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| seems like a lot of double standars ok for democratis to say hatefull and applauding violence and rioting holding trumps head snoop dog with boby bag of trump fbi lawyer changing document to try frame trump probation now though democratis arrest her for saying we goonna shot peloski but i did not see where she had a gun  Two women were arrested in connection to the U.S. Capitol riot where one of them posted a video on social media saying they were looking for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "to shoot her in the friggin’ brain but we didn’t find her,” according to federal prosecutors. © Provided by NBC NewsDawn Bancroft and Diana Santos-Smith were arrested in Pennsylvania Friday after federal authorities received a tip about the "selfie" video, which appeared to be filmed by Bancroft, according to the criminal complaint. The video depicted Bancroft wearing a red “Make America Great Again” ski-cap style hat and Santos-Smith with a “Make America Great Again” baseball hat in the process of attempting to exit the U.S. Capitol building alongside a mob of other supporters of former President Donald Trump on Jan. 6. so why here and not maxine waters | |
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| vjls - 2021-01-31 2:16 PM seems like a lot of double standars ok for democratis to say hatefull and applauding violence and rioting holding trumps head snoop dog with boby bag of trump fbi lawyer changing document to try frame trump probation now though democratis arrest her for saying we goonna shot peloski but i did not see where she had a gun Two women were arrested in connection to the U.S. Capitol riot where one of them posted a video on social media saying they were looking for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "to shoot her in the friggin’ brain but we didn’t find her,” according to federal prosecutors. © Provided by NBC NewsDawn Bancroft and Diana Santos-Smith were arrested in Pennsylvania Friday after federal authorities received a tip about the "selfie" video, which appeared to be filmed by Bancroft, according to the criminal complaint. The video depicted Bancroft wearing a red “Make America Great Again” ski-cap style hat and Santos-Smith with a “Make America Great Again” baseball hat in the process of attempting to exit the U.S. Capitol building alongside a mob of other supporters of former President Donald Trump on Jan. 6. so why here and not maxine waters So why those ladies instead of Maxine Waters? I don't know....Maybe because -while Maxine Water's might have said a vile thing - she didn't say it while breaking into a capital building as part of a mob attack that did cause deaths...... Maybe it's because they were arrested for "knowlingly entering and remainng in restricted buildings without lawful authority, knowingly engaging in disorderly conduct in any restriced building or grounds, and violent entry and disorderly conduct on capital grounds"? Note - NO charge is for what was said. Only what was DONE.
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| BS Hauler - 2021-01-31 4:00 PM So why has Hllry not been arrested for the 47 hits she ordered. My guess would be that you have not yet came forward with the documented proof you have of those 47 hits she ordered. Not that I blame you, we have seen that strange things happen to individuals that oppose or stand in their way. I do agree, she she seems corrupt and as crooked as a snake, but she was smart enough to not video what she was doing and post it on Facebook. Edited to correct - I shouldn't have implied the lady at the capital posted her video on Facebook. The charges only say that she sent it to her kids.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | The hypocrisy and double standards is rich here. When people on the right say something provocative, they are "doing something" but when the left does the same thing, they are just exercising free speech. Depicting Trump's beheading, Trump's stabbing, or Trump's assassination is just "free speech". Openly fantasizing about blowing up the White House is free speech. I could go on and on. I don't often like to post links, but this one is good for illustrating my point: https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/07/28-times-media-and-democrats-excused-or-endorsed-violence-committed-by-left-wing-activists/
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vjls - 2021-01-31 2:16 PM
seems like a lot of double standars
ok for democratis to say hatefull and applauding violence and rioting holding trumps head snoop dog with boby bag of trump
fbi lawyer changing document to try frame trump probation
now though democratis arrest her for saying we goonna shot peloski but i did not see where she had a gun
Two women were arrested in connection to the U.S. Capitol riot where one of them posted a video on social media saying they were looking for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "to shoot her in the friggin’ brain but we didn’t find her,” according to federal prosecutors.
