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| I thought that came from Trump and Matt Geitz. Matt said Trump should pardon himself and many more when he leaves so Trump actually asked if he could pardon himself. Some democrats were talking about continuing to go after Trump when he left office. So much for wanting him to leave peacefully. Oh thats right, it's different if the democrats want to keep him around in their heads. Maxine Waters for one, the most criminal of them all was talking about going after criminal Trump. First off Maxine needs to be investigated again and fairly. In my opinion any politician that gained a substantial fortune while in office needs to be investigated fairly and objectively including Biden and ice cream Nancy. As far as going after Trump when he leaves office I am sick and tired of my taxpayer money going toward the "Get Trump" movement. Fours years at it and wasted when they could have been doing something for the people instead of massaging their butt hurt feelings. Where is the Covid relief? Ice cream Nancy just called congress in for marijuana and tiger king. OT if you think Trump's tweets were bad, many and offensive wait until they start trying to confirm Biden's pic to run OMB. Trump in a longer time frame of being on Twitter had about 30,000 fewer tweets than her. Hillary's girl has been busy going after republicans on Twitter. Lol I hear she has been busy trying to delete her mean girl very offensive tweets...apparently now she is in need of those that she beat up on to vote for her. The next 4 years of Obama/Hillary cocktail promises to be entertaining. Only difference Biden nor Harris has the charisma Obama had to fool his supporters, nor Hillary's bulliness to keep her supporters in line. Red wave will continue with the mid terms!
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        Location: Ky | Some things he's protected from indictment on as a sitting president. He's going to pardon more of his crooks and he will find a way to pardon himself or get himself pardoned. He is corrupt. This has been a corrupt administration and he should be held accountable for his damage. But he won't be even if put in jail. He's damaged this country for decades. The justice dept right now is looking into a pay for pardons scheme. For mthem to do that while he's still in office means there must be remarkable evidence. They know he can, and will, fire them for speaking the truth. It will all be for nothing. The crooks, including trump, will be pardoned. One way or another. Then what will you say? That's rhetorical. I know what trumpers will say. |
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        Location: Kansas | jbhoot - 2020-12-02 5:42 AM
Pardon for what? First you have to have commited a crime. What crime? When did a court find him or anyone in his family guilty? The whole thing is total BS.
Trump tagged it Fake News. Liberal media is on the verge of losing the guy they love to torment 24/7. Whatever will they do for excitement. Their rules don't include tormenting Joe Biden so let's continue the Trump tales of terror. |
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| jd&ez - 2020-12-02 6:45 AM
Some things he's protected from indictment on as a sitting president. He's going to pardon more of his crooks and he will find a way to pardon himself or get himself pardoned. He is corrupt. This has been a corrupt administration and he should be held accountable for his damage. But he won't be even if put in jail. He's damaged this country for decades.
The justice dept right now is looking into a pay for pardons scheme. For mthem to do that while he's still in office means there must be remarkable evidence. They know he can, and will, fire them for speaking the truth.
It will all be for nothing. The crooks, including trump, will be pardoned. One way or another.
Then what will you say? That's rhetorical. I know what trumpers will say.
I usually ignore your post because my simple mind is unable to follow the brilliant way in which you break down your thoughts...but the following has my curiosity peaked. In what way has he been damaging the country for decades? Perhaps this question should be rehetorical as well. I know what you will say.  |
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| jd&ez - 2020-12-02 6:45 AM
Some things he's protected from indictment on as a sitting president. He's going to pardon more of his crooks and he will find a way to pardon himself or get himself pardoned. He is corrupt. This has been a corrupt administration and he should be held accountable for his damage. But he won't be even if put in jail. He's damaged this country for decades.
The justice dept right now is looking into a pay for pardons scheme. For mthem to do that while he's still in office means there must be remarkable evidence. They know he can, and will, fire them for speaking the truth.
It will all be for nothing. The crooks, including trump, will be pardoned. One way or another.
Then what will you say? That's rhetorical. I know what trumpers will say.
