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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-05-04 3:55 PM
Subject: $$$$$$$


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how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will

how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides

are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-05-04 4:10 PM
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vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount


Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?

 

All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-05-04 4:54 PM
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jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM

vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM

how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will

how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides

are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount

Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?

 

All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.

Why pick on Trump.  This spend-o-rama is blessed and egged on by the Democrats.  They're cheering for a second round.

...and which party wants "free" health care for illegal migrants while U.S. citizens pay out the ying-yang for their own.

 

 



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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2020-05-04 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: $$$$$$$



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jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.


It was not a tax refund it was a tax rate cut across the board not just as you say the rich. And making a comparison of a tax rate cut to the national debt is like comparing a dog to a duck.

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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2020-05-04 6:08 PM
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jbhoot - 2020-05-04 5:34 PM


jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.



It was not a tax refund it was a tax rate cut across the board not just as you say the rich. And making a comparison of a tax rate cut to the national debt is like comparing a dog to a duck.


Yes, there are differences in refunds and cuts.  Please folks, learn about economics. And, sadly, some consider anyone who is able to pay their bills as 'rich'.

 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-05-04 6:09 PM
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jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.


What about the $150 billion that Obama sent to Iran, now what do you suppose that Iran used that money for? $1.8 billon cash pay off from the Obama administration funded Iran terrorisn, so they can kill all Americans!!!!! 

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-05-04 6:41 PM
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jd&ez - 2020-05-04 5:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.


no at least me  i have been saying that for years but this trillion is over the top we can nit pick all of them president congress but is still you and i that pay the bill

 

bush made a lot more than me but kicks i took  % of his return and mine  shees  i paid a lot more  same with obama  

i am not  debating this i thought and i guess i am wrong a balance budget and why are4 we paying so much to other country and amatrack

 

totally frustrated

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-05-04 7:06 PM
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Leave it to ol' Jd&ez to provide a target rich comment.  I'm not responding to him, because that's an exercise in futility.  He runs and hides, once he's deposited his Yellow Dog blather.

The fact of the matter is we've spent way too much for over 20 years.  We only had a couple years of balanced budgets or surpluses back in the 90's.  Democrats say all the credit for those couple years is due Bill Clinton, but that isn't really true.  Those balanced budgets were the result of a perfect brew of factors.  One, we were at peace.  Two, we had a huge dot com bubble and amazing growth in tech.  Three, we had very large deficits early in Clinton's presidency, but those were reversed with the huge GOP landslide that took over both houses in '94. Remember, presidents do not set budgets....congress does. Four, inflation was kept in check. Five, Clinton has the smarts to move more to the right and work with Republicans.  

Since 2001, we spent like drunken sailors.  Both parties and all presidents.  Honestly, when it comes to fiscal policy, there really isn't a lot of difference between the parties.  They both spend like drunken sailors.

As to Trump's tax cuts, I'll comment later.  Jd&ez's comments just parrot Democrat talking points....typical blather.

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2020-05-04 7:29 PM
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jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.


I think her point is the AMOUNT of money, not who AGREED to the money.   She didn't mention Democrats or Republicans or certain politicians. . . . Just asking how in the world will America pull out of this.  At least that's how I read it.  

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-05-05 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: $$$$$$$


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Frodo - 2020-05-04 4:54 PM



jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.



Why pick on Trump.  This spend-o-rama is blessed and egged on by the Democrats.  They're cheering for a second round.


...and which party wants "free" health care for illegal migrants while U.S. citizens pay out the ying-yang for their own.


 


 


I agree that both parties spend our money as though it's their own. But being factual is not "picking on" the orange one. It's just being factual. 

 

In the case now the argument is not over how much, it's over who gets it. The GOP wants to give out money to the corporations and the Democrats want to give it directly to the people. Neither party is against giving it out. 

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-05-05 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: $$$$$$$


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jbhoot - 2020-05-04 5:34 PM


jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.



It was not a tax refund it was a tax rate cut across the board not just as you say the rich. And making a comparison of a tax rate cut to the national debt is like comparing a dog to a duck.


Tax refund, tax cut, tomato, tuh-mah-to!

 

And it was almostly entirely to the rich. I didn't get a tax cut. In fact I'm paying more now than ever. And making less. I didn't apply for the PPP but I guess I should? Maybe it's time to get a little of that corporate welfare?

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-05-05 9:12 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-05-04 6:09 PM


jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.



What about the $150 billion that Obama sent to Iran, now what do you suppose that Iran used that money for? $1.8 billon cash pay off from the Obama administration funded Iran terrorisn, so they can kill all Americans!!!!! 


There's the ole GOP'er right wing argument, "Others did wrong so it's OK for the orange one to do wrong too". I guess I should go rob a bank today and if I get caught I can just say, "hey, other people have robbed banks!!" Wonder how that defense would fly in the real world?

 

As to your question, Obama should not have given our money away either. I don't excuse him just because others, like Reagan, gave our money away. 

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-05-05 9:14 AM
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Bear - 2020-05-04 7:06 PM


Leave it to ol' Jd&ez to provide a target rich comment.  I'm not responding to him, because that's an exercise in futility.  He runs and hides, once he's deposited his Yellow Dog blather.


