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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-08-16 9:51 PM
Subject: OT- Covid question



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I'm very curious how this vaccine works or doesn't work. I'm confused now. I was just reading a story a nurse had shared in Facebook about how she lost another patient today to covid. I dug a little deeper and read thru her other posts on her page and it turns out the patient she was referring to, per her, was fully vaccinated and "did everything right" but, since other people are refusing the vaccination her fully vaccinated done everything right patient passed away.  How is that possible, i mean, anything is possible,  but it just doesn't make much sense to me... at all. I'm not looking to debate get vaccinated, I'm just curious how this works. The vaccine is only effective if EVERYONE gets vaccinated? I'm saddened there are so many deaths and I feel for the families and our Healthcare workers going thru all this. It's scary times.

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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2021-08-17 6:06 AM
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JMO, so take it or leave it. But they really have no idea yet if the vaccine works. Per the CDC's own admission, if you've had COVID, you honestly shouldn't need the vaccine because your body already has what the virus is in its memory.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html

 

 



Edited by SKM 2021-08-17 6:07 AM
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-08-17 8:21 AM
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I watched an interesting video last night from a Dr explaining the 4 different vaccines and how they are supposed to work, how they were designed. It was an unbiased NON political segment on it. He basically said at the end of the day whether you chose to get these or are forced to in order to keep your job, his goal is to help get and keep you healthy so he's sharing as much information as he possibly can so you can make an informed decision. As we all probably know, none of the vaccines are FDA approved, and something I didn't know,  each company has multi million dollar lawsuits pending because of these vaccines.  As of right now, we are refusing the vaccines in my household. I've gone a few rounds with certain in laws and I just can't wrap my head around their logic and vice versa. 

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2021-08-17 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: OT- Covid question



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You still get, carry, and pass the virus wether vaccinated or not. So no, unvaccinated aren't more of a threat or causing vaccinated to get sick & die. Everyone is an equal threat as far as spreading the virus. The vaccine just lowers your risks of dying or being sick. Basically like a horse vaccine, like Potomac for example. The vaccine won't stop them from getting it, just typically makes the symtoms less severe. I still had one hopistalized for it and he was vaccinated, vet said hadn't he been vaxed we probbaly would've lost him in the first couple days. Works the same way for this. They also don't know if it works as its not tested. Plus they're now saying to booster it with a 3rd at 8 months. That tells you right there its failing 

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-08-17 10:08 AM
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So why the aggressive push on the vaccine that they aren't even sure if it will work? That's my and several people I know question. I also have been reading that several deaths and those hospitalized are those that had one of these vaccines. I was debating this with someone the other day and was told I was being selfish for not getting it, they had a close friend that recently passed away from Covid but was also extremely overweight and suffered from diabetes.. sometimes I have to wonder if these people even really think about whats coming out of their mouth. 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-08-17 10:28 AM
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I got my first Pfizer a while back and my second one is this Friday.  Wasn't sure this was the right thing to do or not but just made the decision and did it.  Would never ever pass judgement on anyone who didn't.  It's supposed to be a free country but now in NY you'll need a vax card to enter a restaurant, gym, or see a show.  Yet I'm watching a baseball game in San Francisco last night where thousands are packed into the stadium.  Hmmmm.

Saw where the McAllen, Tx hospital is loaded with Covid patients......80 percent illegal migrants.  Wonder who's going to pay their hospital bills.

 

 

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2021-08-17 10:28 AM
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Well the case numbers are inaccurate to start with. It says right on the CDC website anyone with covid symtoms, tested positive or not, are included in the numbers. So a large chunk are actually probably flu cases. I had covid the last month and am fine. 100lbs overweight, heart murmur, high BP, and a leaking valve. I've had a small cough for a month, but its been nothing I'd get vaccinated for. And I'm supposedly super high risk for covid. And some of the ones pushing the vaccines have financial stakes in the company. So they're obviously going to push it hard. I'm not saying covid isn't real, buts its definitely been blown up way more than necessary and being used for financial and political agendas. So naturally you'll have this kind of situation. Our local hospitals have given notice to any employees that if they aren't vaccinated in the next 60 days they're fired. And several hundred have openen a lawsuit against it. So if that many of the ones working on the frontlines of the virus don't want the vaccine, that should tell you all you need to know about it really. 

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okhorselover
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2021-08-17 6:49 PM
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I talk & listen to my own Dr. Not fb or any other source. My Dr has watched people die from this. 

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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2021-08-17 7:00 PM
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We are seeing about 1/3 to 1/2 of our patients being admitted are fully vaccinated. I will say that the vaccinated are less sick. We're also seeing younger patients than before. I was just mandated to get the vaccine. I've also been pulled back to work the floor part time. I just pray that this isn't as bad as last year. We are all so tired and the ptsd is so real.