© Provided by NBC News
Dawn Bancroft and Diana Santos-Smith were arrested in Pennsylvania Friday after federal authorities received a tip about the "selfie" video, which appeared to be filmed by Bancroft, according to the criminal complaint. The video depicted Bancroft wearing a red “Make America Great Again” ski-cap style hat and Santos-Smith with a “Make America Great Again” baseball hat in the process of attempting to exit the U.S. Capitol building alongside a mob of other supporters of former President Donald Trump on Jan. 6.
so why here and not maxine waters
So why those ladies instead of Maxine Waters?
I don't know....Maybe because -while Maxine Water's might have said a vile thing - she didn't say it while breaking into a capital building as part of a mob attack that did cause deaths......
Maybe it's because they were arrested for "knowlingly entering and remainng in restricted buildings without lawful authority, knowingly engaging in disorderly conduct in any restriced building or grounds, and violent entry and disorderly conduct on capital grounds"?
Note - NO charge is for what was said. Only what was DONE.
How do you know Maxine's vile ranting, as well as Kamala's and Corey's, weren't totally responsible for the burning, looting and murders that have gone on for months in liberal cities. You have to have a jumping off point and that just may have been it. Body counts and injuries........many. Liberal media won't even carry it. I still can't get the image of David Dorn, murdered retired cop, just trying to help a friend protect his business, out of my mind. Why not blame Maxine Waters. | |
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Yes I agree that "The hypocrisy and double standards is rich here". We are not talking about a scenario where "when people on the right say something provocative, they are "doing something"" THEY DID SOMETHING WHILE THEY WERE SAYING IT. It stopped being free speech and became a mob riot when the first one stepped through the Capital door. People want to whine, moan and throw their sucker in the dirt because of what has been biasedly said or reported against President Trump. I get that. It has ****ed me off too. People are mad because of how the left side has portrayed the "mostly peacful" protests. I get that. I think it's atrocious too. People are saying that the Capital incident is "Free speech" and "Well the other side has been doing it for so long- so it's ok for us to do it". I don't get that. Never will. I hope like heck I never hold myself to that low of a standard. Wrong is wrong - I don't care what side of the asile you are on. Never once have you seen me defend shinagians the left side has done when it came to things that actually broke the law. I challenge you to do so. | |
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| How do you know Maxine's vile ranting, as well as Kamala's and Corey's, weren't totally responsible for the burning, looting and murders that have gone on for months in liberal cities. You have to have a jumping off point and that just may have been it. Body counts and injuries........many. Liberal media won't even carry it. I still can't get the image of David Dorn, murdered retired cop, just trying to help a friend protect his business, out of my mind. Why not blame Maxine Waters. I do place blame on Maxine,Kamala,Corey AND Trump. I blame anybody on either side that doesn't have enough sense to keep their mouth shut and not inflame things futher. I blame those that are not actually trying to work out our problems instead of pushing political agendas. I blame people on either side that go out and destroy property or lives while rioting. I think that people on either side that want to take things so literally that they will be prevoked by or latch onto the simplest comment are idiots. I think it's utterly rediculious how people speak to each other these days. But I will absolutly defend the right to free speech - even if it's an idiot speaking. Even if I think there are a whole lotta people in this world that ought to speak less and listen more. I will never condone when it moves from free speach into physical illegal actions. From either side.
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| spot on i agree totally there are many that are moderate on bioth side but i really believe to congress they way peloski and them behave is like litte kids and how do u get them out like san fran is terrible 3 world but they keep voting her in | |
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spot on i agree totally there are many that are moderate on bioth side but i really believe to congress they way peloski and them behave is like litte kids
and how do u get them out like san fran is terrible 3 world but they keep voting her in
....and a perfect example is the fact that the Capitol police officer who lost his life in the riot is going to lie in state at the Capitol and his body interred at Arlington National Cemetery. While I have every respect for this man, this again is a Dem sideshow. I'm sure he wouldn't have wanted this, it's a grand opportunity for Chuck and Nancy (part of defund the police) to once again make a tragedy political. Many cops have died in the past year and liberal media doesn't even cover the stories. You can bet they'll cover the heck out of this one. | |
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How do you know Maxine's vile ranting, as well as Kamala's and Corey's, weren't totally responsible for the burning, looting and murders that have gone on for months in liberal cities. You have to have a jumping off point and that just may have been it.
