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Location: Oklahoma | I am probably going to have my gelding's stifle joint internally blistered. Can anyone who has had this done give me an idea of the cost involved with this type of procedure, maintenance afterward, etc. Thanks! |
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Location: Holland, Tx | I had both hips done last year on my good horse and it only cost me $90. There was IMMEDIATE visible evidence of relief. I rode him the following day. Don't know with stifles, but with hips its such a long needle he said riding would help relieve the stiffness/soreness. It wasn't strenuous riding though, just exercise. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Thanks, lady, that helps! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I had both hips internally blistered on one of my horses, along with accupuncture and chiro. Total cost of the session was $150, which I felt was very reasonable. I had excellent results--he was done twice and hasn't been sore in his rear end since the second one over a year ago. I was also told to ride lightly the next day and give him a few days before I ran him. |
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Location: I'm lost - please tell me, I'm not on BHW again!!! | I have stifles blistered on my good gelding about once every 5 months, and it's $40 here in AZ. |
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Location: san antonio texas | Abby where did you get your horse done at?? |
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Location: Oklahoma | Hey thanks, you guys! I have been riding him uphill, in deep sand, etc. doing all the joint supplement stuff and trying to decide which way to go as far as splitting the ligaments and decided against the clipping procedure pretty much. Going to try the blistering tomorrow. Thanks again! |
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| OK, help me out here...........can you explain why you do an internal blister on anything and how does it work? I've been told I might want to try it on my mare's stifle, but it wasn't really explained and I'm leary. What's it all about? |
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Location: Holland, Tx | Originally written by carlos on 2004-03-31 11:56 AM
Abby where did you get your horse done at?? Dr. Baker near Waller. He does my acupuncture work for me and suggested it. |
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Location: North Dakota | I would like to know some more on this topic because I was just told last night my mare should get her stifle ligaments clipped. |
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Location: Oklahoma | This will be the first time I've had an internal blistering done, so I will probably be able to tell you more about it tomorrow after it's done. My horse has alot of popping noise that comes and goes, and lately it has been affecting his performance in his runs (or lopes, I should say since he is still in the training stages). If you have a good vet close by that has alot of experience with joints/legs you should discuss it with them. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I sure wouldn't EVER get the stifles clipped....I traded for a horse that was 8 and had had his clipped during his futurity year (I didn't know this before I traded and the people sure didn't tell me about it) and he was completely crippled as far as barrels went....you could only pleasure ride him. When I tried him before the trade, I only slow worked him and he did fine. When I got him home and tried to RUN him, he nearly went down on every barrel....scared me to death!!!! I took him to a reputable vet and he told me that once the stifles are clipped, the horse can't pull his legs up under him as well and as long as he's in good shape, usually the other muscles can take over, but if you ever let them get out of top shape (my gelding had been turned out a year), they never come back....I took a huge loss and sold him for a trail horse....so if someone is telling you to clip them, I would FOR SURE get a second opinion! |
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Location: Oklahoma | Yeah, I've heard a lot of horror stories about clipping stifles, too. Now, the splitting the ligament is a totally different procedure and I think it has been pretty promising so far. I just didn't want to do anything that radical just yet, which is why I'm going with the internal blistering right now. |
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Location: TX | What are the signs that your horse is sore in the hips? Also, what vet did the procedure? Thanks for more information on this. |
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Location: san antonio texas | Thank you Abby. Also what is this supposed to do? I've never heard of it. |
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Location: Holland, Tx | Its been a long time (Oct actually) but I think if I remember well, its like a pain relief similar to joint injections, just not as invasive. I try hard to avoid injecting joints, especially on young horses (my horse was 6 at the time) and Dr. Baker advises the same thing. I'm sure if you called him (936-857-3207) he could explain a lot more than I could. One thing I can say is that before he did my horse, if he pressed on any acupressure points associated with the hips, my horse would practically lay down he was so sore and within minutes of the blistering, it was GONE!!! With typical joint injections, you don't see results this fast. I really liked knowing when I left the clinic that we had done something good for my horse. I would almost be willing to bet that most vets are capable of doing this (especially the major hospitals). I am going to Elgin tomorrow and can ask Dr. Lewis if anyone wants me to. |