Hey Nimrod just what crime did a court of law find him guilty off? Oh that's right none. There for no pardon needed. Just because you are having wet dreams about this doesn't make it so. But you have not said one truthful thing about Trump in 4 years so why would you change now. |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | Frodo - 2020-12-02 6:50 AM jbhoot - 2020-12-02 5:42 AM Pardon for what? First you have to have commited a crime. What crime? When did a court find him or anyone in his family guilty? The whole thing is total BS. Trump tagged it Fake News. Liberal media is on the verge of losing the guy they love to torment 24/7. Whatever will they do for excitement. Their rules don't include tormenting Joe Biden so let's continue the Trump tales of terror. Trump is wrong ..... as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself ..... THEN, Nov. 25, TRUMP re-tweeted the tweet by Matt Gaetz that the president should “pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials" ...... IT is NOT fake news ..... I guess he forgot that HE tweeted the suggestion. Surprise....surprise .... the media picked it up ..... LOL edited to add: EVEN if he does "pardon" himself, family and Guiliani....it does not pardon any from STATE crimes ...
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jbhoot - 2020-12-02 7:24 AM jd&ez - 2020-12-02 6:45 AM Some things he's protected from indictment on as a sitting president. He's going to pardon more of his crooks and he will find a way to pardon himself or get himself pardoned. He is corrupt. This has been a corrupt administration and he should be held accountable for his damage. But he won't be even if put in jail. He's damaged this country for decades. The justice dept right now is looking into a pay for pardons scheme. For mthem to do that while he's still in office means there must be remarkable evidence. They know he can, and will, fire them for speaking the truth. It will all be for nothing. The crooks, including trump, will be pardoned. One way or another. Then what will you say? That's rhetorical. I know what trumpers will say. Hey Nimrod just what crime did a court of law find him guilty off? Oh that's right none. There for no pardon needed. Just because you are having wet dreams about this doesn't make it so. But you have not said one truthful thing about Trump in 4 years so why would you change now. No Nimrod for jd&ez, its Richard, Richard Head... 
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| NJJ - 2020-12-02 10:20 AM Frodo - 2020-12-02 6:50 AM jbhoot - 2020-12-02 5:42 AM Pardon for what? First you have to have commited a crime. What crime? When did a court find him or anyone in his family guilty? The whole thing is total BS. Trump tagged it Fake News. Liberal media is on the verge of losing the guy they love to torment 24/7. Whatever will they do for excitement. Their rules don't include tormenting Joe Biden so let's continue the Trump tales of terror. Trump is wrong ..... as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself ..... THEN, Nov. 25, TRUMP re-tweeted the tweet by Matt Gaetz that the president should “pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials" ...... IT is NOT fake news ..... I guess he forgot that HE tweeted the suggestion. Surprise....surprise .... the media picked it up ..... LOL edited to add: EVEN if he does "pardon" himself, family and Guiliani....it does not pardon any from STATE crimes ... This came up in 2016 if Hillary won if she could pardon herself then again a few years ago when it was brought up about Trump as well as by Trump. I believe even Nixon toyed with the idea. One group of legal scholars say yes he can because the Constitution does not explicitly prohibit it. That excludes impeachment for high crimes etc, civil suits and as you mentioned state criminal cases. Another group of scholars say no a President can't because it would ignite a constitutional catastrophe. I agree with this even with my very limited knowledge. This is Trump's tweet in June of 2018. Recently Trump has been retweeting tweets calling for him to pardon himself and his family and Sean Hannity which bless his heart is passionate about Trump but can be a bit of an over zealous nut, called for the same on his show.
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NJJ - 2020-12-02 10:20 AM
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jbhoot - 2020-12-02 5:42 AM
Pardon for what? First you have to have commited a crime. What crime? When did a court find him or anyone in his family guilty? The whole thing is total BS.
Trump tagged it Fake News. Liberal media is on the verge of losing the guy they love to torment 24/7. Whatever will they do for excitement. Their rules don't include tormenting Joe Biden so let's continue the Trump tales of terror.
Trump is wrong ..... as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself ..... THEN, Nov. 25, TRUMP re-tweeted the tweet by Matt Gaetz that the president should “pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials" ...... IT is NOT fake news ..... I guess he forgot that HE tweeted the suggestion. Surprise....surprise .... the media picked it up ..... LOL
edited to add: EVEN if he does "pardon" himself, family and Guiliani....it does not pardon any from STATE crimes ...
This came up in 2016 if Hillary won if she could pardon herself then again a few years ago when it was brought up about Trump as well as by Trump. I believe even Nixon toyed with the idea.
One group of legal scholars say yes he can because the Constitution does not explicitly prohibit it. That excludes impeachment for high crimes etc, civil suits and as you mentioned state criminal cases.
