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Location: Missouri | Anyone have a link for good factual info as to what the 3rd trimester abortion law that NY recently passed entails/allows? As usual, plenty of misinformation on fb these past few days and I want to know what it actually says. |
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https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/s2796
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Location: Broxton, Ga | MOGirl07 - 2019-01-23 1:03 PM
Anyone have a link for good factual info as to what the 3rd trimester abortion law that NY recently passed entails/allows? As usual, plenty of misinformation on fb these past few days and I want to know what it actually says.
"According to the practitioner's reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient's case: the patient is within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health."
So the measure will make late-term abortions legal at the discretion of a health-care practitioner based on the viability of the fetus or if the woman's life or health is in jeopardy.
From what I can understand.....the example I read was if the mothers life is in danger or something is wrong with the baby as in quality of life or shortness of life due to a condition noted by a doctor...this bill allows for that abortion ......this bill eliminates the 20 week protection of the fetus......
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Location: Weatherford, TX | MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 12:03 PM Anyone have a link for good factual info as to what the 3rd trimester abortion law that NY recently passed entails/allows? As usual, plenty of misinformation on fb these past few days and I want to know what it actually says.
I don't know how to link...
but if you Google "actual ny new abortion law"...
The very first article under Syracuse.com is a very comprehensive article that gives the changes and has a place within to see the actual bill. There are many more articles, but this is probably one of the best.
It is probably the most exspansive abortion law in the country. It also protects or removes any criminality if Roe v. Wade is overturned.
The Dems have been trying to get this for over a decade. The State Legislature just went all Democrat and this was a priority to them.
Elitist Idiots.
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Location: Missouri | It sounds to me like the verbiage for the health of the mother is pretty vague and could mean a lot of things (read: loopholes). A lot of libs on my fb freaking out today that conservatives are so upset about this and I would like to have a better understanding of it before responding yo anyone. I will wade thru the links/suggestions you all sent....thanks a bunch! |
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Location: Missouri | Gator Bug - 2019-01-24 12:50 PM
MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 12:03 PM Anyone have a link for good factual info as to what the 3rd trimester abortion law that NY recently passed entails/allows? As usual, plenty of misinformation on fb these past few days and I want to know what it actually says.
I don't know how to link...
but if you Google "actual ny new abortion law"... The very first article under Syracuse.com is a very comprehensive article that gives the changes and has a place within to see the actual bill. There are many more articles, but this is probably one of the best. It is probably the most exspansive abortion law in the country. It also protects or removes any criminality if Roe v. Wade is overturned. The Dems have been trying to get this for over a decade. The State Legislature just went all Democrat and this was a priority to them. Elitist Idiots. Â Â
How can a state do that....protect against criminality of the supreme court of the US were to overturn Roe v Wade?
I really need to brush up on civics/government....is that even allowed? |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 1:08 PM It sounds to me like the verbiage for the health of the mother is pretty vague and could mean a lot of things (read: loopholes). A lot of libs on my fb freaking out today that conservatives are so upset about this and I would like to have a better understanding of it before responding yo anyone. I will wade thru the links/suggestions you all sent....thanks a bunch!
This law will have consequences no doubt. I mean a woman can abort legally for whatever reason up to 24 weeks!!!
Another good Google is "Dr. Kermit Gosnell".
Nobody thinks another monster like him can't emerge under this Law?!!!
Yeh, right.
It is barbaric.
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Location: Missouri | Gator Bug - 2019-01-24 1:16 PM
MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 1:08 PM It sounds to me like the verbiage for the health of the mother is pretty vague and could mean a lot of things (read: loopholes). A lot of libs on my fb freaking out today that conservatives are so upset about this and I would like to have a better understanding of it before responding yo anyone. I will wade thru the links/suggestions you all sent....thanks a bunch!
This law will have consequences no doubt. I mean you abort legally for whatever reason up to 24 weeks!!!Â
Another good Google is "Dr. Kermit Gosnell".
Nobody thinks another monster like him can't emerge under this Law?!!!
Yeh, right.