The fact of the matter is we've spent way too much for over 20 years.  We only had a couple years of balanced budgets or surpluses back in the 90's.  Democrats say all the credit for those couple years is due Bill Clinton, but that isn't really true.  Those balanced budgets were the result of a perfect brew of factors.  One, we were at peace.  Two, we had a huge dot com bubble and amazing growth in tech.  Three, we had very large deficits early in Clinton's presidency, but those were reversed with the huge GOP landslide that took over both houses in '94. Remember, presidents do not set budgets....congress does. Four, inflation was kept in check. Five, Clinton has the smarts to move more to the right and work with Republicans.  


Since 2001, we spent like drunken sailors.  Both parties and all presidents.  Honestly, when it comes to fiscal policy, there really isn't a lot of difference between the parties.  They both spend like drunken sailors.


As to Trump's tax cuts, I'll comment later.  Jd&ez's comments just parrot Democrat talking points....typical blather.


More personal attacks from the witch doctor with an agenda. 

 

But I've never run and hid from anything. Especially the likes of a poser like you. 

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2020-05-05 9:17 AM
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Chandler's Mom - 2020-05-04 7:29 PM


jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.



I think her point is the AMOUNT of money, not who AGREED to the money.   She didn't mention Democrats or Republicans or certain politicians. . . . Just asking how in the world will America pull out of this.  At least that's how I read it.  


If we pull out of it then it will be on the backs of future genrations. Someone has to pay for this. It will be the workers of the future. It's not going to be corprations paying it back. 

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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2020-05-05 10:52 AM
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I saw someone call President Trump the "orange" one. What would happen if I called President Obama a derogatory name based on his appearance? What if I called the poster a name based on appearance? What if someone called the poster's child a negative name based on child's appearance? Am I on the teen board by accident?

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-05-05 12:00 PM
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jd&ez - 2020-05-05 9:04 AM


Frodo - 2020-05-04 4:54 PM



jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.



Why pick on Trump.  This spend-o-rama is blessed and egged on by the Democrats.  They're cheering for a second round.


...and which party wants "free" health care for illegal migrants while U.S. citizens pay out the ying-yang for their own.


 


 



I agree that both parties spend our money as though it's their own. But being factual is not "picking on" the orange one. It's just being factual. 


 


In the case now the argument is not over how much, it's over who gets it. The GOP wants to give out money to the corporations and the Democrats want to give it directly to the people. Neither party is against giving it out. 


Did you listen to Nancy Pelosi yesterday. She's got her eye on stimulus money for all illegals.....you know those folks who entered our country illegally and are probably responsible for much of the spread of virus in the U.S.  Gov. Cuomo almost the same as admitted it and now Gavin Newsom is concerned about who's crossing California's southern border. How many times did I hear Pelosi and Schumer/Schiff refer to Trump in terms of "no one is above the law".   Well, 20 million illegals seem to be above the law in the eyes of a Democrat.

 

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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2020-05-05 12:31 PM
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CanCan - 2020-05-05 11:52 AM


I saw someone call President Trump the "orange" one. What would happen if I called President Obama a derogatory name based on his appearance? What if I called the poster a name based on appearance? What if someone called the poster's child a negative name based on child's appearance? Am I on the teen board by accident?


the teens on the teen board dont act anywhere near how some act on here(not aimed at you),in fact they are much more mature

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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2020-05-05 12:34 PM
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jd&ez - 2020-05-05 9:09 AM


jbhoot - 2020-05-04 5:34 PM


jd&ez - 2020-05-04 4:10 PM


vjls - 2020-05-04 3:55 PM


how o earth are we ever gonna pay the debt why are we spending so much much we do not have or ever will


how do they spend away our great gran kid future both darn sides


are the people in congress so rich they have never had to decide what get paid and what get a call asking for time or can i pay thos amount



Where was this concern when trump gave a tax refund to the rich on the back of future generations?


 


All the GOP whined about for 8 years under Obama was the debt. Then they got amnesia as soon as the orange one got elected.



It was not a tax refund it was a tax rate cut across the board not just as you say the rich. And making a comparison of a tax rate cut to the national debt is like comparing a dog to a duck.



Tax refund, tax cut, tomato, tuh-mah-to!


 


And it was almostly entirely to the rich. I didn't get a tax cut. In fact I'm paying more now than ever. And making less. I didn't apply for the PPP but I guess I should? Maybe it's time to get a little of that corporate welfare?


Words matter. The use of them show how educated you are on a subject in your case not so much. I call total BS that you did not get a tax rate cut. Show me why you think you did not if you can.

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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2020-05-05 12:35 PM
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What is a liberal?  I think of a human and I take away reason and accountability. Add arrogance and ignorance because they think their plan for your life is the only right one.

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-05-05 4:15 PM
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Small businesses will get $350 billion in guaranteed loans that can be forgiven provided they don’t lay anybody off during the weeks and months ahead. Congress also appropriated money for a variety of different situations, including extra funding for hospitals and relief for student loans.

Also of note, some smaller items unrelated to the coronavirus pandemic were added to the massive piece of legislation, including $25 million for the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in Washington, $7.5 million for the Smithsonian and $75 million for both the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities.

 

As you can see, individuals receive the biggest boost from this sweeping package, with about $560 billion going directly in to their pockets as cash payments or additional unemployment benefits. The big companies get $500 billion, with $58 billion to help the crushed airline sector.

plus 1.1 billion with a B for amtrack

 

i saw also 350 for refugee relocation  

 

all this is totally  wrong but ity happen  yes we the prople are gonna pay i for 1 amd ****ed at everydam 1

also adults that cal presient trump[ names  you are no better than a bully . i wonder how you kids act . i wonder if you would allow your child to be called a name samer dam thing

 

 

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