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| Do you think she will ever sell eggs from the mare? If so how much would her eggs sell for? What an amazing team. Just one of my random late night thoughts. How cool to own a daughter or son.. |
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| My husband and I were just talking about this the other day! Even if she took a couple weekends off to harvest the embryos, she could sell those embryos for more than what she might win in a weekend. She probably would have her pick of stallions as well. |
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| As long as we’re dreaming! If you could afford an embryo who would you breed Sister to? So many possibilities! Hmm Fist Moonflash? Firewaterontherocks? It’ll be fun to follow her babies when they hit the ground! |
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    Location: MN | Man it'd be nice if I could win the lotto already!! I think Heavenly Firewater would be a pretty neat cross. |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | Bucksinbeauty18 - 2019-03-19 10:42 PM
Do you think she will ever sell eggs from the mare? If so how much would her eggs sell for? What an amazing team. Just one of my random late night thoughts. How cool to own a daughter or son..
I think she could easily ask $20K and get it........ |
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  Location: Hiding from Reality | I would bet this is in the works. Even if they do not raise one out of her of their own they could get a ridiculous amount of money selling them. Who owns the full sibling born the day of the American? |
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    Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Is it breeding or training for a lot of her success. Doesn't mean her offspring are a going to be the same. |
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| BS Hauler - 2019-03-21 10:49 AM
Is it breeding or training for a lot of her success. Doesn't mean her offspring are a going to be the same.
I agree with this. I am sure people will pay high dollar for offspring. It’s not different then humans, my brother and I are completely opposite in almost every way (same parents and same up bringing). |
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| Yep, Look at Scampers Clone... NOT a scamper thats for sure. |
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| Any time you breed any horse it is a gamble. But in order to take that gamble you have to grab the chance when you can. Doesn't matter if its Hailie's Sister or a Frenchman's guy progency, all a gamble. It's all preference on if you like to have a horse bred and see your own results or not. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2019-03-21 11:31 AM
Yep, Look at Scampers Clone... NOT a scamper thats for sure.
Yep, but then look at all the successful MCM offspring. No foal anywhere, has a guaranteed success story when it is born. Someone out there with deep pockets is willing to take that risk I am sure. Unfortunately for me, I am not the one with deep pockets LOL.
I have a mare that is a hot head. . . she has 2 full siblings and 1 maternal sibling, and all 3 of those are cool as a cucumber. Just like people, everyone is their own individual. |
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     Location: Northeast SD | I've been told to price the embryos at 20% of the net worth or winnings. Either way they go about it 20% of either of those would be an insanely priced embryo. They could easily get more than 20k for one. There are people in this game with deep pocketbooks that understand breeding and genetics. |
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| They better have deep pockets because there are always duds, no matter how good the mare is. FSP, MCM, etc have all had them. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Whiteboy - 2019-03-21 3:16 PM
They better have deep pockets because there are always duds, no matter how good the mare is. FSP, MCM, etc have all had them.
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  Location: Illinois | hereiam - 2019-03-21 10:33 AM
I would bet this is in the works. Even if they do not raise one out of her of their own they could get a ridiculous amount of money selling them. Who owns the full sibling born the day of the American?
Hailey owns that baby as well. I think there will be people who will pay a good chunk of money for an embryo. I could easily see some people gambling $20K on one. They're only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. I am sure at some point they will be getting a baby or several out of her for themselves. They have her, would be silly to not at least try and see what they get. Especially with how much they like her. If I had $20K to blow on an embryo I'd probably take a chance. She might be a freak like Secretariat and have babies that are all complete duds, or she may produce some amazing superstars. The way we've bred these horses, the one's at the top of the industry 10 years ago probably wouldn't be a ble to compete with a lot of today's horses. These faster horses got bred and the one's that used to be top dogs, like Stingray, MCM, etc wouldn't be able to hang with a lot of these horses today. Stingray couldn't hang with them the last time she was at the NFR and she was so solid there for a long time and made great runs that just didn't clock. Louie has a hard time keeping up with them, his consistency is what keeps him going and I don't think Lisa would have made it last year if she hadn't had Rosa helping out. And even if Sister's offspring didn't make superstar pro rodeo horses, chances are decent you can still get a 1-2D jackpot horse out of it. And if you sell one because you don't think its gonna make it, there's someone out there who will pay $$ for it. |
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-03-21 3:16 PM
hereiam - 2019-03-21 10:33 AM
I would bet this is in the works. Even if they do not raise one out of her of their own they could get a ridiculous amount of money selling them. Who owns the full sibling born the day of the American?
