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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Gee that sounds familiar. Where did I hear that before? |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The way I look at it is this is the only way to get those jack wagons moving.. I hope it works.. |
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       Location: Missouri | FlyingJT - 2019-02-15 2:28 PM
I'm afraid it's opening Pandora's Box.....
Me too.....not from Trump per se, but the next dem president. Who's to say that he/she will not declare a National Emergency like....to take away guns, for stricter gun control?
IDK. I just think we should be wary of the type of precedent this sets. But then again, Obama declared a state of emergency somewhere around 13 times and Clinton 17 times? I think. So it's definitely not unheard of.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Trump has done everything in his power to make this all work {Wall} but the Dems keep shooting him dowm, so maybe something will happen now..  |
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    Location: Pittsburg, Texas 75686 | Bill Clinton 17 National Emergencies (1 remains active today), George W Bush 13 National Emergencies (11 remain active today), Obam 12 National Emegencies (10 remain active), Donald Trump 4 National Emergencies (3 currently active). Soooo, tell me how anyone can complain about President Trump?? All Presidents do it when they feel it is necessary....we are in the middle of an invasion and our country on the way to being destroyed. Trump is the only President that has worked this hard to protect us. Build the wall ASAP, stop illegal immigration, stop chain migration, and stop the Visa lottery. Fix the loop holes and let our country hear. I live in Texas....people are hurting because of the illegal immigration and our schools are suffering. More is spent on illegal immigration than our own citizen children who are getting left behind. |
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       Location: Missouri | Let me clarify. I don't think that Trump shouldn't have done this. Quite the opposite. I'm sitting here thankful he's continuing to fight for what this country NEEDS done, despite the dems best efforts to stop him.
I'm only a tad concerned about what these unhinged left wing nuts will do in retaliation if/when they ever get control of the office again. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | We need to make sure they never get the presidency again or we are toast. I'm not exaggerating either. |
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| As Cornbread Barry said, "I have a pen and a cell phone." If he could protect his Dreamers via executive order, why shouldn't President Trump be equally entitled to protect the American citizen, also by executive order if necessary? |
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| OregonBR - 2019-02-15 3:21 PM We need to make sure they never get the presidency again or we are toast. I'm not exaggerating either.
I think we are toast no matter what. Anything he (Trump) can do between now and then just buys us a little time. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Whiteboy - 2019-02-15 1:55 PM
OregonBR - 2019-02-15 3:21 PM We need to make sure they never get the presidency again or we are toast. I'm not exaggerating either.
I think we are toast no matter what.Β Anything he (Trump) can do between now and then just buys us a little time.Β Β
So cynical. I think/hope/believe you're wrong. |
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| MOGirl07 - 2019-02-15 2:33 PM
FlyingJT - 2019-02-15 2:28 PM
I'm afraid it's opening Pandora's Box.....
Me too.....not from Trump per se, but the next dem president. Who's to say that he/she will not declare a National Emergency like....to take away guns, for stricter gun control?
IDK. I just think we should be wary of the type of precedent this sets. But then again, Obama declared a state of emergency somewhere around 13 times and Clinton 17 times? I think. So it's definitely not unheard of.
Pelosi is already talking about using it for gun control .....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-warns-republicans-trumps-national-emergency-sets-precedent-for-future-democratic-administrations |
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       Location: Missouri | EagleJess - 2019-02-15 9:40 PM
MOGirl07 - 2019-02-15 2:33 PM
FlyingJT - 2019-02-15 2:28 PM
I'm afraid it's opening Pandora's Box.....
Me too.....not from Trump per se, but the next dem president. Who's to say that he/she will not declare a National Emergency like....to take away guns, for stricter gun control?
IDK. I just think we should be wary of the type of precedent this sets. But then again, Obama declared a state of emergency somewhere around 13 times and Clinton 17 times? I think. So it's definitely not unheard of.
Pelosi is already talking about using it for gun control .....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-warns-republicans-trumps-national-emergency-sets-precedent-for-future-democratic-administrations
I saw that. Makes me sick. I'm like it's a constitutional right you tired old hag. Leave it alone! >:( |
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        Location: Kansas | Never underestimate Donald Trump. The man is a genius. He has tons of money to spend between now and the time the Supreme Court okays this National Emergency step. The wall is being built. My heart melts when I see the Angel moms and dads at these events and I was happy to see them confront Bob Acosta the CNN grinch. I've heard their stories many times on FOX. Liberal media will not talk to them and Nancy Pelosi won't speak with them when they try to explain to her how illegal immigrants are killing their children. Nancy Pelosi is pathetic and I'm wondering more and more if her 100 million in assets and walled-in seaside mansion aren't the product of cartel money. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Weβre really a fractured country and itβs not getting better.
I have friends, colleagues, and relatives who hate Trump and hate everything conservative with a passion, but most are on my βsideβ....and therein lies the problem. We have two βsidesβ on the verge of war with one another. There are people Iβve known all my life and within the last 10 years or so weβve become enemies.
I think we live in a pressure cooker. I really think something will happen and an all out war will ensue, eventually. I hope to hell Im wrong. Some crazy sh!t going on. I think there will be a flash point.
Donβt lose sight of the possibility of something happening to Trump.
He has powerful, cunning enemies. One way or the other, they are determined to take him out. If he survives Mueller and if he is re-elected, someone will try to take him out. If that happens, all hell will break lose.
Things like that have happened before. Our USA bubble is about to burst. |
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        Location: Kansas | A huge part of this problem, Bear, is the liberal media who spew lies and hatred 24/7. People tend to believe them. Even late night comedians joined forces and I personally despise them for this. They're supposed to be comedians not politicians. Don't even get me started on the Hollywood numbnuts. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itβs pointless to list who is to blame or identify who is on which side.
We all know the answers there.
If you think my fear of a civil war is nuts, then google: βIs the US on the brink of civil war?β Youβll be bombarded with all sorts of scenarios and serious discussions. Itβs very sobering, and people need to talk about it.
Conservatives are pretty confident they would prevail over the snowflakes. I donβt share that confidence at all. Most young, healthy people are liberal-Progressive, and a big percentage of them support socialism over capitalism.
If it ever happens, what will emerge will bear no resemblance to the America we all knew and loved. |
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      Location: Arkansas | Bear - 2019-02-16 9:14 AM It’s pointless to list who is to blame or identify who is on which side. We all know the answers there. If you think my fear of a civil war is nuts, then google: “Is the US on the brink of civil war?” You’ll be bombarded with all sorts of scenarios and serious discussions. It’s very sobering, and people need to talk about it. Conservatives are pretty confident they would prevail over the snowflakes. I don’t share that confidence at all. Most young, healthy people are liberal-Progressive, and a big percentage of them support socialism over capitalism. If it ever happens, what will emerge will bear no resemblance to the America we all knew and loved.
I have the same fear, Mr Scott. Chandler and I have talked about this seriously since he was 18, and I truly believe it's closer than ever. . . |
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