Body counts and injuries........many. Liberal media won't even carry it. I still can't get the image of David Dorn, murdered retired cop, just trying to help a friend protect his business, out of my mind. Why not blame Maxine Waters.
I do place blame on Maxine,Kamala,Corey AND Trump. I blame anybody on either side that doesn't have enough sense to keep their mouth shut and not inflame things futher. I blame those that are not actually trying to work out our problems instead of pushing political agendas. I blame people on either side that go out and destroy property or lives while rioting. I think that people on either side that want to take things so literally that they will be prevoked by or latch onto the simplest comment are idiots. I think it's utterly rediculious how people speak to each other these days.
But I will absolutly defend the right to free speech - even if it's an idiot speaking. Even if I think there are a whole lotta people in this world that ought to speak less and listen more. I will never condone when it moves from free speach into physical illegal actions. From either side.
I completely agree with you. That said, the problem isn't what you or I believe, the problem is what is actually happening. Kamala, Maxine and Corey are not having to hire a team of lawyers to defend them in yet another impeachment trial. Joe Biden is actually the one guilty of a "quid pro quo" but he will not be impeached and no one will investigate the 5 million dollar loan his family recieved from China or the 3.5 million wire transfer from Moscow to his son. Mike Flynn lost his home paying for legal help to get him out of a mess that he really wasn't guilty of, the FBI documents prove that. Yet look at Comey and Brennan lying thier a$$es off to congress but nothing has or will happen to them and they still have thier social media accounts. There is oh so much more and its not going to stop. Biden has not given a single press conference, not had to stand up and answer a single question, his press secretary is a trainwreck, no straight answers from her either but at least shes talking. Of course no one in the media is talking about what a disaster his administration already is, but remember all the bad press Trump got 4 years ago? My only consolation in all this is that whoever is pulling Bidens strings will tank this country so hard and fast that people will be able to see through the lies and propaganda and change things before it is too late. | |
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Yes I agree that "The hypocrisy and double standards is rich here".
We are not talking about a scenario where "when people on the right say something provocative, they are "doing something""
THEY DID SOMETHING WHILE THEY WERE SAYING IT. It stopped being free speech and became a mob riot when the first one stepped through the Capital door.
People want to whine, moan and throw their sucker in the dirt because of what has been biasedly said or reported against President Trump. I get that. It has ****ed me off too.
People are mad because of how the left side has portrayed the "mostly peacful" protests. I get that. I think it's atrocious too.
People are saying that the Capital incident is "Free speech" and "Well the other side has been doing it for so long- so it's ok for us to do it". I don't get that. Never will. I hope like heck I never hold myself to that low of a standard. Wrong is wrong - I don't care what side of the asile you are on.
Never once have you seen me defend shinagians the left side has done when it came to things that actually broke the law. I challenge you to do so.
