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simplytaylor16
Reg. Jul 2019
Posted 2019-10-30 12:54 PM
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Just curious, how do you feel about running a horse that needs injections?

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SoDak
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Posted 2019-10-30 1:07 PM
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simplytaylor16 - 2019-10-30 11:54 AM


Just curious, how do you feel about running a horse that needs injections?


Inject them when needed and run them. Any horse that is runnign barrels is going to need some maintenance... The ground they run on and the stress on their joints, why not help them out to feel better?? 

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MOGirl07
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2019-10-30 2:22 PM
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Doesn't bother me. Honestly I feel like you'd run the tires off your truck finding a horse that truly doesn't require any kind of maintanence. 

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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-10-30 3:28 PM
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I don't care. Of course you have to know the "why" behind injections... but I haven't had a horse yet that has run their whole career at their best level with no injecitons. 

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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2019-10-30 3:36 PM
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Agree 100%, doesnt bother me one bit. Inject them if they need it, they will thank you for it! 

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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2019-10-30 5:06 PM
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Injections are the Normal life of a performance horse.... If a person says they don't need inject any horse ever they probably haven't seen an actual lameness vet nor have had a thorough exam.  Chances are the horse's career wont be at a high level for a very long.   They'll be inconsistent. 

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simplytaylor16
Reg. Jul 2019
Posted 2019-10-31 5:48 AM
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SoDak - 2019-10-30 2:07 PM


simplytaylor16 - 2019-10-30 11:54 AM


Just curious, how do you feel about running a horse that needs injections?



Inject them when needed and run them. Any horse that is runnign barrels is going to need some maintenance... The ground they run on and the stress on their joints, why not help them out to feel better?? 


Hello, I just figured I would ask here because I posted on another websites forum asking for advice on what back shoes I should have for a horse that has hock injections, and basically got attacked that I run my horse when he needs injections. I wasn't sure how many people actually felt this way because where I live, injecting is a normal maitenence and is not seen as cruel.

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simplytaylor16
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Posted 2019-10-31 5:50 AM
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casualdust07 - 2019-10-30 4:28 PM


I don't care. Of course you have to know the "why" behind injections... but I haven't had a horse yet that has run their whole career at their best level with no injecitons. 


I got chewed into on another website because I run my horse that needs hock injections, so wasn't sure if everyone felt this way. Where I live, injecting is normal and not seen as cruel.

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simplytaylor16
Reg. Jul 2019
Posted 2019-10-31 5:51 AM
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WetSaddleBlankets - 2019-10-30 6:06 PM


Injections are the Normal life of a performance horse.... If a person says they don't need inject any horse ever they probably haven't seen an actual lameness vet nor have had a thorough exam.  Chances are the horse's career wont be at a high level for a very long.   They'll be inconsistent. 


You should probably tell that to this other websites forum lol...I was chewed into when I mentioned I run my horse that needs hock injections. That website sees it as cruel to run a horse that needs something like that and I'm going to make him severly lame later on. 

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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2019-10-31 7:20 AM
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simplytaylor16 - 2019-10-31 5:50 AM


casualdust07 - 2019-10-30 4:28 PM


I don't care. Of course you have to know the "why" behind injections... but I haven't had a horse yet that has run their whole career at their best level with no injecitons. 



I got chewed into on another website because I run my horse that needs hock injections, so wasn't sure if everyone felt this way. Where I live, injecting is normal and not seen as cruel.


Why would you let a bunch of couch jockeys try to shame you out taking care of your horse ?

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simplytaylor16
Reg. Jul 2019
Posted 2019-10-31 7:25 AM
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simplytaylor16 - 2019-10-31 5:50 AM


casualdust07 - 2019-10-30 4:28 PM


I don't care. Of course you have to know the "why" behind injections... but I haven't had a horse yet that has run their whole career at their best level with no injecitons. 



I got chewed into on another website because I run my horse that needs hock injections, so wasn't sure if everyone felt this way. Where I live, injecting is normal and not seen as cruel.



Why would you let a bunch of couch jockeys try to shame you out taking care of your horse ?


I'm not sure, I posted asking about what kind of shoes would be best for him and added he gets hock injections because I figured that would play a factor, and almost everyone that replied thought I was very irresponsible and cruel for running a horse that needs injected. 

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SoDak
Reg. Jan 2013
Posted 2019-10-31 8:44 AM
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simplytaylor16 - 2019-10-31 4:48 AM


SoDak - 2019-10-30 2:07 PM


simplytaylor16 - 2019-10-30 11:54 AM


Just curious, how do you feel about running a horse that needs injections?



Inject them when needed and run them. Any horse that is runnign barrels is going to need some maintenance... The ground they run on and the stress on their joints, why not help them out to feel better?? 



Hello, I just figured I would ask here because I posted on another websites forum asking for advice on what back shoes I should have for a horse that has hock injections, and basically got attacked that I run my horse when he needs injections. I wasn't sure how many people actually felt this way because where I live, injecting is a normal maitenence and is not seen as cruel.


Hmm weird. I don't know a competitve horse with a long career that doesn't need them. 
Just like athletes need them or other maintenance. Bodies wear down

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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2019-10-31 11:41 AM
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Funny , the vet for Nellie Miller has stated that he is starting to stay away from injections.  

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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-10-31 1:43 PM
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I finally had to inject Zan's hocks. Several things came together as a perfect storm with his hind end and that was one of four things done. He is now feeling back to near 100%, frisky, happy to work, reaching out. Can't wait to run him again. 

Seeing he is 15 and has run competitively for 10 years I think that he done good. And I'm glad to be able to offer him the pain relief. He's won a lot of money over the years being mr consistent check earner so I owe him. 

