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Location: OH. IO | This morning,we lost a very close family member to covid.She had been admitted to a very well known hospital on Nov.13th.She was 59 years old. No one was able to see her since the day she was admitted.We cannot have a funeral due to covid.So,day 1,they took her to hospital,no contact,very few updates as her significant other was the only person allowed to get updates.He had a tracheotomy years ago that damaged his voicebox,and was very hard to understand on phone.Not even one person could go in when she passed away today.They took her directly to funeral home,and stated they needed her temoved from hospital asap. Its like this never happened.Last time she was seen by family,she was very much alive,now shes gone,will be cremated tomorrow with no visitation. The feelings are very different. Theres nothing to plan,nothing to do,no good byes. I DONT KNOW how this could have been treated any different??? My thoughts.....Masks dont work,sanitizer is touch and go,she confined herself to home,she died. I dont believe our president could have done anything different given the circumstance, and im only saying this,.But,this is my personel experience with covid. Editing because i took out the political part,as maybe folks do want to discuss what could have been done differently.I see a few on here want more covid discussions,so this is my personal story with it.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | So sorry Mary, so hard on the family and friends when they cant at least have a good bye and a hug..  | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I've had the experience of admitting a couple to the hospital together. They were totally isolated at home for months, and stayed indoors throughout the summer. A relative went over to check on them because they couldn't be reached by phone. The husband had fallen out of bed and because of weakness he stayed on the floor all night. The wife was too weak to get off the couch. They were both in rough shape with very low O2 sats and both had Covid pneumonia on chest X-ray. We gave them Dex and sent them off to a larger hospital. I thought they had little chance of survival, but they slowly recovered almost completely, even though they are still in the hospital. Eventually, a granddaughter, and two sons were diagnosed with Covid19, so most likely they weren't as isolated as we were led to believe. The others in the family who were positive for Covid had only mild symptoms. Thank God it didn't end up being one of those sad stories where an elderly couple died together from Covid19. We've had a number of nurses test positive for Covid19. I agree with the decision prioritizing the first vaccines to go to the most vulnerable and the front line healthcare workers, if they want it. For sure I'll get the vaccine, since I'm both high risk and a healthcare worker. My wife and I constantly debate over this, but that's because she's very skeptical of vaccines in general, even though she denies being an anti-vaxxer. | |
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| I'm sorry for your loss. It truly sucks not being able to have a funeral. Not to mention no one being able to go in before the loss. I just lost my chiropractor that I've seen for 26 years to Covid. He was the nicest man around. He was 61. | |
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Location: SW MO | I'm very very sorry for your loss. It is so awful that this is being handled this way. Here people are having funerals just as they always have even with Covid deaths. Back in the spring my step dad passed away & the visitian had to only be 10 people in the chapel at a time & you had to have grave side service, but as many people as wanted could attented the grave side service. But now things are pretty well back to normal as far as funerals are concerned. Again I am so sorry.... HUGS.... | |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | My heart breaks for the double tragedy, 1 ) losing a loved one and 2) not even getting to say your goodbyes or be near them during that time. I have thanked God more than once that my mom and dad didn't live to see this, I cannot imagine not being able to see my parent anywaY let alone thru the process of saying goodbye. Our family literally took over the hospital room when my dad was in hospice, we rotated days and nights with each other . My mom was at a care facilty and we did the same thing, my sitster's rotated days I stayed the nights with her. Its like 2020 and Covid19 took our family from us in more ways than one. Hugs and prayers for the entire family! | |
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Location: Kansas | I hate to hear this. Our General Manager here at work lost her uncle two weeks ago. He lived in Tulsa. 80 years old but was still running his own business and healthy for his age. My own brother in law spent four days in the hospital in Enid with Covid. Is lucky to be alive but doing well. | |
