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Location: Bastrop, Texas | “Why do wealthy politicians build walls, fences and gates around their homes? They don't build walls because they hate the people on the outside, but because they love the people on the inside."
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| I love the idea of a wall, but building a wall without fixing the immigration system is incomplete. They must do both, at the same time. Ag needs imigrants, America needs imigrants, but we need good immigrants. The Dems say the wall is immoral, but allowing these "mexicans" to take on tremendous risk and cost just for a chance to get accross the boarder is immoral. It cost them about $9,000/ person to have the coyotes get them accross the boarder, IF they live through the process. The system is broken and the POL's must fix it. | |
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Location: N Texas | I'm genuinely curious how the Democrats are going to secure the border without a wall. If it's that easy, why haven't they done it yet? | |
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Location: CTX | Not to mention prisons..... do inmates just stay out of the goodness of their heart???? | |
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| I have a few friends that have come here legally.. they all say the same thing...its not that hard. You follow the rules, give the information requested and once approved you take classes. The ones trying to come in illegally are ruining it for others that want to do it the right way. We are spending all our resources trying to keep illegals out and far less resources approving the ones that are trying to do it right. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Whiteboy - 2019-01-09 2:06 PM
I love the idea of a wall, but building a wall without fixing the immigration system is incomplete. They must do both, at the same time. Ag needs imigrants, America needs imigrants, but we need good immigrants. The Dems say the wall is immoral, but allowing these "mexicans" to take on tremendous risk and cost just for a chance to get accross the boarder is immoral. It cost them about $9,000/ person to have the coyotes get them accross the boarder, IF they live through the process. The system is broken and the POL's must fix it.
Nobody is suggesting the wall, in and of itself, is the only solution.
We need several improvements. By and large, both sides agree with those improvements.
The wall/barrier is the only sticking point. The only reason the Dems are opposed is because this is a big agenda item for Trump. Everyone knows this.
Estimates on the cost of illegal immigration vary widely. Even using the most conservative estimates, when you consider the cost of various social services, it’s not hard at all to see how Mexico will pay for that wall in just a few years, even if it only reduces illegal immigration by a very modest amount. Trump knows this. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Gunner11 - 2019-01-09 2:16 PM
I'm genuinely curious how the Democrats are going to secure the border without a wall. If it's that easy, why haven't they done it yet?
Drones, my dear, drones. That way the Democrats can add up all their new constituents as they stream across the border. | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Whiteboy - 2019-01-08 3:06 PM
I love the idea of a wall, but building a wall without fixing the immigration system is incomplete. They must do both, at the same time. Ag needs imigrants, America needs imigrants, but we need good immigrants. The Dems say the wall is immoral, but allowing these "mexicans" to take on tremendous risk and cost just for a chance to get accross the boarder is immoral. It cost them about $9,000/ person to have the coyotes get them accross the boarder, IF they live through the process. The system is broken and the POL's must fix it.
Unfortunately as it is NO ONE will work together......Trump ask Pelosi if he gave her what she wanted would she give him the wall.......her answer NO...........bottom line she wants to take Trump down.......no matter what.... | |
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middle income family lives in a gated subdivision surrounded by a wall. People want to make sure they’re protected. It’s a concept that shouldn’t be that hard to understand. | |
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Location: South Dakota | kbug - 2019-01-09 3:34 PM I have a few friends that have come here legally.. they all say the same thing...its not that hard. You follow the rules, give the information requested and once approved you take classes. The ones trying to come in illegally are ruining it for others that want to do it the right way. We are spending all our resources trying to keep illegals out and far less resources approving the ones that are trying to do it right.
I am a Canadian and have my Permanent Resident card (Green Card)... I married a great American guy, and becoming legal, is not a easy process. Many forms to fill out, that are not that easy to fill out, actually hired a immigration lawyer to help us get it right. The fees alone through the whole process, were over 2000. I have often thought, the whole process, should be simpler, and more affordable. I just renewed my Green Card, for another 10 years, and it cost just under 500. | |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Bear - 2019-01-09 2:49 PM
Gunner11 - 2019-01-09 2:16 PM
I'm genuinely curious how the Democrats are going to secure the border without a wall. If it's that easy, why haven't they done it yet?
Drones, my dear, drones. That way the Democrats can add up all their new constituents as they stream across the border.
Drones don't do anything except show them crossing the border. This guy talks about drones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zL7_NT1ObY
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Miracle in the Making
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| Vicky Stewart President Donald Trump’s Tuesday night Oval Office address on border security sparked anger among many celebrities, who vented their anger and frustrations on Twitter. Singers, actors, comedians and entertainers – including Cher, Bette Midler, Mia Farrow, Seth MacFarlane, Rose McGowan, Michael Ian Black and Kathy Griffin – joined the chorus of critical tweets leveled at Trump, who used his speech to repeat multiple falsehoods about immigration. funny how all of them have security wall bobyguard or you have to pay to hear sinng double standard i reckon if your rich as opposed to middle class | |
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| I live in a high-rise condo. in the middle of downtown Houston. A few years ago the "homeless" began amassing here, camping on the sidewalks, littering, breaking into cars, etc. Many of them are illegal aliens. Because of an injunction filed by the A.C.L.U., law enforcement has been powerless to get them off the street. Late one afternoon I came in from an appointment and was in the kitchen making a cup of coffee. I heard a crash on the balcony, sounding of broken flowerpots and things being overturned. As I looked around the drapery, there stood a person preparing to try to break into our unit. When he realized I was holding a handgun he jumped from my balcony to my neighbor's balcony and missed, falling from the 10th floor to the concrete deck on the 6th floor, shattering both legs (they were later amputated) and breaking his back. Well...it was determined that the was an illegal, deported numerous times, with a prolific criminal history. And I thought we were safe on the 10th floor.