Another group of scholars say no a President can't because it would ignite a constitutional catastrophe. I agree with this even with my very limited knowledge.
This is Trump's tweet in June of 2018.
Recently Trump has been retweeting tweets calling for him to pardon himself and his family and Sean Hannity which bless his heart is passionate about Trump but can be a bit of an over zealous nut, called for the same on his show.
I guess you missed the point that Trump labeled it FAKE ..... when HE and others have been tweeting about it (LAST week) ..... THEN the media picked it up ....SO IT IS NOT FAKE !!!!! |
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| NJJ - 2020-12-02 11:28 AM Dirt Dobber - 2020-12-02 10:54 AM NJJ - 2020-12-02 10:20 AM Frodo - 2020-12-02 6:50 AM jbhoot - 2020-12-02 5:42 AM Pardon for what? First you have to have commited a crime. What crime? When did a court find him or anyone in his family guilty? The whole thing is total BS. Trump tagged it Fake News. Liberal media is on the verge of losing the guy they love to torment 24/7. Whatever will they do for excitement. Their rules don't include tormenting Joe Biden so let's continue the Trump tales of terror. Trump is wrong ..... as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself ..... THEN, Nov. 25, TRUMP re-tweeted the tweet by Matt Gaetz that the president should “pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials" ...... IT is NOT fake news ..... I guess he forgot that HE tweeted the suggestion. Surprise....surprise .... the media picked it up ..... LOL edited to add: EVEN if he does "pardon" himself, family and Guiliani....it does not pardon any from STATE crimes ... This came up in 2016 if Hillary won if she could pardon herself then again a few years ago when it was brought up about Trump as well as by Trump. I believe even Nixon toyed with the idea. One group of legal scholars say yes he can because the Constitution does not explicitly prohibit it. That excludes impeachment for high crimes etc, civil suits and as you mentioned state criminal cases. Another group of scholars say no a President can't because it would ignite a constitutional catastrophe. I agree with this even with my very limited knowledge. This is Trump's tweet in June of 2018. Recently Trump has been retweeting tweets calling for him to pardon himself and his family and Sean Hannity which bless his heart is passionate about Trump but can be a bit of an over zealous nut, called for the same on his show. I guess you missed the point that Trump labeled it FAKE ..... when HE and others have been tweeting about it (LAST week) ..... THEN the media picked it up ....SO IT IS NOT FAKE !!!!! No I didn't. I was simply adding to the conversation and also thought it worth posting Trump's entire tweet in its correctness. Just a note, it is sort of, itty bitty fake news to post that Trump said he had the absolute "power" to pardon himself when the operative word was "right". The implication is quite different. I haven't heard Trump call this fake news so I really couldn't speak directly to that. I have heard him call the pay for pardon investigation fake news.
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jbhoot - 2020-12-02 7:24 AM
jd&ez - 2020-12-02 6:45 AM
Some things he's protected from indictment on as a sitting president. He's going to pardon more of his crooks and he will find a way to pardon himself or get himself pardoned. He is corrupt. This has been a corrupt administration and he should be held accountable for his damage. But he won't be even if put in jail. He's damaged this country for decades.
The justice dept right now is looking into a pay for pardons scheme. For mthem to do that while he's still in office means there must be remarkable evidence. They know he can, and will, fire them for speaking the truth.
It will all be for nothing. The crooks, including trump, will be pardoned. One way or another.
Then what will you say? That's rhetorical. I know what trumpers will say.
Hey Nimrod just what crime did a court of law find him guilty off? Oh that's right none. There for no pardon needed. Just because you are having wet dreams about this doesn't make it so. But you have not said one truthful thing about Trump in 4 years so why would you change now.
No Nimrod, its Richard, Richard Head... 