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Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2021-08-17 8:47 PM
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want2chase3 - 2021-08-17 11:08 AM


So why the aggressive push on the vaccine that they aren't even sure if it will work? That's my and several people I know question. I also have been reading that several deaths and those hospitalized are those that had one of these vaccines. I was debating this with someone the other day and was told I was being selfish for not getting it, they had a close friend that recently passed away from Covid but was also extremely overweight and suffered from diabetes.. sometimes I have to wonder if these people even really think about whats coming out of their mouth. 


 

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SoCalBarrelracer
Reg. Sep 2014
Posted 2021-08-17 9:00 PM
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So this is an interesting watch... I suggest that you watch it start to finish it will give u some interesting insight. I gather it's independently made and so on but as a critical care nurse I can attest to what she says and it's scary to know that its not just being seen by myself and colleagues but by others and other countries and so on... 

 

 

 

https://rumble.com/vl2uxz-icu-nurse-youre-being-lied-to-about-covid..html

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euchee
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2021-08-17 9:10 PM
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SoCalBarrelracer - 2021-08-17 9:00 PM


So this is an interesting watch... I suggest that you watch it start to finish it will give u some interesting insight. I gather it's independently made and so on but as a critical care nurse I can attest to what she says and it's scary to know that its not just being seen by myself and colleagues but by others and other countries and so on... 


 


 


 


https://rumble.com/vl2uxz-icu-nurse-youre-being-lied-to-about-covid..html


So are you pro vaccination or against it?  How do you feel about the Ivermectin?

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SoCalBarrelracer
Reg. Sep 2014
Posted 2021-08-18 2:12 AM
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I'm pro making my own choice. I personally think all vaccines they are considered safe and effective should be administered that's how we have been able to combat and keep so many things away. But with that being said  I myself have not been vaccinated because I would like to think that more time should be allowed before it's considered a first line of defense. As well as I am seeing many people vaccinated be positive and be admitted to hospital. I commend those that are not fearful of being vaccinated and can go ahead with it! More power to you I mean I suppose that at the end of this we can call it the worlds largest clinical trial! I myself have daily anxiety thinking about it. So I make the choice for myself to be diligent in wearing my mask or being aware of who is in my space. 

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2021-08-18 7:07 AM
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I don't knock anyone for getting the vaccine, or wearing a mask. Its their choice, all I ask in return is the same respect for me choosing not to. I honestly cannot even remember the last time I was sick. I believe in maintaining a strong functioning immune system, same for my kids. We take extra vitamins, use common sense hygiene practices... no, I don't think we are bullet proof, but I do believe you can give yourself the best chance by living healthy and having a strong immune system. We take colloidal silver at the first sign of any illness and a boost of vitamin C and zinc, also vitamin D .... so far, its worked great. I do not know if we've been exposed directly to covid and I do not know if we've had it. Never tested. My boys get sick it's usually gone within 24 hours with my above mentioned regime so I don't run to the nearest clinic at the first sign of illness. I hope and pray we don't get seriously ill and do my best for prevention but we don't live in fear either. I do homeschool my kids as well but they are not sheltered from the outside world we go plenty of crowded places! 

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-08-18 8:25 PM
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want2chase3 - 2021-08-16 10:51 PM


I'm very curious how this vaccine works or doesn't work. I'm confused now. I was just reading a story a nurse had shared in Facebook about how she lost another patient today to covid. I dug a little deeper and read thru her other posts on her page and it turns out the patient she was referring to, per her, was fully vaccinated and "did everything right" but, since other people are refusing the vaccination her fully vaccinated done everything right patient passed away.  How is that possible, i mean, anything is possible,  but it just doesn't make much sense to me... at all. I'm not looking to debate get vaccinated, I'm just curious how this works. The vaccine is only effective if EVERYONE gets vaccinated? I'm saddened there are so many deaths and I feel for the families and our Healthcare workers going thru all this. It's scary times.


i hear a lot however i think you answered your own question

let me take smallpox     if your vacanniated  you can not not get it period

 

 

so if you hav covid vaccine and you get it  what does that tell u ? that there is no vaccine  a shot yes vaccine no  

 

look at the crusie ship 100% vccined  however they still had out break

 

 

but you do ur  research think about pray  then do what you think

 

i also learned something ameriocan are no lnger vaccineated for smallpox rouintely  since 1972. now they fear outbreak

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GOIN' FAST
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2021-08-19 5:31 PM
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https://youtu.be/D1onx7LaNio Another interesting watch.