It is barbaric.Â
He's exactly who I thought of. I had someone claim that no one would ever want an abortion at 8 months like no one Carrie's a baby that long then decides to kill it and I thought "you've obviously never heard of Gosnell's house of horrors." |
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| MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 1:19 PM Gator Bug - 2019-01-24 1:16 PM MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 1:08 PM It sounds to me like the verbiage for the health of the mother is pretty vague and could mean a lot of things (read: loopholes). A lot of libs on my fb freaking out today that conservatives are so upset about this and I would like to have a better understanding of it before responding yo anyone. I will wade thru the links/suggestions you all sent....thanks a bunch! This law will have consequences no doubt. I mean you abort legally for whatever reason up to 24 weeks!!!
Another good Google is "Dr. Kermit Gosnell".
Nobody thinks another monster like him can't emerge under this Law?!!!
Yeh, right.
It is barbaric. He's exactly who I thought of. I had someone claim that no one would ever want an abortion at 8 months like no one Carrie's a baby that long then decides to kill it and I thought "you've obviously never heard of Gosnell's house of horrors."
Agree, I can understand a situation occurring that in order to save the mothers life they need to induce/deliver the baby but if it is at a stage that it is viable you don’t need to kill the baby to save the mothers life! Deliver a live baby and still save the mother. Why does the baby need to be killed? |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 1:10 PM Gator Bug - 2019-01-24 12:50 PM MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 12:03 PM Anyone have a link for good factual info as to what the 3rd trimester abortion law that NY recently passed entails/allows? As usual, plenty of misinformation on fb these past few days and I want to know what it actually says. I don't know how to link...
but if you Google "actual ny new abortion law"...
The very first article under Syracuse.com is a very comprehensive article that gives the changes and has a place within to see the actual bill. There are many more articles, but this is probably one of the best.
It is probably the most exspansive abortion law in the country. It also protects or removes any criminality if Roe v. Wade is overturned.
The Dems have been trying to get this for over a decade. The State Legislature just went all Democrat and this was a priority to them.
Elitist Idiots.
How can a state do that....protect against criminality of the supreme court of the US were to overturn Roe v Wade? I really need to brush up on civics/government....is that even allowed?
I have no idea just exactly how they can do that if it were overturned. I haven't read up on it enough yet. But that was a big part of the Law that the Dems wanted.
Also...another 'tid-bit' in the Law...
The Reproductive Health Act allows licensed nurse practitioners, physician assistants and licensed midwives to provide abortions, in addition to physicians.
Like I said in my above post, if people don't think another monster like Dr. Kermit Gosnell won't emerge, they are delusional. |
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Location: Kansas | NY Gov. Cuomo celebrated this by lighting up the spike on top of the new World Trade Center pink. I don't get it.
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Location: Weatherford, TX | rodeomom3 - 2019-01-24 1:24 PM MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 1:19 PM Gator Bug - 2019-01-24 1:16 PM MOGirl07 - 2019-01-24 1:08 PM It sounds to me like the verbiage for the health of the mother is pretty vague and could mean a lot of things (read: loopholes). A lot of libs on my fb freaking out today that conservatives are so upset about this and I would like to have a better understanding of it before responding yo anyone. I will wade thru the links/suggestions you all sent....thanks a bunch! This law will have consequences no doubt. I mean you abort legally for whatever reason up to 24 weeks!!!
Another good Google is "Dr. Kermit Gosnell".
Nobody thinks another monster like him can't emerge under this Law?!!!
Yeh, right.
It is barbaric. He's exactly who I thought of. I had someone claim that no one would ever want an abortion at 8 months like no one Carrie's a baby that long then decides to kill it and I thought "you've obviously never heard of Gosnell's house of horrors."
And like I added above, they are now, under this Law allowing NP's, PA's and licensed mid-wives to also perform abortions.
How can they kill babies? Lefty Libs/Dems believe it is ONLY a fetus. Until it is born, it is not a human and has no rights whatsoever. I mean, under their way of thinking, if it is not a human in the womb, what is it? A Buick?!?!?!