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Location: Some where I haven't left yet | This breaks my heart honestly. My biggest issue with the hysteria around covid or as I call it... covidiocy - is the impact to mental health and other secondary losses which far out weigh covid itself. I understand the concern, I understand taking precautions.... but fear and restrictions ie maskers and anti-maskers...... well, with my knowlege of human history it scares the Heck out of me. I don't want people to die, but they as the meme goes..... Imagine a virus so deadly that you have to be tested to find out if you have it (insert really big eye-roll) I had covid over the summer, I'm active and relatively healthy so I had minimal symptoms. Another person I know that is a solid two pack a day smoker and alcoholic had minimal symptoms from covid as well. Masks don't make a difference unless they are N-95 masks and even then not 100% effective. With all of the "social distancing" and other mandated nonsense isn't making an impact because the virus is in the enviornment. No one is talking about the increase in suicide, the increase in secondary deaths due to lack of medical care ie cancer treatment etc because of covid. I can't imagine dying alone or say getting hurt and not able to have people with me in the hospital.... that is hard on a mind and spirit. The proponents of the government mandates and virtue signaling need to be held accountable for the secondary damage that their fear has caused. I have to be tested once a week, and I get tested going into my place of employment via rapid test every day. The outbreak in the facility is 50% of the population and you only have to be at 70% to reach herd immunity.... the number of aged offenders is very high here.... and the number that are severely ill from covid = ZERO. I think the response by the government and the joke of public health departments has been inconsistent, inneffective and flat out harmful. I mean, how helpful is closing an entrance to walmart so the herd of people go in and out the same door? How is that going to impact the spread of the virus which is in the enviornment as a whole? I won't personally take the vaccine for covid, I believe in a patients right to choose treatment. I don't get the flu vaccine because it's effective rate isn't worth me getting sick from the vaccine (been there... done that). Those vaccines for diseases like tetnus, polio, dyptheria etc have been perfected. I think the vaccine for covid has been rushed through and the side effects are scary - the article in forbes about the increased risk of HIV from the covid vaccine (HIV is a virus I would actually be scared of) is alarming. The request for the UK wanting a software system to track the expected high rate of covid vaccine side effects is also alarming. I'm not anti-vax but I sure would like to know that someone has liability if they kill me off with a vaccine that is supposed to "save me" (lol) Besides, someone with a medical science degree needs to explain to me why vaccines are not dosed by weight. There's a reason why my wiener dog and Chi both get sick off of vaccines and the heeler doesn't. How is it practical and effective for a 400 lb man to recieve the same dose as a 10 lb baby????? concentration of the vaccine by size of the immune system is substantially different. | |
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Location: Kansas | Bear - 2020-12-02 11:18 PM I've had the experience of admitting a couple to the hospital together. They were totally isolated at home for months, and stayed indoors throughout the summer. A relative went over to check on them because they couldn't be reached by phone. The husband had fallen out of bed and because of weakness he stayed on the floor all night. The wife was too weak to get off the couch. They were both in rough shape with very low O2 sats and both had Covid pneumonia on chest X-ray. We gave them Dex and sent them off to a larger hospital. I thought they had little chance of survival, but they slowly recovered almost completely, even though they are still in the hospital. Eventually, a granddaughter, and two sons were diagnosed with Covid19, so most likely they weren't as isolated as we were led to believe. The others in the family who were positive for Covid had only mild symptoms. Thank God it didn't end up being one of those sad stories where an elderly couple died together from Covid19. We've had a number of nurses test positive for Covid19. I agree with the decision prioritizing the first vaccines to go to the most vulnerable and the front line healthcare workers, if they want it. For sure I'll get the vaccine, since I'm both high risk and a healthcare worker. My wife and I constantly debate over this, but that's because she's very skeptical of vaccines in general, even though she denies being an anti-vaxxer. Finally a success story with the elderly couple. I'm kind of like your wife when it comes to vaccines. Any way I look at it I see chemicals injected into bodies but you do what you gotta do in the case of Covid. It's a matter of protecting not only yourself but those around you. Thank you China for this misery none of us needed and thank you Joe Biden for promising free health care and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. Does anyone really think this surge didn't come walking right across our borders.
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| jake16 - 2020-12-02 10:42 PM
This morning,we lost a very close family member to covid.She had been admitted to a very well known hospital on Nov.13th.She was 59 years old.
No one was able to see her since the day she was admitted.We cannot have a funeral due to covid.So,day 1,they took her to hospital,no contact,very few updates as her significant other was the only person allowed to get updates.He had a tracheotomy years ago that damaged his voicebox,and was very hard to understand on phone.Not even one person could go in when she passed away today.They took her directly to funeral home,and stated they needed her temoved from hospital asap.
Its like this never happened.Last time she was seen by family,she was very much alive,now shes gone,will be cremated tomorrow with no visitation.
