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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2019-11-25 1:36 PM
Subject: Lying about a horse


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Does KS have any laws about misrepresenting a horse? Sound 14 yr old turned out to be a lame and blind in one eye 20+. 

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TrailGirl
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Posted 2019-11-25 1:41 PM
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Did you purchase sight unseen?  No pre-purchase exam?  Buy from one of those "killbuyers"?

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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2019-11-25 1:47 PM
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Long story but from a friend of a friend. So horse was seen by the one that paid and picked him up, sold without papers. Horse has a brand so it took short work to find out that he did indeed sell with papers the weekend before from the breeder.

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barrelracingchick16
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Posted 2019-11-25 2:03 PM
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   If you purchased sight unseen and did not get a pre purchase examination done on the horse you are SOL. 

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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2019-11-25 2:10 PM
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Even when I have all his details in a text about the horse? And it wasn't sight unseen because all money etc was done by the man that picked the horse snd saw it, a "friend " that also picked one up that wasn't what he was supposed to be. 

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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2019-11-25 2:13 PM
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Typically, if you purchase a horse sight unseen even if you have the texts or info you were given about the horse it most likely would cost you more to take them to court and get a settlement than it would just just eat the loss and chalk it up to a lesson learned, especially if you did not get a pre purchase exam. 

 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-11-25 2:22 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2019-11-25 1:47 PM


Long story but from a friend of a friend. So horse was seen by the one that paid and picked him up, sold without papers. Horse has a brand so it took short work to find out that he did indeed sell with papers the weekend before from the breeder.


So where you buying a papered horse in the first place but then when paid for and picked up he was sold without papers, kinda confused here, lol.. but thats not hard for me, I get confused alot on here, lol 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-11-25 2:32 PM
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And another thing I was thinking about too if the friend did see this horse and accepted the horse when he saw him and paided for him without a vet check I'm thinking theres not much you can do about this.  Whats the 20+ stand for, is it for the horse is older then what was tolded it was? just making sure.

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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2019-11-25 2:50 PM
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No I do not believe Kansas has any laws for that. I know there is the laws for such for cat/dog sales, but I don't know if they would apply to horses. If you would like to PM me I can send over those Kansas statues and maybe see if you can come across something that could be useful for this situation. 

 

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barrelracingchick16
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2019-11-25 3:50 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2019-11-25 2:10 PM


Even when I have all his details in a text about the horse? And it wasn't sight unseen because all money etc was done by the man that picked the horse snd saw it, a "friend " that also picked one up that wasn't what he was supposed to be. 


Still, without a pre purchase examination done by a veterinarian you will be SOL.

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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2019-11-25 4:13 PM
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I just know some states have recourse in blatantly lying. Horse will stay because a 7yr old boy thinks he walks on water.

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-11-25 4:39 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2019-11-25 4:13 PM


I just know some states have recourse in blatantly lying. Horse will stay because a 7yr old boy thinks he walks on water.


Perhaps it may be a blessing in disguise if the horse makes a child happy. Stinks you got lied to though but people are so dishonest nowadays, it's hard to trust anything or anyone. Maybe itll turn out to be a total blessing for the 7 yr old boy AND this poor horse...

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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2019-11-25 4:55 PM
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He's on aspirin daily to keep inflammation out of the eye in hopes of saving the good eye. We just had his teeth done. He'll live like a king, as do all the horses that keep my kids safe. Just ticks me off. I don't think this guy was a horse trader, just saw an opportunity and ran with it.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-11-25 5:07 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2019-11-25 4:55 PM


He's on aspirin daily to keep inflammation out of the eye in hopes of saving the good eye. We just had his teeth done. He'll live like a king, as do all the horses that keep my kids safe. Just ticks me off. I don't think this guy was a horse trader, just saw an opportunity and ran with it.


How long have you had this horse?

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2019-11-25 7:03 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2019-11-25 1:36 PM


Does KS have any laws about misrepresenting a horse? Sound 14 yr old turned out to be a lame and blind in one eye 20+. 


Do you have kind of contract in writing? Even a bill of sale? 

 

You can win a case with little evidence when the error are so blatant that writing wasn't needed. I just won a case against a builder and all we had wasa  simple contract that we both admitted we had changed verbally. But the bad work was so evident that we prevailed. And that was even with the guy who made the repairs saying he did not want to be called to testify. So we didn't call him.

 

It did cost me $1500 in legal fees. And that was a lawyer friend. He refused to pay after the judgement so we put a lien on his property. He paid in less that a week to get that lien off. 

 

But you gotta have something for proof. A copy of the check and the sale ad at least. 

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euchee
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2019-11-25 7:42 PM
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Person saw the horse and accepted him as is and paid for him.  Seems to me the recourse would be with the guy that paid for him, not the seller.  

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-11-25 8:12 PM
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want2chase3 - 2019-11-25 4:39 PM


wyoming barrel racer - 2019-11-25 4:13 PM


I just know some states have recourse in blatantly lying. Horse will stay because a 7yr old boy thinks he walks on water.



Perhaps it may be a blessing in disguise if the horse makes a child happy. Stinks you got lied to though but people are so dishonest nowadays, it's hard to trust anything or anyone. Maybe itll turn out to be a total blessing for the 7 yr old boy AND this poor horse...


I'm so sorry this happened to you, but these were my thoughts exactly--wonderful home for the old guy and awesome "friend" for your son. . . 

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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2019-11-25 9:28 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2019-11-25 4:13 PM


I just know some states have recourse in blatantly lying. Horse will stay because a 7yr old boy thinks he walks on water.


If horse is going to stay, what are you going to take the seller to court for?

A lot of times it is hard enough to win in court to get your money back and have seller take the horse back; but seems to me it would be even harder to KEEP the horse AND expect the court to award you money back on top of it.

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BS Hauler
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2019-11-26 10:39 AM
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Sounds like someone switched horses. 

I would be questioning the person who picked up this horse. 

Maybe he has a horse with papers. 

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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2019-11-26 10:54 AM
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If you're planning to keep the horse then you can not claim you are not satisfied with the purchase.  Unfortunately if you didn't check out the horse yourself, request and receive a pre-purchase exam, or have a contract specificially stating what you are buying (ie a sound, papered Flickachickawhata, 10 year old, 15.2 hand, bay gelding with a sparkle heart brand on L hip) then it's very hard to dispute that what you bought and received is not what what you were expecting.

I wish you luck and I'm sorry that this happened to you but this may turn out to be a blessing for both you and the horse. 

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