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        Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | we stop all covid testing.... the ones at the drive ups... the temp checks at the door....ect. How do you see that playing out. |
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| luluwhit - 2020-11-17 10:46 AM
we stop all covid testing.... the ones at the drive ups... the temp checks at the door....ect. How do you see that playing out.
I don't see that happening. But I would imagine it would continue to spread quite rapidly. |
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        Location: Kansas | The very wealthy Elon Musk had four of them in one day. Two were positive and two were negative. Go figure. |
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| Whats the differance. Knowing if you have it or not does nothing in controling it. I don't see any country controling it as of now. lock downs have not worked masks only seem to control the spread the flu not covid. . Until a vacine that works is used I don't see any end to this. only in man's ego does he think he can control mother nature not going to happen. |
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| no way i believe they got a vacinine out this early any good but then i don/t do the flue either |
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        Location: Kansas | vjls - 2020-11-17 1:48 PM
no way i believe they got a vacinine out this early any good but then i don/t do the flue either
The docs say the shot really hurts and leaves you feeling pretty bad for at least 24 hours. You have to take two. Something to look forward to but still better than a ventilator. 
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| What happens if we stop testing?? The MSM will still drum up BS stories to feed the news hawks. A virus is still a virus. Lots of people will get them. Some of them will die. Most of them will survive. Doesn't matter which virus it is! Whoever is making millions on the Covid stuff will probably lose money. I don't care because it's not me. |
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   Location: Randolph, Utah | more testing = more positive numbers. If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy. Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions. |
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    Location: Some where I haven't left yet | We would stop the media fueled panic. I've personally had covid, I'm disappointed that I didn't turn into a zombie or something equally as cool. I don't think we would notice anything different than the normal sesonal cold where a small percentage of the population get very sick. The tests to 'detect' the virus have a large error rate, along with the very large paragraph out lining that fact along with it's for "public health monitoring only" etc etc. The "regular" corona virus will trigger a positive "19" test. I'm weary of the individuals that are allowing the propaganda machine to instil fear in them.... Just a friendly reminder.... YOU CAN NOT SPREAD A DISEASE YOU DON'T HAVE!!!!!! The common cold aka corona has been mutating every year... the same as influeza mutates every single year. So why we are panicking over a cold virus .... ugh, anyway. Unless someone comes up with a way to get covid out of the Environment then the reality is that........ Covid is here, we have learn to live with it, again - it's in the enviroment therefore no amount of virtue signaling, fear, panic, or government mandates will make it go away. Sidenote..... based on PERSONAL experience covid is not near as contagious as the media is trying to play on. I was in direct contact with over 30 people the day that I was "tested" (didn't result for two days) The number of people that tested positive as a result of Me...... ZERO! |
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| Just like you can't stop stupid - you can't force intelligence! If you are sick get tested, if not why are you worried? Covid is real, the test is a joke. |
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  Location: Illinois | My state is locking back down on Friday, not supposed to leave your house unless you're an essential worker or to get supplies. Oh yay, so excited....I think I'd rather have Covid |
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   Location: Randolph, Utah | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2020-11-17 3:22 PM
My state is locking back down on Friday, not supposed to leave your house unless you're an essential worker or to get supplies. Oh yay, so excited....I think I'd rather have Covid
Unfortunately I think Utah is headed the same way. Our lovely governor put a statewide mask mandate into effect last Monday, for 2 weeks, but wants to increase testing of young people. My prediction, they'll test a bunch of young adults, college age, then yell and scream that the numbers are up, and we can't have thanksgiving, schools need to close and no more sports. Oh but a few high schools could play their championship football game last weekend but other sports had to end. . . |
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        Location: Ky | JcNhEmI - 2020-11-17 3:40 PM
more testing = more positive numbers.
If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy.
Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions.
Really? Why doesn't more testing also provide more negative numbers? I never understood trump math on thios. But I'm not a trumper so I can think for myself. It's only a "democratic hoax anyway. One the democrats got the whole world in on. Pretty impressive by those democrats if true. "It will be gone with warm weather". Probaly true since they didn't say what year. "We're turning the corner on it now". Again true, it certainly turned worse after pumpkinhead said that. But the implication was it was going to get better, not worse. And of course the big lie, "it will be gone after the election". But once again, which election wasn't clarified. I still can't see how the testers are picking only the positive cases to shew the numbers. But trump math is only understood by the sheeple. Even when he denies saying it they then fall in line with, yeah, he didn't say what he said yesterday. Back to the original topic, someone please explain how more testing only shews the positive numbers? Or is that like this election is invalid? So OK, Lindsey Graham and ***** MCConnel didn't get re-elected either. Unless it's more trump math? The valid elections are the ones we agree with? |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | jbhoot - 2020-11-17 2:33 PM
Whats the differance. Knowing if you have it or not does nothing in controling it. I don't see any country controling it as of now. lock downs have not worked masks only seem to control the spread the flu not covid. . Until a vacine that works is used I don't see any end to this. only in man's ego does he think he can control mother nature not going to happen.
bingo pretty much everyone in my famdamily has had it. Sick for a day or two and then back to normal stacking bills and being awesome . |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jd&ez - 2020-11-17 5:32 PM
JcNhEmI - 2020-11-17 3:40 PM
more testing = more positive numbers.