The feelings are very different. Theres nothing to plan,nothing to do,no good byes.
I DONT KNOW how this could have been treated any different???
My thoughts.....Masks dont work,sanitizer is touch and go,she confined herself to home,she died.
I dont believe our president could have done anything different given the circumstance, and im only saying this,.But,this is my personel experience with covid.
Editing because i took out the political part,as maybe folks do want to discuss what could have been done differently.I see a few on here want more covid discussions,so this is my personal story with it.
I am so sorry for your loss! No one should EVER die alone. I think this makes this is what makes this stupid virus so scary. Again, I am so very sorry for your loss. | |
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| Frodo - 2020-12-03 11:20 AM Bear - 2020-12-02 11:18 PM I've had the experience of admitting a couple to the hospital together. They were totally isolated at home for months, and stayed indoors throughout the summer. A relative went over to check on them because they couldn't be reached by phone. The husband had fallen out of bed and because of weakness he stayed on the floor all night. The wife was too weak to get off the couch. They were both in rough shape with very low O2 sats and both had Covid pneumonia on chest X-ray. We gave them Dex and sent them off to a larger hospital. I thought they had little chance of survival, but they slowly recovered almost completely, even though they are still in the hospital. Eventually, a granddaughter, and two sons were diagnosed with Covid19, so most likely they weren't as isolated as we were led to believe. The others in the family who were positive for Covid had only mild symptoms. Thank God it didn't end up being one of those sad stories where an elderly couple died together from Covid19. We've had a number of nurses test positive for Covid19. I agree with the decision prioritizing the first vaccines to go to the most vulnerable and the front line healthcare workers, if they want it. For sure I'll get the vaccine, since I'm both high risk and a healthcare worker. My wife and I constantly debate over this, but that's because she's very skeptical of vaccines in general, even though she denies being an anti-vaxxer. Finally a success story with the elderly couple. I'm kind of like your wife when it comes to vaccines. Any way I look at it I see chemicals injected into bodies but you do what you gotta do in the case of Covid. It's a matter of protecting not only yourself but those around you. Thank you China for this misery none of us needed and thank you Joe Biden for promising free health care and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. Does anyone really think this surge didn't come walking right across our borders. I agree with you 100% NOTHING is free.......... Do doctors and nurses work for fee?? Are drugs and medical devices free???? Nope.... Someone is paying for it, and its the few Americans who still choose to work that are paying for everyone elses FREE...... I'm in CA and often wonder WHY I still bother to work... I could literally walk in and be taken care of and get everything for free, but thats not me.
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| Lucylouwon - 2020-12-03 12:20 PM
This breaks my heart honestly. My biggest issue with the hysteria around covid or as I call it... covidiocy - is the impact to mental health and other secondary losses which far out weigh covid itself. I understand the concern, I understand taking precautions.... but fear and restrictions ie maskers and anti-maskers...... well, with my knowlege of human history it scares the Heck out of me. I don't want people to die, but they as the meme goes..... Imagine a virus so deadly that you have to be tested to find out if you have it (insert really big eye-roll) I had covid over the summer, I'm active and relatively healthy so I had minimal symptoms. Another person I know that is a solid two pack a day smoker and alcoholic had minimal symptoms from covid as well.
Masks don't make a difference unless they are N-95 masks and even then not 100% effective. With all of the "social distancing" and other mandated nonsense isn't making an impact because the virus is in the enviornment.
No one is talking about the increase in suicide, the increase in secondary deaths due to lack of medical care ie cancer treatment etc because of covid. I can't imagine dying alone or say getting hurt and not able to have people with me in the hospital.... that is hard on a mind and spirit. The proponents of the government mandates and virtue signaling need to be held accountable for the secondary damage that their fear has caused.
I have to be tested once a week, and I get tested going into my place of employment via rapid test every day. The outbreak in the facility is 50% of the population and you only have to be at 70% to reach herd immunity.... the number of aged offenders is very high here.... and the number that are severely ill from covid = ZERO.
I think the response by the government and the joke of public health departments has been inconsistent, inneffective and flat out harmful. I mean, how helpful is closing an entrance to walmart so the herd of people go in and out the same door? How is that going to impact the spread of the virus which is in the enviornment as a whole?