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Gsdknox44
Reg. May 2018
Posted 2021-08-19 10:12 PM
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I'm an ICU RN that is currently working in an all covid unit in which we are drowning in young covid patients, largely due to the same misinformation that is being spread on this post. 
100% OF OUR COVID PATIENTS IN THE ICU ARE NOT VACCINATED AND THEY ARE ALL ON VENTILATORS.
The majority of them didn't believe in covid or "didn't want a microchip in their arm" and now because of misinformation spread on the internet that they read they now have a tube down their throat so they can breathe and another tube up their butt so when they poop it prevents their skin from breaking down, along with the numerous iv's and central lines so we can give them the iv medications that are barely keeping them alive.
Please for the love of God get your information from credible sources, like those that are working in it each and everyday not those that can barely spell covid. I am TIRED of putting healthy 30-40 year olds in body bags due to their ignorance surrounding the vaccine. 
The vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting covid, it prevents you from getting deathly ill and having to be hospitalized because of it. But what do I know, it's not like a work in a covid icu or anything....

 

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sport565
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2021-08-19 10:20 PM
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Thanks for your post. Exactly what we are seeing

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Ricki
Reg. May 2021
Posted 2021-08-20 7:41 AM
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My entire family has been vaccinated, my co- workers have been vaccinated by choice.  I trusted my primary care physician to guide me.  None of us have had COVID or tested positive for COVID even after exposure.  I question of course why have we avoided getting sick or testing positive when others that have been vaccinated have.  Our counties and surrounding counties have moderate numbers.  I am not sitting around though worried about whether or not anyone is vaccinated or not. 

It should be a choice.

I am a little bit worried though that every time I walk by my steel utility trailer on the side I was vaccinated - if I get too close my arm gets stuck to the side.  

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2021-08-20 9:10 AM
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Gsdknox44 - 2021-08-19 10:12 PM


I'm an ICU RN that is currently working in an all covid unit in which we are drowning in young covid patients, largely due to the same misinformation that is being spread on this post. 
100% OF OUR COVID PATIENTS IN THE ICU ARE NOT VACCINATED AND THEY ARE ALL ON VENTILATORS.
The majority of them didn't believe in covid or "didn't want a microchip in their arm" and now because of misinformation spread on the internet that they read they now have a tube down their throat so they can breathe and another tube up their butt so when they poop it prevents their skin from breaking down, along with the numerous iv's and central lines so we can give them the iv medications that are barely keeping them alive.
Please for the love of God get your information from credible sources, like those that are working in it each and everyday not those that can barely spell covid. I am TIRED of putting healthy 30-40 year olds in body bags due to their ignorance surrounding the vaccine. 
The vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting covid, it prevents you from getting deathly ill and having to be hospitalized because of it. But what do I know, it's not like a work in a covid icu or anything....


 


I believe its bad for some, I'm not trying to discredit that. Where I'm at it's not. My friend thats a nurse has been working the covid patients and she said based on what she's seen she wouldn't get the vaccine. And she's getting fired for it next month because the hospital is rquiring all employees be vaccinated. They've got about 200 nurses and doctors currently working with a lawyer to sue the hospital. Same "catholic" hospital reported to the local media they currently had 116 Covid patients on a ventilator iand she says they have had 2 covid cases in the last week, who were outpatient. She says they've only had a handful of cases for months here in central IL. So there's entirely conflicting CREDIBLE info coming from many frontline sources. If the doctors and nurses in my area are saying don't worry about covid then I'm not going to worry. We're not near a big city or anything like some, where I'm sure cases are worse.

And again, I just had it and still have an occasional cough 5 weeks later since the start, I still wouldn't get the vaccine. I was never even sick, just a cough. My sinus infection I get after putting up hay every eyar and during harvest is 100x worse. And of the 20+ people I know who have had it, have been fine as well. My grandparents good friend in his late 80s with stage 4 lung cancer and one of those voice boxes in his throat has tested positive twice since this started and he's not once felt sick either time. He only knew bc he had to get tested before procedures. So for me, if he's fine I'm not worrying. Is it unfortunate that some healthy, young, etc people are having issues? Sure. But I also believe that it's on us, our health is nobodys problem but our own. If you don't want to be vaccinated don't get vaccinated, if you do then go get it.

The problem lies in requiring it, and if we're going to require one then all vaccines need to become required. Or I guess not the flu, since its been exterminated and no longer exists. Would be pointless to get that one now. And if vaccines are going to be required then we really should start requiring people to publicly disclose any other communicable diseases as well. And any medical issues resulting from vaccine, which there are A LOT of cases, should be 100% free of charge. I have a $5,000 deductible and would lose my job and my house & horses if I were to have an issue from the vaccine. So its not always just becasue you're not interested or scared of the vaccine, some cant afford to take the risk of getting it. And people shouldn't be mad about it. Vaccinated people are the bigger threat to society right now, common sense and science both tell you that,  but everyone seems to have that backwards. You can still get deathly sick, you can still die...vaccinated or not 

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