The capitol protests were free speech. The ones who crossed the line were criminals. I don't see how this is not clear. The media did not try to rationalize the invasion of the Capitol or blatantly mischaracterize it. They did rationalize and mischaracterize it the deadly riots last summer when we saw the Marxist BLM and left wing Antifa rioting, looting, burning, mugging, and killing in vast Blue urban centers. The current VP gloated and said this would not stop...."nor should it." The right wing did not establish wealthy funds designed to bailout the looters and assailants. The Democrat politicians extolled the virtues of these initiatives. I understand your effort to create a moral equivalence.....but you can't. Both were very wrong, but one was celebrated by one side, the other was widely condemned. I'm glad you agree with me that the hypocrisy and double standards is rich. | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | The evidence they needed!! Just to refresh some people’s memories Horrible just horrible President Trump said: "Let's blow up the white house!" Oh wait, that was Madonna. President Trump said: "Lock a 10 year old in a cage with child molesters." Oh wait, that was Peter Fonda about Barren Trump. President Trump said: "We need another John Wilks Booth!" Oh wait, that was Johnny Depp President Trump said: "I fantasize about standing over Donald Trump Jr.'s dead body!" Oh wait, that was Tom Arnold President Trump: *Holds up a bloody, decapitated head* oh wait, that was Kathy Griffith President Trump: *Shoots a likeness of Snoop Dog in a music video, has him in a body bag on his album cover* Oh wait, that was Snoop Dog about Trump President Trump said: "I'd like to take Biden behind a barn to beat him." Oh wait, that was Joe Biden about Trump President Trump said: "I dream of punching him in the face." Oh wait, that was Corey Booker, US Senator President Trump said: "Harass the staff and supporters in public and refuse to serve them." Oh wait, that was Maxine Waters, congresswoman But according to the left wing media/DNC talking points, it's Trump with the hateful rhetoric... all in the name of TOLERANCE... .... But they’re all about peace and coming together, right? | |
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| Bear - 2021-02-01 12:31 PM KindaClassey - 2021-02-01 7:15 AM Yes I agree that "The hypocrisy and double standards is rich here". We are not talking about a scenario where "when people on the right say something provocative, they are "doing something"" THEY DID SOMETHING WHILE THEY WERE SAYING IT. It stopped being free speech and became a mob riot when the first one stepped through the Capital door. People want to whine, moan and throw their sucker in the dirt because of what has been biasedly said or reported against President Trump. I get that. It has ****ed me off too. People are mad because of how the left side has portrayed the "mostly peacful" protests. I get that. I think it's atrocious too. People are saying that the Capital incident is "Free speech" and "Well the other side has been doing it for so long- so it's ok for us to do it". I don't get that. Never will. I hope like heck I never hold myself to that low of a standard. Wrong is wrong - I don't care what side of the asile you are on. Never once have you seen me defend shinagians the left side has done when it came to things that actually broke the law. I challenge you to do so. The capitol protests were free speech. The ones who crossed the line were criminals. I don't see how this is not clear. The media did not try to rationalize the invasion of the Capitol or blatantly mischaracterize it. They did rationalize and mischaracterize it the deadly riots last summer when we saw the Marxist BLM and left wing Antifa rioting, looting, burning, mugging, and killing in vast Blue urban centers. The current VP gloated and said this would not stop...."nor should it." The right wing did not establish wealthy funds designed to bailout the looters and assailants. The Democrat politicians extolled the virtues of these initiatives. I understand your effort to create a moral equivalence.....but you can't. Both were very wrong, but one was celebrated by one side, the other was widely condemned. I'm glad you agree with me that the hypocrisy and double standards is rich. I have 0% problems with and 100% confidence in my "attemp at moral equivilency". From the begining, I was answering the origional question. Why the two ladies that were part of the Capital mob were arrested and not someone like Maxine Waters? I never waivered in my assertion that any idiot can have free speech as long as it didn't spill over into illegal actions. You are the one that took my assertations and extrapolated them into another scenario. I'm not and never was arguing press biased reporting or the correctness of the left's actions. That's a whole nether kettle of fish.
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Scott, you are a voice of reason. What recourse do we have?
I'd say continue to stay on top of developments and seek the truth. It's hard some days, because I get sick of it, but continuing to engage is the one thing you can do safely and legally. Recognize when there is wrongdoing by our side is also important. The left rarely does that. Willingness to harshly criticise hypocrisy by so called conservatives may be hard, but it's one way we can distinguish ourselves from the left. Liberal neo-Marxism is easy to recognize most of the time, but sometimes it is disguised, even stealthy. Some attempt to pose as sensible centrists, or maybe even conservative, but a little prodding will expose them, just like peeling the scab off an abscess, beneath which is rotten, foul smelling pus. Read a lot. Read what the other side is trying to advance. After a while you develop a 6th sense. Sticking our heads in the sand will kill us in the long run. Read....lots. Listen....lots. Persevere. | |
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Bear - 2021-02-01 12:31 PM
KindaClassey - 2021-02-01 7:15 AM
Yes I agree that "The hypocrisy and double standards is rich here".