I won't personally take the vaccine for covid, I believe in a patients right to choose treatment. I don't get the flu vaccine because it's effective rate isn't worth me getting sick from the vaccine (been there... done that). Those vaccines for diseases like tetnus, polio, dyptheria etc have been perfected. I think the vaccine for covid has been rushed through and the side effects are scary - the article in forbes about the increased risk of HIV from the covid vaccine (HIV is a virus I would actually be scared of) is alarming. The request for the UK wanting a software system to track the expected high rate of covid vaccine side effects is also alarming. I'm not anti-vax but I sure would like to know that someone has liability if they kill me off with a vaccine that is supposed to "save me" (lol) Besides, someone with a medical science degree needs to explain to me why vaccines are not dosed by weight. There's a reason why my wiener dog and Chi both get sick off of vaccines and the heeler doesn't. How is it practical and effective for a 400 lb man to recieve the same dose as a 10 lb baby????? concentration of the vaccine by size of the immune system is substantially different.
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Location: Oklahoma | I'm sooo sorry Jake16! With techniology the way it is today, why the isolation??? Why are the nurses not facetiming family or voluteers???? at least that!!!! Dont tell me too busy! If it was your love one or person you would want someone to take a minute and facetime you if you couldnt be with someone!!!! | |
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| Turnburnsis - 2020-12-03 5:26 PM
I'm sooo sorry Jake16!
With techniology the way it is today, why the isolation??? Why are the nurses not facetiming family or voluteers???? at least that!!!!
Dont tell me too busy! If it was your love one or person you would want someone to take a minute and facetime you if you couldnt be with someone!!!
I work at a large academic hospital and we will FaceTime people and call family, etc. Our hospital is doing what they can to keep our patient ratio safe. I'm fortunate that i work at a place that is extremely advanced, but we are still over capacity. A lot of hospitals around us are really struggling. Nurses are super busy to begin with, now they have extra patients. My friend that works at a nearby hospital tells me they don't have enough staff. She hasn't even gotten a lunch break in 3 weeks (most being 12 hour shifts). She doesn't feel she can provide safe care with her workload burden. Emergency departments are overwhelmed. Even our ED wait times have tripled. We will keep getting ambulances and patients have to either go to the waiting room or have a hallway bed. Unless a person is working at a hospital floaded with covid, it is easy to judge why certain things aren't happening. I think nurses absolutely should update family's and FaceTime if they can. Many nurses do. Health care professionals are also not allowed to give out info to anyone that calls or wants an update. HIPAA. By your statement, it would appear that you believe no communication is happening. I'm sorry you feel thats the case. Seems like a blanket judgement off a few instances. Many are doing the best they can. "With techniology the way it is today, why the isolation?? Why are the nurses not facetiming family or voluteers???? at least that!!!! Dont tell me too busy! If it was your love one or person you would want someone to take a minute and facetime you if you couldnt be with someone!!!!" | |
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| jake16 - 2020-12-02 10:42 PM This morning,we lost a very close family member to covid.She had been admitted to a very well known hospital on Nov.13th.She was 59 years old. No one was able to see her since the day she was admitted.We cannot have a funeral due to covid.So,day 1,they took her to hospital,no contact,very few updates as her significant other was the only person allowed to get updates.He had a tracheotomy years ago that damaged his voicebox,and was very hard to understand on phone.Not even one person could go in when she passed away today.They took her directly to funeral home,and stated they needed her temoved from hospital asap. Its like this never happened.Last time she was seen by family,she was very much alive,now shes gone,will be cremated tomorrow with no visitation. The feelings are very different. Theres nothing to plan,nothing to do,no good byes. I DONT KNOW how this could have been treated any different??? My thoughts.....Masks dont work,sanitizer is touch and go,she confined herself to home,she died. I dont believe our president could have done anything different given the circumstance, and im only saying this,.But,this is my personel experience with covid. Editing because i took out the political part,as maybe folks do want to discuss what could have been done differently.I see a few on here want more covid discussions,so this is my personal story with it. I am very sorry to hear of your loss. I don't agree with patients having no contact. If a patient is at "end of life," we do allow 1 visitor at a time, immediate family only. Its terrible not being able to say goodbye. Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. Matthew 5:4 ESV Give all your worries to Him, because He cares for you. 1 Peter 5:7 ICB
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Location: Nebraska | cn1705 - 2020-12-05 7:25 AM
Turnburnsis - 2020-12-03 5:26 PM
I'm sooo sorry Jake16!
