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Aggieruns17
Reg. Jul 2017
Posted 2019-01-30 11:59 AM
Subject: What would you do?


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This week, I had a vet do a lameness exam on my horse who has been hurting pretty bad for a few weeks. This horse is tough as nails and never gives me crap when she is in pain unless she really hurts. After having the vet look at her and do flexions on both hind legs, she determined the horse hurts really bad and suggested that she would never be riding sound again.

My question is, would you just write it off or would you want more information before you turn her out to pasture for the rest of her life? This horse is 6 and I just adore her, so I won't do anything that will make her suffer, but on the other hand, I feel like I should have more information before making such a long term decision. I feel like this is a bit of a rash determination based on flexions, but I know I'm not a professional lol. Is this usual protocol? Looking for some answers from someone who has experience with this.

At the very least (at the vet's recommendation) I am going to give her the year off and breed her. In talking to the vet, she said this is what she would do. The baby will be mine (I won't sell it - period lol) and I wouldn't breed anything I think would have conformation issues in the future. In other words - don't comment if you don't have anything nice to say lol. This has already been a huge bummer on my end.



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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-01-30 12:03 PM
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What is the reason the horse is hurting really bad and deemed not sound to ride ?
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Aggieruns17
Reg. Jul 2017
Posted 2019-01-30 12:06 PM
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All the vet said is that she is in a lot of pain and as a 6 year old going further wouldn't be worth it. She said I could spend 10's of thousands trying to get her sound if I wanted, but it just seems to be a bizarre statement based on flexion alone. But like I said, I'm no expert, and I've never had a lame horse before, so I really don't know what is standard. She didn't go any further than the flexion test. Would you ask for more tests? X-ray/radiograph/ultrasound/MRI? Or just take her word for it?

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rodeodreamin
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2019-01-30 12:07 PM
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I think I'd go to a different vet..... and certainly get xrays, etc 
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barrelracingchick16
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2019-01-30 12:11 PM
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Absolutely get a second opinion. From a vet willing to thoroughly work the horse up to figure out where it is lame, including nerve blocks and diagnostics such as X-ray/ultrasound.
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Silly Filly
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2019-01-30 12:13 PM
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I once had a vet tell me the same about a six year old because of arthritis in his hocks.  I sold him with full disclosure and with maintenance, he went on to be a jam up barrel horse and 19 second pole horse well into his twenties.  Needless to say, I regret not having another vet look at him. Sometimes giving them time off just makes them a year older......
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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2019-01-30 12:13 PM
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She is hurting is NOT a diagnosis. You knew that before you went to the vet. If that is all she had to say then that vet did nothing for you or for the horse. Taking a horse that is too sore to "ever be ride-able" again and making her carry a foal without any actual knowledge as to why she is in pain is really terrible advice.

You need a second opinion and an actual exam with perhaps some diagnostic tests (radiographs, blocking etc) to give you an actual idea as to where the pain is coming from. You need a vet that is actually interested in diagnosing lameness before you write off a 6 year old.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-01-30 12:14 PM
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rodeodreamin - 2019-01-30 12:07 PM

I think I'd go to a different vet..... and certainly get xrays, etcΒ 

Yes I definitely would go to another vet and spend the money on x Ray's or MRI.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2019-01-30 12:21 PM
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Did she offer to find out why she is hurting, do x-rays etc? Β  If not, you need a new vet-a real one lol. Β  If she did and you declined because of expense, then that’s a different story but you’re going to have to be willing to spend some money to find out what is going on. Β  Are you in Texas? we have numerous excellent vets if you need a recommendation. Β Maybe she just needs her hocks injected.

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Gator Bug
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2019-01-30 12:21 PM
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Look...I do not mean to be harsh...EXACTLY WHY is she hurting and from what? What did this vet tell you that means ONLY pasture sound? I read through all the responses and did not see exactly WHY she is hurting or only pasture sound? Until you can say why, I don't think you can ask for opinions on EXACTLY WHAT to do. My first, immediate answer is a good lameness vet.

Trying to help.

 


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Aggieruns17
Reg. Jul 2017
Posted 2019-01-30 12:30 PM
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Nope, I am in Montana. Any suggestions on the best lameness vets up here? I am more than happy to spend money on imaging and maintenance such as injections if it will work, it was just presented to me as essentially a non-option.

The vet did not offer to do any sort of imaging or suggest any reason other than possible poor cartilage development or arthritis. I didn't even start this horse until she was 4, so she had plenty of time to develop that way. She did not give any real explanation, I just went to her because my horse's back has been sore and she hasn't been wanting to pick up her left hind lead (just cross-firing) though she has come out of that mostly in the pasture on her own.

She didn't like how the musculature in her butt was shaped up top (I have been working on filling this Mare out for 2 years since I got her because she was very thin when I purchased her), but in my opinion, the musculature in her butt is looking much better and starting to square up (finally).

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MOGirl07
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2019-01-30 12:40 PM
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I hope this doesn't sound harsh, but I wouldn't work with that vet ever again, myself. If she wasnt specific to WHAT could be causing the pain she's not helping you or the horse, just taking your money.

Sounds like you've got the idea of what you need to do....a second opinion and are willing to do that, so that's great. I hope someone on here can recommend a good lameness vet within driveable distance for you!
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-01-30 12:41 PM
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I would what a lameness vet to be looking at this mare, theres a reason why this horse is sore and if your vet is not willing to put the time in to looking for a problem then find a good horse vet that is willing to do more then just look and touch. 
How does your saddle fit, what brand of saddle do you have, do you have any pictures of your mare?
Hurts really bad is not a answer, kinda sounds like this vet dont really know what to look for are where to start looking.
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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-01-30 12:47 PM
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I'm with the crowd on this one - you need a good lameness vet, or at least one who will methodically move through processes to find what is wrong and where and help find therapy for it, whether physical or pharmaceutical or both. 
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2019-01-30 12:49 PM
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I had a mare with a shoulder injury. Vet said put her down, won't even be a pasture pet. Second opinion was a minor standing surgery... she went on to many many 1D wins for many years...
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Aggieruns17
Reg. Jul 2017
Posted 2019-01-30 12:50 PM
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I had her fitted down at Three Forks Saddlery and they had her in a Circle Y Flex Tree 2. It fits her great. I went through a few saddles trying to find one that fit, so I think we have that issue worked out. I'll go on my phone and post a photo of her. I don't have one from behind on her, but I have some good side shots.
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2019-01-30 12:54 PM
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Where in MT are you?
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Aggieruns17
Reg. Jul 2017
Posted 2019-01-30 1:05 PM
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Whitehall :)
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Aggieruns17
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Posted 2019-01-30 1:08 PM
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Whitehall :)
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-01-30 1:18 PM
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Do you have a good honest horse Chiropractor in your area? If you have a really good one I would have he/she have a look, this mare could be out somewhere.. 
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