Hailey owns that baby as well. I think there will be people who will pay a good chunk of money for an embryo. I could easily see some people gambling $20K on one. They're only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. I am sure at some point they will be getting a baby or several out of her for themselves. They have her, would be silly to not at least try and see what they get. Especially with how much they like her. If I had $20K to blow on an embryo I'd probably take a chance. She might be a freak like Secretariat and have babies that are all complete duds, or she may produce some amazing superstars. The way we've bred these horses, the one's at the top of the industry 10 years ago probably wouldn't be a ble to compete with a lot of today's horses. These faster horses got bred and the one's that used to be top dogs, like Stingray, MCM, etc wouldn't be able to hang with a lot of these horses today. Stingray couldn't hang with them the last time she was at the NFR and she was so solid there for a long time and made great runs that just didn't clock. Louie has a hard time keeping up with them, his consistency is what keeps him going and I don't think Lisa would have made it last year if she hadn't had Rosa helping out. And even if Sister's offspring didn't make superstar pro rodeo horses, chances are decent you can still get a 1-2D jackpot horse out of it. And if you sell one because you don't think its gonna make it, there's someone out there who will pay $$ for it.
I definietely agree that i think someone would be willing to buy am Embryo. Look at a lot of those mares like RC Back in Black, MCM, Firewater Fiesta were all living at Royal Vists flushing them for resale (some to keep I imagine too). However, I disagree on your statements about Louie and Stingray. I think age is a lot more of a factor than not being able to compete based on breeding program... If you look at past times on them (granted I know the pattern changes to come degree) but both have been easily sub 14s in the T&M. Like any horse, they do slow down with age. Like we all do. I'd still give anything for a horse at that caliber (now or then). |
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| Stingray and Louie have how many miles on them? They have both been hauled hard and long. Guess what? Horses age and slow down. The great horses of yesterday could still clock with the greats of today. Some people might need to brush up on their pedigree knowledge and what horses are broodmare sires. I’d be very surprised if she couldn’t produce. Especially given her conformation, ability and pedigree. The weakest link in her pedigree is Moon Lark...if you can call that weak. |
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     Location: Texas | Lord have mercy, any mare can produce a dud. But dang, if you wanted to play the odds game, what a mare to take that gamble on. She has every reason to reproduce, way more accolades than many other people can say about their own mares. Word on the street is no, no eggs harvested for resale, but I'm not really in the know. |
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| SKM - 2019-03-21 4:06 PM Stingray and Louie have how many miles on them? They have both been hauled hard and long. Guess what? Horses age and slow down. The great horses of yesterday could still clock with the greats of today. Some people might need to brush up on their pedigree knowledge and what horses are broodmare sires. I’d be very surprised if she couldn’t produce. Especially given her conformation, ability and pedigree. The weakest link in her pedigree is Moon Lark...if you can call that weak. I would say Lazbuddie is the weakest, but I get what you are saying. Also look at the common denominator in DM Sissy Hayday and WD Toole Ta Fame, Troy Crumrine's horse.
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  Location: Illinois | Even when they were younger they still weren't clocking what todays horses are consistently. At one point if you were in the 13s at all you were pretty much guaranteed a check. And some of those years the ground was pretty good as well. Louie wasn't clocking low 13s when he was younger, a high 13 is a sweet run for him. Stingray was in the low 13's by .01 seconds and around the barrels with not much room to spare. And some of these newer horses are clocking low 13s with some all over the place runs. I do think horses have gotten faster these days, I think the horses 10 years ago are faster than the ones 20 years ago. We've bred them with more and more run, they're bound to get faster. You go to local jackpots and there's a lot of younger horses blowing the doors off of arena records, a lot more often than they used to. |
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