I rely heavily on Aleve and other rehab exercises to stay in the saddle. I can't imagine a horse NOT needing some sort of support as the years go by in this or any other athletic event.

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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-10-31 2:23 PM
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run n rate - 2019-10-31 11:41 AM


Funny , the vet for Nellie Miller has stated that he is starting to stay away from injections.  


Maybe that particular vet (IDK who they are so I wouldnt even know) was doing it more than necessary in the past. Who knows the story behind that comment.

 

I don't think anyone should just willy nilly put steroids in a joint but there is no perfect solution for DJD and OA. And its a therapy I will continue to use and administer when I feel it's needed.  I'm on salary anyway. I get paid the same to not do it as I do to do it. So, theres no motive for me other than helping an athlete feel and perform its best in the face of arthritis. 

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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2019-10-31 5:16 PM
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casualdust07 - 2019-11-01 12:23 PM


run n rate - 2019-10-31 11:41 AM


Funny , the vet for Nellie Miller has stated that he is starting to stay away from injections.  



Maybe that particular vet (IDK who they are so I wouldnt even know) was doing it more than necessary in the past. Who knows the story behind that comment.


 


I don't think anyone should just willy nilly put steroids in a joint but there is no perfect solution for DJD and OA. And its a therapy I will continue to use and administer when I feel it's needed.  I'm on salary anyway. I get paid the same to not do it as I do to do it. So, theres no motive for me other than helping an athlete feel and perform its best in the face of arthritis. 


His name is Wally Liberman...he is also my vet.  And a big reason my 18 year old horse I run barrels on and used to cut on is still sound without injections as of this time.  

https://spark.adobe.com/page/E13b4DZw2Z52q/?fbclid=IwAR1i7X7n6bDKlsoPAMkIjAyC62wkdqjuMLD4oUjnLRR-KMOivMH_244I3io

 

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simplytaylor16
Reg. Jul 2019
Posted 2019-11-01 6:16 AM
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lonely va barrelxr - 2019-10-31 2:43 PM


I finally had to inject Zan's hocks. Several things came together as a perfect storm with his hind end and that was one of four things done. He is now feeling back to near 100%, frisky, happy to work, reaching out. Can't wait to run him again. 


Seeing he is 15 and has run competitively for 10 years I think that he done good. And I'm glad to be able to offer him the pain relief. He's won a lot of money over the years being mr consistent check earner so I owe him. 


I rely heavily on Aleve and other rehab exercises to stay in the saddle. I can't imagine a horse NOT needing some sort of support as the years go by in this or any other athletic event.


Some people just seem to feel that it's cruel to inject them so they can keep running I guess, I just don't feel the same way. I don't see what's wrong with injecting my 15 year old's hocks so he can run.

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simplytaylor16
Reg. Jul 2019
Posted 2019-11-01 6:18 AM
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casualdust07 - 2019-10-31 3:23 PM


run n rate - 2019-10-31 11:41 AM


Funny , the vet for Nellie Miller has stated that he is starting to stay away from injections.  



Maybe that particular vet (IDK who they are so I wouldnt even know) was doing it more than necessary in the past. Who knows the story behind that comment.


 


I don't think anyone should just willy nilly put steroids in a joint but there is no perfect solution for DJD and OA. And its a therapy I will continue to use and administer when I feel it's needed.  I'm on salary anyway. I get paid the same to not do it as I do to do it. So, theres no motive for me other than helping an athlete feel and perform its best in the face of arthritis. 


Just wondering, do you feel the same about HA only injections? That is what my 15 year old's hocks are injected with. It seems he just needed some fluid back in there, but inflammation wasn't really a problem so no steriods. 

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simplytaylor16
Reg. Jul 2019
Posted 2019-11-01 6:21 AM
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run n rate - 2019-10-31 6:16 PM


casualdust07 - 2019-11-01 12:23 PM


run n rate - 2019-10-31 11:41 AM


Funny , the vet for Nellie Miller has stated that he is starting to stay away from injections.  



Maybe that particular vet (IDK who they are so I wouldnt even know) was doing it more than necessary in the past. Who knows the story behind that comment.


 


I don't think anyone should just willy nilly put steroids in a joint but there is no perfect solution for DJD and OA. And its a therapy I will continue to use and administer when I feel it's needed.  I'm on salary anyway. I get paid the same to not do it as I do to do it. So, theres no motive for me other than helping an athlete feel and perform its best in the face of arthritis. 



His name is Wally Liberman...he is also my vet.  And a big reason my 18 year old horse I run barrels on and used to cut on is still sound without injections as of this time.  


https://spark.adobe.com/page/E13b4DZw2Z52q/?fbclid=IwAR1i7X7n6bDKlsoPAMkIjAyC62wkdqjuMLD4oUjnLRR-KMOivMH_244I3io


 


You use the equithrive joint supplement? Or which ones? I'm very interested if this does indeed help that much. 

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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2019-11-01 4:13 PM
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simplytaylor16...actually, no I have not used the Equthrive.  I use Cur-ost Pure and have for about 4 years after my little mare was diagnosed with Kidney stones and can't use NSAID's on her so I use the Pure instead .  I 've had such good luck with it I'm kind of at that "If it isn't broke why fix it???" places. I just know that if Dr. Wally is being cautious about when and how many injections he is wanting to do I'm super happy I have him on my team.  

Here's my un professional opinion...I think too often when our horses qyit workign we tend to run them to the vet to be injected when maybe we should look at our saddle fit, our riding habits, our condtioning habits, and not keeping our horses on a regular shoeing schedule.  It all has to work hand in hand.  

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