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Location: Ky | If we build a 30 ft high wall that the Mexicans pay for, will we then also outlaw 30 ft ladders?
And can we outlaw 30 ft ladders in Mexico too?
How about backhoes? Will they be outlawed?
As for the premise of this thread, those walls at homes are manageable. They are not 100's of miles long. Of course, don't let simple facts get in the way of a good yarn. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2019-01-09 7:43 PM
If we build a 30 ft high wall that the Mexicans pay for, will we then also outlaw 30 ft ladders?
And can we outlaw 30 ft ladders in Mexico too?
How about backhoes? Will they be outlawed?
As for the premise of this thread, those walls at homes are manageable. They are not 100's of miles long. Of course, don't let simple facts get in the way of a good yarn.
I love fresh meat, especially when it is flavored with your brand of liberal logic, jd&ez.
If tall ladders was the answer to walls, please explain to me why more and more countries are putting up walls and barriers. Nobody is claiming it will stop all illegals from entering, whether it’s via tunnels, ladders, or hang gliders.
People like you, jd&ez, and other critics of the border wall are more uninformed than the president they dispute if they believe Trump’s proposal is inconsistent with international norms.
Answer me this......why have so many Democrats voted for walls and barriers in the past? Hmmmm?
Every year, more countries resort to walls after more liberal policies fail. Look it up.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-border-wall-is-standard-pr... | |
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Miracle in the Making
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| jd&ez - 2019-01-09 8:43 PM If we build a 30 ft high wall that the Mexicans pay for, will we then also outlaw 30 ft ladders?
And can we outlaw 30 ft ladders in Mexico too?
How about backhoes? Will they be outlawed?
As for the premise of this thread, those walls at homes are manageable. They are not 100's of miles long. Of course, don't let simple facts get in the way of a good yarn.
doo you live in a house do you have a barn do u have windows do people come in uninvited? | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jd&ez - 2019-01-09 7:43 PM If we build a 30 ft high wall that the Mexicans pay for, will we then also outlaw 30 ft ladders?
And can we outlaw 30 ft ladders in Mexico too?
How about backhoes? Will they be outlawed?
As for the premise of this thread, those walls at homes are manageable. They are not 100's of miles long. Of course, don't let simple facts get in the way of a good yarn.
I think this is a funny post, but really are you serious?? I have never ever seen a mexican in Mexico carry around a 30 foot ladder,, this is a new one, ha ha ha ha.. I'll have to tell my inlaws about this one if I can remember the next time I see them, thanks for the funny post, I needed to laugh a little, ha ha ha .. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2019-01-09 8:40 PM
jd&ez - 2019-01-09 7:43 PM If we build a 30 ft high wall that the Mexicans pay for, will we then also outlaw 30 ft ladders?
And can we outlaw 30 ft ladders in Mexico too?
How about backhoes? Will they be outlawed?
As for the premise of this thread, those walls at homes are manageable. They are not 100's of miles long. Of course, don't let simple facts get in the way of a good yarn.
I think this is a funny post, but really are you serious?? I have never ever seen a mexican in Mexico carry around a 30 foot ladder,, this is a new one, ha ha ha ha.. I'll have to tell my inlaws about this one if I can remember the next time I see them, thanks for the funny post, I needed to laugh a little, ha ha ha ..
I can just picture it now...caravans from Central America hauling 30 foot ladders across Mexico. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2019-01-09 8:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2019-01-09 8:40 PM jd&ez - 2019-01-09 7:43 PM If we build a 30 ft high wall that the Mexicans pay for, will we then also outlaw 30 ft ladders?
And can we outlaw 30 ft ladders in Mexico too?
How about backhoes? Will they be outlawed?
As for the premise of this thread, those walls at homes are manageable. They are not 100's of miles long. Of course, don't let simple facts get in the way of a good yarn. I think this is a funny post, but really are you serious?? I have never ever seen a mexican in Mexico carry around a 30 foot ladder,, this is a new one, ha ha ha ha.. I'll have to tell my inlaws about this one if I can remember the next time I see them, thanks for the funny post, I needed to laugh a little, ha ha ha .. I can just picture it now...caravans from Central America hauling 30 foot ladders across Mexico.
This is sooo freaking funny, I have never in my life living on the border have I ever seen a mexican coming across the Rio Grande river carry a 30 foot ladder with them, this is so darn funny, ha ha ha ha ha..Are them carring a 30 foot ladder across no mans land to put up against something so they can cross over, do you know how heavy a 30 foot ladder is?? I dont think its going to fit into a backpack, lol.. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2019-01-09 8:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2019-01-09 8:40 PM jd&ez - 2019-01-09 7:43 PM If we build a 30 ft high wall that the Mexicans pay for, will we then also outlaw 30 ft ladders?
And can we outlaw 30 ft ladders in Mexico too?
How about backhoes? Will they be outlawed?
As for the premise of this thread, those walls at homes are manageable. They are not 100's of miles long. Of course, don't let simple facts get in the way of a good yarn. I think this is a funny post, but really are you serious?? I have never ever seen a mexican in Mexico carry around a 30 foot ladder,, this is a new one, ha ha ha ha.. I'll have to tell my inlaws about this one if I can remember the next time I see them, thanks for the funny post, I needed to laugh a little, ha ha ha .. I can just picture it now...caravans from Central America hauling 30 foot ladders across Mexico.
I'm sorry still laughing, I think this is the funnest post ever, I love it!!! Oh and on the backhoe what does a back hoe have to do with anything: jd&ez??  | |
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