If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy.
Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions.
Really? Why doesn't more testing also provide more negative numbers?
I never understood trump math on thios. But I'm not a trumper so I can think for myself. It's only a "democratic hoax anyway. One the democrats got the whole world in on. Pretty impressive by those democrats if true. "It will be gone with warm weather". Probaly true since they didn't say what year. "We're turning the corner on it now". Again true, it certainly turned worse after pumpkinhead said that. But the implication was it was going to get better, not worse. And of course the big lie, "it will be gone after the election". But once again, which election wasn't clarified.
I still can't see how the testers are picking only the positive cases to shew the numbers. But trump math is only understood by the sheeple. Even when he denies saying it they then fall in line with, yeah, he didn't say what he said yesterday.
Back to the original topic, someone please explain how more testing only shews the positive numbers?
Or is that like this election is invalid? So OK, Lindsey Graham and ***** MCConnel didn't get re-elected either. Unless it's more trump math? The valid elections are the ones we agree with?
Hey look Richard Head is back ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!! |
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        Location: Kansas | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2020-11-17 4:22 PM
My state is locking back down on Friday, not supposed to leave your house unless you're an essential worker or to get supplies. Oh yay, so excited....I think I'd rather have Covid
...while a gang of Democrat lawmakers are all piling on a plane to go to Hawaii for a "meeting" at an exclusive resort $600 a night rooms. |
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        Location: Kansas | jd&ez - 2020-11-17 5:32 PM
JcNhEmI - 2020-11-17 3:40 PM
more testing = more positive numbers.
If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy.
Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions.
Really? Why doesn't more testing also provide more negative numbers?
I never understood trump math on thios. But I'm not a trumper so I can think for myself. It's only a "democratic hoax anyway. One the democrats got the whole world in on. Pretty impressive by those democrats if true. "It will be gone with warm weather". Probaly true since they didn't say what year. "We're turning the corner on it now". Again true, it certainly turned worse after pumpkinhead said that. But the implication was it was going to get better, not worse. And of course the big lie, "it will be gone after the election". But once again, which election wasn't clarified.
I still can't see how the testers are picking only the positive cases to shew the numbers. But trump math is only understood by the sheeple. Even when he denies saying it they then fall in line with, yeah, he didn't say what he said yesterday.
Back to the original topic, someone please explain how more testing only shews the positive numbers?
Or is that like this election is invalid? So OK, Lindsey Graham and ***** MCConnel didn't get re-elected either. Unless it's more trump math? The valid elections are the ones we agree with?
You missed the part where a possible hundreds of thousands of votes came in in the middle of the night in multiple states with "only" the Presidential slot marked. The rest were left unmarked in the interest of time. Unverified signatures, no postmarks. at least 21 thousand dead folks voted.......tons of harvested ballots that never should have been out there. Nancy Pelosi: No matter what the end count is, Joe Biden will be president. Not a myth. I saw this soundbite. |
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   Location: Randolph, Utah | jd&ez - 2020-11-17 4:32 PM
JcNhEmI - 2020-11-17 3:40 PM
more testing = more positive numbers.
If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy.
Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions.
Really? Why doesn't more testing also provide more negative numbers?
I never understood trump math on thios. But I'm not a trumper so I can think for myself. It's only a "democratic hoax anyway. One the democrats got the whole world in on. Pretty impressive by those democrats if true. "It will be gone with warm weather". Probaly true since they didn't say what year. "We're turning the corner on it now". Again true, it certainly turned worse after pumpkinhead said that. But the implication was it was going to get better, not worse. And of course the big lie, "it will be gone after the election". But once again, which election wasn't clarified.
I still can't see how the testers are picking only the positive cases to shew the numbers. But trump math is only understood by the sheeple. Even when he denies saying it they then fall in line with, yeah, he didn't say what he said yesterday.
Back to the original topic, someone please explain how more testing only shews the positive numbers?
Or is that like this election is invalid? So OK, Lindsey Graham and ***** MCConnel didn't get re-elected either. Unless it's more trump math? The valid elections are the ones we agree with?
I never said the testers were only picking positive tests. . We're testing every Tom, Dick and Harry that wants to sit in line, Governors are pushing more testing, even people who aren't sick. Of course we're going to have more positive cases, how many people have mild symptoms and run to get tested, or like good little sheep want to know if they are asymptomatic?? My sister had Covid, she wanted to make sure she had a negative test before going back to work. She tested negative, no symptoms, feels 100%. The health department told her she could test positive up to 90 days. So how accurate is her positive test? You know that went toward the number count for the day. . . For hell sakes, eventually we're all going to have it, or have had it. We need to learn how to live with it, same as any other virus. The vaccine will help but it's not going to magically go away with a vaccinne. On another note I am a Trumper but I promise you I can think for myself!  |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2020-11-17 5:32 PM
JcNhEmI - 2020-11-17 3:40 PM
more testing = more positive numbers.