I guess these are the type of comments we get from the "Be Best" campaign. It would be nice if any of you could have an opinion without the nasty comments and name calling. I am the hypocrate. You all drink way too much koolaid.  Jack Daniels is much better. |
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| Palopony - 2020-12-02 11:58 AM Southtxponygirl - 2020-12-02 11:36 AM jbhoot - 2020-12-02 7:24 AM jd&ez - 2020-12-02 6:45 AM Some things he's protected from indictment on as a sitting president. He's going to pardon more of his crooks and he will find a way to pardon himself or get himself pardoned. He is corrupt. This has been a corrupt administration and he should be held accountable for his damage. But he won't be even if put in jail. He's damaged this country for decades. The justice dept right now is looking into a pay for pardons scheme. For mthem to do that while he's still in office means there must be remarkable evidence. They know he can, and will, fire them for speaking the truth. It will all be for nothing. The crooks, including trump, will be pardoned. One way or another. Then what will you say? That's rhetorical. I know what trumpers will say. Hey Nimrod just what crime did a court of law find him guilty off? Oh that's right none. There for no pardon needed. Just because you are having wet dreams about this doesn't make it so. But you have not said one truthful thing about Trump in 4 years so why would you change now. No Nimrod, its Richard, Richard Head...  I guess these are the type of comments we get from the "Be Best" campaign. It would be nice if any of you could have an opinion without the nasty comments and name calling. I am the hypocrate. You all drink way too much koolaid.  Jack Daniels is much better. You should be ashamed belittling the Be Best campaign. Are you that petty and resentful that you can't even acknowledge or at least refrain from attacking a campaign that has successfully brought to light and focus on so many issues our children face today? As long as you call out others for the same actions you are guilty of your post mean nothing. I prefer to ignore you but I won't ignore your comments on the Be Best campaign.
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jbhoot - 2020-12-02 5:42 AM
Pardon for what? First you have to have commited a crime. What crime? When did a court find him or anyone in his family guilty? The whole thing is total BS.
Trump tagged it Fake News. Liberal media is on the verge of losing the guy they love to torment 24/7. Whatever will they do for excitement. Their rules don't include tormenting Joe Biden so let's continue the Trump tales of terror.
Trump is wrong ..... as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself ..... THEN, Nov. 25, TRUMP re-tweeted the tweet by Matt Gaetz that the president should “pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials" ...... IT is NOT fake news ..... I guess he forgot that HE tweeted the suggestion. Surprise....surprise .... the media picked it up ..... LOL
edited to add: EVEN if he does "pardon" himself, family and Guiliani....it does not pardon any from STATE crimes ...
This came up in 2016 if Hillary won if she could pardon herself then again a few years ago when it was brought up about Trump as well as by Trump. I believe even Nixon toyed with the idea.
One group of legal scholars say yes he can because the Constitution does not explicitly prohibit it. That excludes impeachment for high crimes etc, civil suits and as you mentioned state criminal cases.
Another group of scholars say no a President can't because it would ignite a constitutional catastrophe. I agree with this even with my very limited knowledge.
This is Trump's tweet in June of 2018.
Recently Trump has been retweeting tweets calling for him to pardon himself and his family and Sean Hannity which bless his heart is passionate about Trump but can be a bit of an over zealous nut, called for the same on his show.
I guess you missed the point that Trump labeled it FAKE ..... when HE and others have been tweeting about it (LAST week) ..... THEN the media picked it up ....SO IT IS NOT FAKE !!!!!
No I didn't. I was simply adding to the conversation and also thought it worth posting Trump's entire tweet in its correctness. Just a note, it is sort of, itty bitty fake news to post that Trump said he had the absolute "power" to pardon himself when the operative word was "right". The implication is quite different.
I haven't heard Trump call this fake news so I really couldn't speak directly to that. I have heard him call the pay for pardon investigation fake news.
Did you miss this IN HIS tweet ....... "I have the absolute right to PARDON myself," |
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Dirt Dobber - 2020-12-02 11:55 AM
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Dirt Dobber - 2020-12-02 10:54 AM
NJJ - 2020-12-02 10:20 AM
Frodo - 2020-12-02 6:50 AM
jbhoot - 2020-12-02 5:42 AM
Pardon for what? First you have to have commited a crime. What crime? When did a court find him or anyone in his family guilty? The whole thing is total BS.
Trump tagged it Fake News. Liberal media is on the verge of losing the guy they love to torment 24/7. Whatever will they do for excitement. Their rules don't include tormenting Joe Biden so let's continue the Trump tales of terror.
Trump is wrong ..... as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself ..... THEN, Nov. 25, TRUMP re-tweeted the tweet by Matt Gaetz that the president should “pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials" ...... IT is NOT fake news ..... I guess he forgot that HE tweeted the suggestion. Surprise....surprise .... the media picked it up ..... LOL
edited to add: EVEN if he does "pardon" himself, family and Guiliani....it does not pardon any from STATE crimes ...
