12:25 PM
Anyone care to share recommendations to breeders pages to watch? Who is reputable etc. Thank you
Agreed. Would also like to know! |
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| KSC - 2018-12-28 12:25 PM
Anyone care to share recommendations to breeders pages to watch? Who is reputable etc. Thank you
Mighty Broke is a very well respected breeder. Has very nice horses who are bred well.
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| KSC - 2018-12-28 12:25 PM Anyone care to share recommendations to breeders pages to watch? Who is reputable etc. Thank you
Some on Facebook:
Robyn Herring Owner of FWOTR
Bryel Mulligan Owner of Lions Share of Fame
Joleen Hales - Streakin Ta Fame, Perks Alive, Rare Bar
The facebook page of Fiestas Gotta Gun
Trena Greer - Greer Quarter Horses
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Location: SW MO | Thank you! Great ideas |
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| Thanks all. Which is Mighty broke's page?
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Location: OH | KSC - 2018-12-28 2:19 PM Thanks all. Which is Mighty broke's page?
Several
Hoppel Farms
PC Frosty Jay Jay
PC Lonewood Special
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | I highly recommend Pitts Quarter Horses. They are super nice rodeo family and oh man do I love their horses. |
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| I'd rather pay more money and get what I want rather than less for something I don't want. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | scwebster - 2018-12-28 1:49 PM
KSC - 2018-12-28 12:25 PM Anyone care to share recommendations to breeders pages to watch? Who is reputable etc. Thank you  Some on Facebook: Robyn Herring Owner of FWOTR
Bryel Mulligan Owner of Lions Share of Fame
Joleen Hales - Streakin Ta Fame, Perks Alive, Rare Bar
The facebook page of Fiestas Gotta Gun
Trena Greer - Greer Quarter HorsesÂ
Jolene owns Streaking Ta Fame.
I only point this out because there is also a Streakin Ta Fame. |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | 3canstorun - 2018-12-28 7:11 PM
scwebster - 2018-12-28 1:49 PM
KSC - 2018-12-28 12:25 PM Anyone care to share recommendations to breeders pages to watch? Who is reputable etc. Thank you  Some on Facebook: Robyn Herring Owner of FWOTR
Bryel Mulligan Owner of Lions Share of Fame
Joleen Hales - Streakin Ta Fame, Perks Alive, Rare Bar
The facebook page of Fiestas Gotta Gun
Trena Greer - Greer Quarter HorsesÂ
Jolene owns Streaking Ta Fame.
I only point this out because there is also a Streakin Ta Fame.
CrossBones Barrel horses
Western 37 of course
and if im allowed to toot my own horn, Royal J Performance Horses.
I breed to almost all outside studs and focus on Race track, barrels and roping. (primarily barrel prospects)
All of our foals sold this year except 1. So we had a nice season. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | We try to buy really nice broodmares and breed one or 2 to outside stallions. I only keep one at most to ride each year and we have been getting a lot of fillies (I prefer geldings) so most we raise we sell. I have 2 coming next year by The Kandyman out of an Ivory James daughter and by Guys Piece Ofthe Pie out of a Special Leader daughter. We stand a young son of Firewater Finale and used him on our other mares-First Wrangler, Coronas Leaving You, VF Burrs Eye. |
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