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Location: North Dakota | I heard a lot of great stuff on stifle splitting and I think that is what we are leaning towards if something that drastic needs to be done. My dad talked to the vet today just over the phone and told him about this mare and the vet said I should keep working her and not worry about it just yet because he doesn't want to start cutting or anything if it isn't bothering her when she moves or how she performs. We are going to talk to another vet about it soon just to get a second oppinion to make sure. I am going to start her on some good rear end exercises. What are some exercises that do the same thing as hill work but with out the hills...lol it's pretty flat here. Also do you think maybe some kind of liniment would help tighten up her ligaments? P.S.>I just thought that I should clarify that it was my farrier that told me about her being loose in the stifle just so you all know it wasn't an actual vet but I trust my farrier and I think he hit the nail on the head with this horse I just never noticed it before or didn't really know that was a probablem I just thought it was the way she walked(she kind of puts that foot down a little harder and doesn't seem to reach up all the way with it when being turned in a circle but other than that she acts fine with it). |
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Location: Oklahoma | Had my colt's stifles internally blistered yesterday, just wanted to report back. When I gave the vet the symptoms of popping noise, not wanting to use his rear end, stiffening up on the outside of his lefthand barrel turns, the vet was skeptical and said that could be young age or training problems (which I was aware of). He had us trot him in hand on hard ground which showed nothing, and there was only a very quiet popping noise. He did tell us that the popping is almost always coming from the stifle joint, though. He then squeezed his left stifle and my colt stood there calmy. He moved around to the right stifle and as soon and he started to examine it (it was not really a squeeze, can't describe it exactly), my colt jumped nearly out of his skin. So I guess that was a definite positive. He put the infrared scanner on his hocks and said they were fine. Injected both stifle joints just by using a twitch on him (he has a very calm disposition, BTW). He told me to lightly exercise him in a couple of days, and he may be stiff in the rear end at first, then I can go back to working/running him in 10 days! He also said it was an intermittent upward fixation of the patellar ligament, or a very early case of the stifle catching, but not locking up totally, and that this will probably be all we will have to do to it. I am so happy. We will see how he does now. The total cost was $105. Hope this will give some of you some more info for your horses you are wondering about. |
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Location: Holland, Tx | Originally written by Just Bring It on 2004-04-01 11:35 PM I heard a lot of great stuff on stifle splitting and I think that is what we are leaning towards if something that drastic needs to be done. My dad talked to the vet today just over the phone and told him about this mare and the vet said I should keep working her and not worry about it just yet because he doesn't want to start cutting or anything if it isn't bothering her when she moves or how she performs. We are going to talk to another vet about it soon just to get a second oppinion to make sure. I am going to start her on some good rear end exercises. What are some exercises that do the same thing as hill work but with out the hills...lol it's pretty flat here. Also do you think maybe some kind of liniment would help tighten up her ligaments? P.S.>I just thought that I should clarify that it was my farrier that told me about her being loose in the stifle just so you all know it wasn't an actual vet but I trust my farrier and I think he hit the nail on the head with this horse I just never noticed it before or didn't really know that was a probablem I just thought it was the way she walked(she kind of puts that foot down a little harder and doesn't seem to reach up all the way with it when being turned in a circle but other than that she acts fine with it). For those who have horse's who seem to be quite sore in the rear....make sure there's nothing they are having to compensate from in the front. My horse was a mess in the rear, didn't show to be sore anywhere in the front through his acupuncture exam (testing for locations of soreness) and it turned out that he actually had 2 bowed tendons in the front that a vet had missed. |
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| Originally written by shaunar on 2004-04-02 6:45 AM
Had my colt's stifles internally blistered yesterday, just wanted to report back. When I gave the vet the symptoms of popping noise, not wanting to use his rear end, stiffening up on the outside of his lefthand barrel turns, the vet was skeptical and said that could be young age or training problems (which I was aware of). He had us trot him in hand on hard ground which showed nothing, and there was only a very quiet popping noise. He did tell us that the popping is almost always coming from the stifle joint, though. He then squeezed his left stifle and my colt stood there calmy. He moved around to the right stifle and as soon and he started to examine it (it was not really a squeeze, can't describe it exactly), my colt jumped nearly out of his skin. So I guess that was a definite positive. He put the infrared scanner on his hocks and said they were fine. Injected both stifle joints just by using a twitch on him (he has a very calm disposition, BTW). He told me to lightly exercise him in a couple of days, and he may be stiff in the rear end at first, then I can go back to working/running him in 10 days! He also said it was an intermittent upward fixation of the patellar ligament, or a very early case of the stifle catching, but not locking up totally, and that this will probably be all we will have to do to it. I am so happy. We will see how he does now. The total cost was $105. Hope this will give some of you some more info for your horses you are wondering about. Do you mind me asking who you used ????? |
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