This came up in 2016 if Hillary won if she could pardon herself then again a few years ago when it was brought up about Trump as well as by Trump. I believe even Nixon toyed with the idea.
One group of legal scholars say yes he can because the Constitution does not explicitly prohibit it. That excludes impeachment for high crimes etc, civil suits and as you mentioned state criminal cases.
Another group of scholars say no a President can't because it would ignite a constitutional catastrophe. I agree with this even with my very limited knowledge.
This is Trump's tweet in June of 2018.
Recently Trump has been retweeting tweets calling for him to pardon himself and his family and Sean Hannity which bless his heart is passionate about Trump but can be a bit of an over zealous nut, called for the same on his show.
I guess you missed the point that Trump labeled it FAKE ..... when HE and others have been tweeting about it (LAST week) ..... THEN the media picked it up ....SO IT IS NOT FAKE !!!!!
No I didn't. I was simply adding to the conversation and also thought it worth posting Trump's entire tweet in its correctness. Just a note, it is sort of, itty bitty fake news to post that Trump said he had the absolute "power" to pardon himself when the operative word was "right". The implication is quite different.
I haven't heard Trump call this fake news so I really couldn't speak directly to that. I have heard him call the pay for pardon investigation fake news.
Did you miss this IN HIS tweet ....... "I have the absolute right to PARDON myself,"
Again no, that is what I posted. You posted this; as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself. Again right and power imply two different things and I am sure Trump was aware of that when he tweeted it. |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | Dirt Dobber - 2020-12-02 12:50 PM NJJ - 2020-12-02 12:32 PM Dirt Dobber - 2020-12-02 11:55 AM NJJ - 2020-12-02 11:28 AM Dirt Dobber - 2020-12-02 10:54 AM NJJ - 2020-12-02 10:20 AM Frodo - 2020-12-02 6:50 AM jbhoot - 2020-12-02 5:42 AM Pardon for what? First you have to have commited a crime. What crime? When did a court find him or anyone in his family guilty? The whole thing is total BS. Trump tagged it Fake News. Liberal media is on the verge of losing the guy they love to torment 24/7. Whatever will they do for excitement. Their rules don't include tormenting Joe Biden so let's continue the Trump tales of terror. Trump is wrong ..... as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself ..... THEN, Nov. 25, TRUMP re-tweeted the tweet by Matt Gaetz that the president should “pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials" ...... IT is NOT fake news ..... I guess he forgot that HE tweeted the suggestion. Surprise....surprise .... the media picked it up ..... LOL edited to add: EVEN if he does "pardon" himself, family and Guiliani....it does not pardon any from STATE crimes ... This came up in 2016 if Hillary won if she could pardon herself then again a few years ago when it was brought up about Trump as well as by Trump. I believe even Nixon toyed with the idea. One group of legal scholars say yes he can because the Constitution does not explicitly prohibit it. That excludes impeachment for high crimes etc, civil suits and as you mentioned state criminal cases. Another group of scholars say no a President can't because it would ignite a constitutional catastrophe. I agree with this even with my very limited knowledge. This is Trump's tweet in June of 2018. Recently Trump has been retweeting tweets calling for him to pardon himself and his family and Sean Hannity which bless his heart is passionate about Trump but can be a bit of an over zealous nut, called for the same on his show. I guess you missed the point that Trump labeled it FAKE ..... when HE and others have been tweeting about it (LAST week) ..... THEN the media picked it up ....SO IT IS NOT FAKE !!!!! No I didn't. I was simply adding to the conversation and also thought it worth posting Trump's entire tweet in its correctness. Just a note, it is sort of, itty bitty fake news to post that Trump said he had the absolute "power" to pardon himself when the operative word was "right". The implication is quite different. I haven't heard Trump call this fake news so I really couldn't speak directly to that. I have heard him call the pay for pardon investigation fake news. Did you miss this IN HIS tweet ....... "I have the absolute right to PARDON myself," Again no, that is what I posted. You posted this; as early as June 4, 2018 Trump tweeted that he had the absolute power to PARDON himself. Again right and power imply two different things and I am sure Trump was aware of that when he tweeted it. tomato .... tomaaato ...... GOOD GRIEF !!!! Right (noun) - a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way. power - ability to do or act; capability of doing or accomplishing something.
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