If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy.
Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions.
Really? Why doesn't more testing also provide more negative numbers?
I never understood trump math on thios. But I'm not a trumper so I can think for myself. It's only a "democratic hoax anyway. One the democrats got the whole world in on. Pretty impressive by those democrats if true. "It will be gone with warm weather". Probaly true since they didn't say what year. "We're turning the corner on it now". Again true, it certainly turned worse after pumpkinhead said that. But the implication was it was going to get better, not worse. And of course the big lie, "it will be gone after the election". But once again, which election wasn't clarified.
I still can't see how the testers are picking only the positive cases to shew the numbers. But trump math is only understood by the sheeple. Even when he denies saying it they then fall in line with, yeah, he didn't say what he said yesterday.
Back to the original topic, someone please explain how more testing only shews the positive numbers?
Or is that like this election is invalid? So OK, Lindsey Graham and ***** MCConnel didn't get re-elected either. Unless it's more trump math? The valid elections are the ones we agree with?
Let me explain something to you. Hopefully you'll comprehend. If you need references, including those from your beloved MSM, just ask and I'll provide them to you.
1.) Right now we are approaching 12 M "cases" in the US. The reason I use quotes is because for the first time in history "cases" is used to imply people with illness. We know why. Because people are gullible. In the past, cases of infectious diseases such as measles and influenza were people who were actually ill with disease. Not so with Covid19. These "cases" are numbers of people with positive covid19 tests, 80% of whom had no symptoms or minimal symptoms. Half of those 80% were asymptomatic...not sick. The other half had mild cold or flu symptoms. Actually the percent of people who had Covid19 with symptoms is much much less. I'll explain. 2.) According to the CDC, the number of Covid "cases" actually reflects, at the most, 10% of the real incidence of people who have had the virus in the past 9-10 months. This was determined on the basis of antibody testing. So, in other words, at a minimum, 120 million people have had the Covid19 virus. That number could actually be more than twice that amount of 240 million, because they said the number could possibly be more than 20X the reported figure. Suffice it to say, at least over 1/3rd of the entire population has had the virus. Widespread mask use won't stop the spread of the virus. Now I still wear one because it MIGHT protect someone vulnerable with whom I come in contact. MIGHT. It's not a huge sacrifice, as far as I'm concerned. Shutdowns won't help. Limiting Thanksgiving gatherings is senseless. 3.) Thanks to "operation warp speed" we are weeks away from a vaccine. Time will tell if it is efficacious. I will get one, but I'm at high risk and I believe in vaccines, in general. Trump deserves credit for moving the process along. He said we'd have a vaccine within a year. It will be sooner than that. If it is shown to hugely impact the lethality of Covid19 on the elderly, I'm going to remind you of this.....forever.
4.) Yes, more testing = more "cases". I just explained why. If you still don't understand, I don't know where I can send you for some remedial cognitive therapy.
5.) Covid19 was not a hoax. The way the public has been informed IS a hoax. Shame on science for allowing the MSM to insert the stench of politics into the public discussion. When will we learn that whenever politics is injected into science, it is the science that gets f*cked up....always. |
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| jd&ez - 2020-11-17 5:32 PM
JcNhEmI - 2020-11-17 3:40 PM
more testing = more positive numbers.
If they quit testing - or at least drastically scale it back-maybe we could get back to some sense of normalcy.
Same as with any virus, if you're an at risk individual take precautions.
Really? Why doesn't more testing also provide more negative numbers?
I never understood trump math on thios. But I'm not a trumper so I can think for myself. It's only a "democratic hoax anyway. One the democrats got the whole world in on. Pretty impressive by those democrats if true. "It will be gone with warm weather". Probaly true since they didn't say what year. "We're turning the corner on it now". Again true, it certainly turned worse after pumpkinhead said that. But the implication was it was going to get better, not worse. And of course the big lie, "it will be gone after the election". But once again, which election wasn't clarified.
I still can't see how the testers are picking only the positive cases to shew the numbers. But trump math is only understood by the sheeple. Even when he denies saying it they then fall in line with, yeah, he didn't say what he said yesterday.
Back to the original topic, someone please explain how more testing only shews the positive numbers?
Or is that like this election is invalid? So OK, Lindsey Graham and ***** MCConnel didn't get re-elected either. Unless it's more trump math? The valid elections are the ones we agree with?
More testing, when the results are wonky, CAN and does equal more positives. There have been real reports, including the Head of an African nation (can't remember which one, but it was early on) who sent in Brand new test strips, that he actually sent in himself, that were not used on anyone, and they came back positive. So YOU tell me....when the head of a govt sends in personally witnessed strips that are unused, and gets a positive result....How are we supposed to truly beleive the results? |
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