We are not talking about a scenario where "when people on the right say something provocative, they are "doing something""
THEY DID SOMETHING WHILE THEY WERE SAYING IT. It stopped being free speech and became a mob riot when the first one stepped through the Capital door.
People want to whine, moan and throw their sucker in the dirt because of what has been biasedly said or reported against President Trump. I get that. It has ****ed me off too.
People are mad because of how the left side has portrayed the "mostly peacful" protests. I get that. I think it's atrocious too.
People are saying that the Capital incident is "Free speech" and "Well the other side has been doing it for so long- so it's ok for us to do it". I don't get that. Never will. I hope like heck I never hold myself to that low of a standard. Wrong is wrong - I don't care what side of the asile you are on.
Never once have you seen me defend shinagians the left side has done when it came to things that actually broke the law. I challenge you to do so.
The capitol protests were free speech. The ones who crossed the line were criminals. I don't see how this is not clear. The media did not try to rationalize the invasion of the Capitol or blatantly mischaracterize it. They did rationalize and mischaracterize it the deadly riots last summer when we saw the Marxist BLM and left wing Antifa rioting, looting, burning, mugging, and killing in vast Blue urban centers. The current VP gloated and said this would not stop...."nor should it." The right wing did not establish wealthy funds designed to bailout the looters and assailants. The Democrat politicians extolled the virtues of these initiatives. I understand your effort to create a moral equivalence.....but you can't. Both were very wrong, but one was celebrated by one side, the other was widely condemned. I'm glad you agree with me that the hypocrisy and double standards is rich.
I have 0% problems with and 100% confidence in my "attemp at moral equivilency". From the begining, I was answering the origional question. Why the two ladies that were part of the Capital mob were arrested and not someone like Maxine Waters? I never waivered in my assertion that any idiot can have free speech as long as it didn't spill over into illegal actions.
You are the one that took my assertations and extrapolated them into another scenario. I'm not and never was arguing press biased reporting or the correctness of the left's actions. That's a whole nether kettle of fish.
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The evidence they needed!!
Just to refresh some people’s memories
Horrible just horrible
President Trump said:
"Let's blow up the white house!" Oh wait, that was Madonna.
President Trump said:
"Lock a 10 year old in a cage with child molesters." Oh wait, that was Peter Fonda about Barren Trump.
President Trump said:
"We need another John Wilks Booth!" Oh wait, that was Johnny Depp
President Trump said:
"I fantasize about standing over Donald Trump Jr.'s dead body!" Oh wait, that was Tom Arnold
President Trump:
*Holds up a bloody, decapitated head* oh wait, that was Kathy Griffith
President Trump:
*Shoots a likeness of Snoop Dog in a music video, has him in a body bag on his album cover* Oh wait, that was Snoop Dog about Trump
President Trump said:
"I'd like to take Biden behind a barn to beat him." Oh wait, that was Joe Biden about Trump
President Trump said:
"I dream of punching him in the face." Oh wait, that was Corey Booker, US Senator
President Trump said:
"Harass the staff and supporters in public and refuse to serve them."
Oh wait, that was Maxine Waters, congresswoman
But according to the left wing media/DNC talking points, it's Trump with the hateful rhetoric... all in the name of TOLERANCE...
.... But they’re all about peace and coming together, right?
Wow this is good!!!! With all this crap that has been seen with our own eyes and heard with our own ears, how can they be calling for Unity? They the Dems are the ones that started all this and said all this, so how in the heck can we want Unity with these Clowns, Come on man!!!! They are just pure evil. I would love to see all these aholes taken behind the schools gym and have the hell whooped outa all of them.. | |
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