With techniology the way it is today, why the isolation??? Why are the nurses not facetiming family or voluteers???? at least that!!!!
Dont tell me too busy! If it was your love one or person you would want someone to take a minute and facetime you if you couldnt be with someone!!!
I work at a large academic hospital and we will FaceTime people and call family, etc. Our hospital is doing what they can to keep our patient ratio safe. I'm fortunate that i work at a place that is extremely advanced, but we are still over capacity. A lot of hospitals around us are really struggling. Nurses are super busy to begin with, now they have extra patients. My friend that works at a nearby hospital tells me they don't have enough staff. She hasn't even gotten a lunch break in 3 weeks (most being 12 hour shifts). She doesn't feel she can provide safe care with her workload burden. Emergency departments are overwhelmed. Even our ED wait times have tripled. We will keep getting ambulances and patients have to either go to the waiting room or have a hallway bed.
Unless a person is working at a hospital floaded with covid, it is easy to judge why certain things aren't happening. I think nurses absolutely should update family's and FaceTime if they can. Many nurses do. Health care professionals are also not allowed to give out info to anyone that calls or wants an update. HIPAA.
By your statement, it would appear that you believe no communication is happening. I'm sorry you feel thats the case. Seems like a blanket judgement off a few instances. Many are doing the best they can.
"With techniology the way it is today, why the isolation?? Why are the nurses not facetiming family or voluteers???? at least that!!!! Dont tell me too busy! If it was your love one or person you would want someone to take a minute and facetime you if you couldnt be with someone!!!!"
2 weeks ago I had 2 patients die at the same time while I was proning my other patient. It takes a good 5-7 people to flip someone. It's not that we don't want to be there, we just can't be everywhere we are needed at once. I feel a tremendous amount of guilt when my patients die alone. My hospital started a no one dies alone thing so us mask fitted employees can volunteer to sit with dying patients on our time off. Im working so much that I don't have the time nor the energy to do it. Were so short on high acuity nurses. | |
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| brlracerchick - 2020-12-05 12:15 PM
cn1705 - 2020-12-05 7:25 AM
Turnburnsis - 2020-12-03 5:26 PM
I'm sooo sorry Jake16!
With techniology the way it is today, why the isolation??? Why are the nurses not facetiming family or voluteers???? at least that!!!!
Dont tell me too busy! If it was your love one or person you would want someone to take a minute and facetime you if you couldnt be with someone!!!
I work at a large academic hospital and we will FaceTime people and call family, etc. Our hospital is doing what they can to keep our patient ratio safe. I'm fortunate that i work at a place that is extremely advanced, but we are still over capacity. A lot of hospitals around us are really struggling. Nurses are super busy to begin with, now they have extra patients. My friend that works at a nearby hospital tells me they don't have enough staff. She hasn't even gotten a lunch break in 3 weeks (most being 12 hour shifts). She doesn't feel she can provide safe care with her workload burden. Emergency departments are overwhelmed. Even our ED wait times have tripled. We will keep getting ambulances and patients have to either go to the waiting room or have a hallway bed.
Unless a person is working at a hospital floaded with covid, it is easy to judge why certain things aren't happening. I think nurses absolutely should update family's and FaceTime if they can. Many nurses do. Health care professionals are also not allowed to give out info to anyone that calls or wants an update. HIPAA.
By your statement, it would appear that you believe no communication is happening. I'm sorry you feel thats the case. Seems like a blanket judgement off a few instances. Many are doing the best they can.
"With techniology the way it is today, why the isolation?? Why are the nurses not facetiming family or voluteers???? at least that!!!! Dont tell me too busy! If it was your love one or person you would want someone to take a minute and facetime you if you couldnt be with someone!!!!"
2 weeks ago I had 2 patients die at the same time while I was proning my other patient. It takes a good 5-7 people to flip someone. It's not that we don't want to be there, we just can't be everywhere we are needed at once. I feel a tremendous amount of guilt when my patients die alone. My hospital started a no one dies alone thing so us mask fitted employees can volunteer to sit with dying patients on our time off. Im working so much that I don't have the time nor the energy to do it. Were so short on high acuity nurses.
I'm sorry to hear that, sounds awful. :( Unfortunately we live in a nightmare that most of the public will never truly understand. | |
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