Plus, they justify and frame abortion as "reproductive rights" for women. Nuts.
But, the really big hypocrisy and lunacy to all this way of thinking/legislating is that if you kill a pregnant woman, you get two murder felonies! It's a human then, but not in an abortion.
All their justification is absurd.
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Location: Weatherford, TX | Frodo - 2019-01-24 1:42 PM NY Gov. Cuomo celebrated this by lighting up the spike on top of the new World Trade Center pink. I don't get it.
Believe me, the Dems in both state chambers are very happy and proud of themselves. The Dems just took over and did this first (along with some other 'pet' projects).
Cuomo has said in the recent past that if you are a Conservative, you are not welcome in the state and can move any time.
Just remember, Cuomo will probably run for President in 2020.
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Location: Arizona | Im not on either side of the abortion issue, however, the new law gives more freedom for women to choose what to do, I don't like the fact that the government gets involved in what's best for me and my body...I will decide, period...... |
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| Frodo - 2019-01-24 1:42 PM
NY Gov. Cuomo celebrated this by lighting up the spike on top of the new World Trade Center pink. I don't get it.
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So he is happy that they can now kill girl baby's ?
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Liberals were excited at the notion of the Chinese claim they can get plant life to germinate on the dark side of the moon. That’s right....they celebrate the life of a plant.
Imagine the excitement if we were to discover a living bacterium on Mars. That discovery of “life” would be celebrated....a single celled organism would represent LIFE, and the potential of human beings to live on Mars when the world ends in 12 years, according to dingbat Democrat darling Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, because of climate change.
Meanwhile those of us here in “Peckerwood Nation” are not celebrating this glorification and liberalization of infanticide. |
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Location: Missouri | Gator Bug - 2019-01-24 2:27 PM
Frodo - 2019-01-24 1:42 PM NY Gov. Cuomo celebrated this by lighting up the spike on top of the new World Trade Center pink. I don't get it.
 Believe me, the Dems in both state chambers are very happy and proud of themselves. The Dems just took over and did this first (along with some other 'pet' projects).
Cuomo has said in the recent past that if you are a Conservative, you are not welcome in the state and can move any time.
Just remember, Cuomo will probably run for President in 2020.
You know if a conservative governor said that the media would have a FIT. But because a liberal governor said it... .crickets.
I did read he was considering a presidential bid in 2020. Lord help us.  |
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| LIVE2RUN - 2019-01-24 2:29 PM Im not on either side of the abortion issue, however, the new law gives more freedom for women to choose what to do, I don't like the fact that the government gets involved in what's best for me and my body...I will decide, period...... I agree about being an indiviual decision but I just don’t get how anyone could support injecting lethal drugs into a 30 plus week old baby. It is a baby, a viable human which is why they need to kill it before they deliver it. Deliver the baby, save the mother, killing an 8 or 9 month old baby is not necessary.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I’m against the death penalty, but that being said, I’m astonished at how liberals are so concerned that lethal injection, as a form of capital punishment is considered cruel and unusual punishment for a mass murderer but totally unconcerned with killing a 28 month old baby with KCl, or simply ripping it out piecemeal, or pithing it like a frog to be dissected in biology class. You never hear them decry those barbaric, ghoulish, practices. What’s just as bad is the limp wristed so- called “conservatives” who are too scared to point out their hypocrisy. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Bear - 2019-01-24 12:40 PM
Liberals were excited at the notion of the Chinese claim they can get plant life to germinate on the dark side of the moon. That’s right....they celebrate the life of a plant.
Imagine the excitement if we were to discover a living bacterium on Mars. That discovery of “life” would be celebrated....a single celled organism would represent LIFE, and the potential of human beings to live on Mars when the world ends in 12 years, according to dingbat Democrat darling Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, because of climate change.
Meanwhile those of us here in “Peckerwood Nation” are not celebrating this glorification and liberalization of infanticide.
BWAHAHAHA ^^^
They are crazier than I am and I need a tinfoil hat according to some. |
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